Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I'm not quoting either of your messages, since I'm trying to respond to both of you in one message. And like , I want to make it clear that I'm pre-op, so you'll know where I fit in this journey. I'm also a librarian and do research for a living, so my natural inclination when I see something like this is to go search for more information. Here's what I found out: One of the studies that came out in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. on Monday was a survey of Medicare patients who have had WLS. That one reported a much higher risk of death than most previous studies. A different study, with over 60,000 California patients (avg. age 42) found that people who had WLS were twice as likely to be admitted to the hospital during the year after surgery. However, the post-surgical death rate reported in that study was MUCH lower than the Medicare study (tho' still somewhat higher than the most optimistic figures that you find on results, which generally say 0.5% mortality for the first year). So what does it all mean? Well, first, remember that a study done of Medicare patients is probably going to include a much higher percentage of people who are poorer, older, and sicker to start with. . . the very people who have the worst chances of coming through surgery successfully in the first place. On top of that, as several people have pointed out, the risk goes up a LOT if your surgeon hasn't done enough of these operations. I don't have figures on the Drs. at the various Kaiser centers, but it sounds to me as if they're all well over the number needed to put them into the " superstar " category. (None of them are the type of doctor who's learned how to do a R-en-Y in a weekend seminar and then come back to operate!) Then you also have to consider the risks of having surgery against the risks of NOT having surgery. If you're over 65 WLS is riskier. But if you have something like diabetes, and you're over 65, you also face a huge risk of dying. In fact, obesity at the level we're all at put us at 50-100% greater risk of dying from ALL CAUSES. If you're a woman with a BMI of 40 or more, you have a 62% higher rate of death from CANCER than if you were normal weight! http://win.niddk.nih.gov/statistics/index.htm#other> Yes, it's a relatively high-risk surgery. But all of us pre-ops are living relatively high-risk lives just by being the weights we are. It's a matter of choosing which risks you're willing to take. I'll be honest - I'm scared of surgery. But over the past several years I've come to realize that I'm more scared of being totally disabled or dying of something that I could have done something to avoid. My dad died at 63, officially of cancer - but he was diabetic, had a bad heart, and had had a stroke. He wasn't as overweight as I am by a long shot (although he did smoke like a chimney). I want to be around to play with my kids' children someday. Cathy C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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