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Martha, it's their loss. I for one, prefer to have a "know-it-all RN with attitude" here as opposed to someone who's always telling you what you want to hear. I know I need a good kick in the a$$ once in a while. Heck, I could use one now... I've gained 2 pounds because I've been making poor choices food-wise and now been walking like I was. :( I still have 75 pounds to lose and it's going to be a tough 75. I'm probably going to have a bruised butt at the end of this part of the journey. So still around here.... I'll be need to hear the way it IS, and not how I want it to be.

Thanks for being a know-it-all RN!!!

Ron

OSSG list sucks

After some differences in attitude and philosophy, I'm bailing out ofthe OSSG list. I know you're asking: Martha, What did you say/do thistime!? Hahahaha...Well, some gal wrote that her labs were outta wackand she wasn't losing weight and oh by the way, she wasn't eatingright either. She posted her labs in the email, with the normalreference ranges, and her results were all normal! She got a handfulof emails telling her to take more iron, more calcium, etc. etc...so Iwrote saying that her labs were all within normal limits and thatmaybe just MAYBE the real problem was that she wasn't eating right (asshe had mentioned). I explained the program that I was taught at KSSFmaking sure to say that this was just what worked for me, and not nec.for everyone. Someone wrote back that I hadn't included proteinshakes. So then I wrote back saying that I didn't drink them because Iwas told not to unless I was sick or couldn't get enough protein andthat sometimes people can live without them...I also said I'd observedthat people on that list had a lot of high-calorie recipes for proteinshakes that sounded like milkshake fixes to me. WELL. You can'timagine the hostile emails I got! Meanwhile the list conversation wasabout (a) cute kitties, (B) how much extra food people were eatinggiggle giggle, © being alone, and (d) recipes for sugar-free pumpkinpie, fudge, and other crap. Apparently they don't need a know-it-allRN with attitude. So, to quote Pam Marsh, F--k 'em! HahahaMartha

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I read on that list and it's quite ... unique (to put it nicely).

Their loss! We all need someone to tell us like it is without

beating around the bush or trying to put it " nicely " . Thank you!

Tina

>

> After some differences in attitude and philosophy, I'm bailing out

of

> the OSSG list. I know you're asking: Martha, What did you say/do

this

> time!? Hahahaha...Well, some gal wrote that her labs were outta

wack

> and she wasn't losing weight and oh by the way, she wasn't eating

> right either. She posted her labs in the email, with the normal

> reference ranges, and her results were all normal! She got a

handful

> of emails telling her to take more iron, more calcium, etc.

etc...so I

> wrote saying that her labs were all within normal limits and that

> maybe just MAYBE the real problem was that she wasn't eating right

(as

> she had mentioned). I explained the program that I was taught at

KSSF

> making sure to say that this was just what worked for me, and not

nec.

> for everyone. Someone wrote back that I hadn't included protein

> shakes. So then I wrote back saying that I didn't drink them

because I

> was told not to unless I was sick or couldn't get enough protein

and

> that sometimes people can live without them...I also said I'd

observed

> that people on that list had a lot of high-calorie recipes for

protein

> shakes that sounded like milkshake fixes to me. WELL. You can't

> imagine the hostile emails I got! Meanwhile the list conversation

was

> about (a) cute kitties, (B) how much extra food people were eating

> giggle giggle, © being alone, and (d) recipes for sugar-free

pumpkin

> pie, fudge, and other crap. Apparently they don't need a know-it-

all

> RN with attitude. So, to quote Pam Marsh, F--k 'em! Hahaha

> Martha

>

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You know I joined that group and posted once and never posted again!

I'm sure there are some nice folks on that list,but I just don't

have the time. Stay here Martha were you can speake your mind! :)

>

> After some differences in attitude and philosophy, I'm bailing out

of

> the OSSG list. I know you're asking: Martha, What did you say/do

this

> time!? Hahahaha...Well, some gal wrote that her labs were outta

wack

> and she wasn't losing weight and oh by the way, she wasn't eating

> right either. She posted her labs in the email, with the normal

> reference ranges, and her results were all normal! She got a

handful

> of emails telling her to take more iron, more calcium, etc.

etc...so I

> wrote saying that her labs were all within normal limits and that

> maybe just MAYBE the real problem was that she wasn't eating right

(as

> she had mentioned). I explained the program that I was taught at

KSSF

> making sure to say that this was just what worked for me, and not

nec.

> for everyone. Someone wrote back that I hadn't included protein

> shakes. So then I wrote back saying that I didn't drink them

because I

> was told not to unless I was sick or couldn't get enough protein

and

> that sometimes people can live without them...I also said I'd

observed

> that people on that list had a lot of high-calorie recipes for

protein

> shakes that sounded like milkshake fixes to me. WELL. You can't

> imagine the hostile emails I got! Meanwhile the list conversation

was

> about (a) cute kitties, (B) how much extra food people were eating

> giggle giggle, © being alone, and (d) recipes for sugar-free

pumpkin

> pie, fudge, and other crap. Apparently they don't need a know-it-

all

> RN with attitude. So, to quote Pam Marsh, F--k 'em! Hahaha

> Martha

>

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Ron....

Hang in there !! You CAN do this. keep your eyes on the prize and

that'll make things easier....

How are you doing on the cigarettes ?

Regards,

Gordy

>

> Martha, it's their loss. I for one, prefer to have a " know-it-all

RN with attitude " here as opposed to someone who's always telling you

what you want to hear. I know I need a good kick in the a$$ once in

a while. Heck, I could use one now... I've gained 2 pounds because

I've been making poor choices food-wise and now been walking like I

was. :( I still have 75 pounds to lose and it's going to be a tough

75. I'm probably going to have a bruised butt at the end of this

part of the journey. So still around here.... I'll be need to hear

the way it IS, and not how I want it to be.

>

> Thanks for being a know-it-all RN!!!

>

> Ron

> OSSG list sucks

>

>

> After some differences in attitude and philosophy, I'm bailing

out of

> the OSSG list. I know you're asking: Martha, What did you say/do

this

> time!? Hahahaha...Well, some gal wrote that her labs were outta

wack

> and she wasn't losing weight and oh by the way, she wasn't eating

> right either. She posted her labs in the email, with the normal

> reference ranges, and her results were all normal! She got a

handful

> of emails telling her to take more iron, more calcium, etc.

etc...so I

> wrote saying that her labs were all within normal limits and that

> maybe just MAYBE the real problem was that she wasn't eating

right (as

> she had mentioned). I explained the program that I was taught at

KSSF

> making sure to say that this was just what worked for me, and not

nec.

> for everyone. Someone wrote back that I hadn't included protein

> shakes. So then I wrote back saying that I didn't drink them

because I

> was told not to unless I was sick or couldn't get enough protein

and

> that sometimes people can live without them...I also said I'd

observed

> that people on that list had a lot of high-calorie recipes for

protein

> shakes that sounded like milkshake fixes to me. WELL. You can't

> imagine the hostile emails I got! Meanwhile the list conversation

was

> about (a) cute kitties, (B) how much extra food people were eating

> giggle giggle, © being alone, and (d) recipes for sugar-free

pumpkin

> pie, fudge, and other crap. Apparently they don't need a know-it-

all

> RN with attitude. So, to quote Pam Marsh, F--k 'em! Hahaha

> Martha

>

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Its hard when there is so much variance in programs and god forbid

you disagree with anyone else's. Its a shame. We are all here to

learn from each other and if we post something that isnt popular,

but is working...then we are chastized. SIGH! We are all just out to

help each other. Some programs are adememtly against shakes(Kaiser

Richmond where I went) is one. Some swear by them. No wonder we have

very confused posties, trying anything to stay on track.

Dont worry though Martha.....I love ya

>

> After some differences in attitude and philosophy, I'm bailing out

of

> the OSSG list. I know you're asking: Martha, What did you say/do

this

> time!? Hahahaha...Well, some gal wrote that her labs were outta

wack

> and she wasn't losing weight and oh by the way, she wasn't eating

> right either. She posted her labs in the email, with the normal

> reference ranges, and her results were all normal! She got a

handful

> of emails telling her to take more iron, more calcium, etc.

etc...so I

> wrote saying that her labs were all within normal limits and that

> maybe just MAYBE the real problem was that she wasn't eating right

(as

> she had mentioned). I explained the program that I was taught at

KSSF

> making sure to say that this was just what worked for me, and not

nec.

> for everyone. Someone wrote back that I hadn't included protein

> shakes. So then I wrote back saying that I didn't drink them

because I

> was told not to unless I was sick or couldn't get enough protein

and

> that sometimes people can live without them...I also said I'd

observed

> that people on that list had a lot of high-calorie recipes for

protein

> shakes that sounded like milkshake fixes to me. WELL. You can't

> imagine the hostile emails I got! Meanwhile the list conversation

was

> about (a) cute kitties, (B) how much extra food people were eating

> giggle giggle, © being alone, and (d) recipes for sugar-free

pumpkin

> pie, fudge, and other crap. Apparently they don't need a know-it-

all

> RN with attitude. So, to quote Pam Marsh, F--k 'em! Hahaha

> Martha

>

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Thanks Gordy. After my morning weigh-in (and subsequent knowledge of weight gain) I was able to strengthen my resolve. I walked part way to work today and kept the food to a good minimum. It's good to get a wake-up call once in a while. So, until I falter again (and I'm certain I will), I have a plan to put in motion... (motion being an operative word here) <g>. As for the cigs... it'll be 3 months on the 24th. My boss has seen me quit and restart many times during my tenure with him, so he told me that he'll take me to dinner once I make my 3 month mark. Too bad I'll have to be a cheap date... hehehehe

So how's your progress Gordy? Any decisions on the horizon? :)

Ron

OSSG list sucks> > > After some differences in attitude and philosophy, I'm bailing out of> the OSSG list. I know you're asking: Martha, What did you say/do this> time!? Hahahaha...Well, some gal wrote that her labs were outta wack> and she wasn't losing weight and oh by the way, she wasn't eating> right either. She posted her labs in the email, with the normal> reference ranges, and her results were all normal! She got a handful> of emails telling her to take more iron, more calcium, etc. etc...so I> wrote saying that her labs were all within normal limits and that> maybe just MAYBE the real problem was that she wasn't eating right (as> she had mentioned). I explained the program that I was taught at KSSF> making sure to say that this was just what worked for me, and not nec.> for everyone. Someone wrote back that I hadn't included protein> shakes. So then I wrote back saying that I didn't drink them because I> was told not to unless I was sick or couldn't get enough protein and> that sometimes people can live without them...I also said I'd observed> that people on that list had a lot of high-calorie recipes for protein> shakes that sounded like milkshake fixes to me. WELL. You can't> imagine the hostile emails I got! Meanwhile the list conversation was> about (a) cute kitties, (B) how much extra food people were eating> giggle giggle, © being alone, and (d) recipes for sugar-free pumpkin> pie, fudge, and other crap. Apparently they don't need a know-it-all> RN with attitude. So, to quote Pam Marsh, F--k 'em! Hahaha> Martha> > > > > >

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I hung out there for awhile...it was rather tedious. Too many posts

about trivial stuff. There were the occasional worthy nuggets of

wisdom, and I liked one of their moderators (gayle), but wading

through all the chaff was not worth the wheat.

Keep hanging out here Martha, I appreciate our " delicate flower " ; )

>

> After some differences in attitude and philosophy, I'm bailing out

of

> the OSSG list. I know you're asking: Martha, What did you say/do

this

> time!? Hahahaha...Well, some gal wrote that her labs were outta

wack

> and she wasn't losing weight and oh by the way, she wasn't eating

> right either. She posted her labs in the email, with the normal

> reference ranges, and her results were all normal! She got a

handful

> of emails telling her to take more iron, more calcium, etc.

etc...so I

> wrote saying that her labs were all within normal limits and that

> maybe just MAYBE the real problem was that she wasn't eating right

(as

> she had mentioned). I explained the program that I was taught at

KSSF

> making sure to say that this was just what worked for me, and not

nec.

> for everyone. Someone wrote back that I hadn't included protein

> shakes. So then I wrote back saying that I didn't drink them

because I

> was told not to unless I was sick or couldn't get enough protein

and

> that sometimes people can live without them...I also said I'd

observed

> that people on that list had a lot of high-calorie recipes for

protein

> shakes that sounded like milkshake fixes to me. WELL. You can't

> imagine the hostile emails I got! Meanwhile the list conversation

was

> about (a) cute kitties, (B) how much extra food people were eating

> giggle giggle, © being alone, and (d) recipes for sugar-free

pumpkin

> pie, fudge, and other crap. Apparently they don't need a know-it-

all

> RN with attitude. So, to quote Pam Marsh, F--k 'em! Hahaha

> Martha

>

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