Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Hey Holly, Absolutely, some people go through fatigue in the begining and can experience body aches that is why some have to be careful not to push too much and go on the dosage to fast. Why don't you share your exact LDN increase schedule with us? Also, are you using the cream? Have you joined the LDN group? Jodi > > > > Hi Holly, > > What do you mean by feeling like crap? Did you stop the Effexor cold turkey? That will make you feel like crap. The best was is to cut the dose down slowly and gradually over weeks-months. If you did have to stop, this would explain your symptoms, and not be due to LDN. > > > > Someone has to be on call for the doctor- if not, there is the ER- to give you a prescription until your doc gets back. It is really best not to stop cold turkey. I hope you can get a hold of some as you will feel better if you don't stop this way. > > > > PJ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I went from 3 mg to 4.5 mg cream and I have had more sleep issues and crazy dreams at 4.5 mg. I feel fine during the day. Is the sleep issue temporary or should I go slower? I've been on 4.5 mg for a month now (cream) so I'm thinking just hang in there at this point. PJ > > > > > > Hi Holly, > > > What do you mean by feeling like crap? Did you stop the Effexor cold turkey? That will make you feel like crap. The best was is to cut the dose down slowly and gradually over weeks-months. If you did have to stop, this would explain your symptoms, and not be due to LDN. > > > > > > Someone has to be on call for the doctor- if not, there is the ER- to give you a prescription until your doc gets back. It is really best not to stop cold turkey. I hope you can get a hold of some as you will feel better if you don't stop this way. > > > > > > PJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 PJ- I had the same thing.. Just hang there a bit like a couple of weeks if you can (even a bit more) You can always lower the dosage.. But I found it amazing what 4.5 did for my bowel. Do you drink coffee? Get rid of the coffee. Helps while on LDN. Bummer I know but a good nights sleep is way better. Play with the times you consume caffeine or anything stimulating. Jodi > > > > > > > > Hi Holly, > > > > What do you mean by feeling like crap? Did you stop the Effexor cold turkey? That will make you feel like crap. The best was is to cut the dose down slowly and gradually over weeks-months. If you did have to stop, this would explain your symptoms, and not be due to LDN. > > > > > > > > Someone has to be on call for the doctor- if not, there is the ER- to give you a prescription until your doc gets back. It is really best not to stop cold turkey. I hope you can get a hold of some as you will feel better if you don't stop this way. > > > > > > > > PJ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I have noticed a big difference at this dose of LDN. The sleep issue is more annoying than anything else. I wake up but go back to sleep. I don't drink coffee but did add some black/green tea lately. I will cut them out. Thanks, PJ > > > > > > > > > > Hi Holly, > > > > > What do you mean by feeling like crap? Did you stop the Effexor cold turkey? That will make you feel like crap. The best was is to cut the dose down slowly and gradually over weeks-months. If you did have to stop, this would explain your symptoms, and not be due to LDN. > > > > > > > > > > Someone has to be on call for the doctor- if not, there is the ER- to give you a prescription until your doc gets back. It is really best not to stop cold turkey. I hope you can get a hold of some as you will feel better if you don't stop this way. > > > > > > > > > > PJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 You can go back down to 4.0 on LDN and see if that works better for you. Mara > I have noticed a big difference at this dose of LDN. The sleep issue is more annoying than anything else. I wake up but go back to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I went from 3 mg to 4.5 mg cream and I have had more sleep issues and crazy dreams at 4.5 mg. I feel fine during the day. Is the sleep issue temporary or should I go slower? I've been on 4.5 mg for a month now (cream) so I'm thinking just hang in there at this point. PJ Holly, I started LDN at 1.0. Had sleep issues for a week, was a zombie. Then that suddenly was fine. I am sleeping better, and more aware of more dreams (not lurid, just more). After a month or so I increased to 1.5 with no trouble. Another month and I tried to increase to 2.0 and whammo, even increasing by 0.125 at a time for a few days each, I couldn't hack it. I'm back to 1.5 and am going to address possible candida issues now before I increase again. Even on this low dose I have definite improvements! I figure what's the hurry, why have something else (like lack of sleep) to fight when low and slow works, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:05:37 -0500, My-Stitches My-Stitches@...> wrote: > I went from 3 mg to 4.5 mg cream and I have had more sleep issues and > crazy dreams at 4.5 mg. I feel fine during the day. Is the sleep > issue temporary or should I go slower? I've been on 4.5 mg for a > month now (cream) so I'm thinking just hang in there at this point. > > PJ For several months when I started LDN (went from 3.5 to 4.5 mg in about two weeks) I would wake up at about 2 or 3 a.m. when the opioid blockade wore off and my endorphins kicked in and I would be awake often for several hours. That was difficult while it lasted, but it gradually subsided. I've now been on LDN almost a year. But a few months ago I cut back to 4 mg instead of 4.5 because it works better for me, actually (after adjusting to the change), and I think my liver functions better on 4 mg. n > > Holly, I started LDN at 1.0. Had sleep issues for a week, was a > zombie. Then that suddenly was fine. I am sleeping better, and more > aware of more dreams (not lurid, just more). After a month or so I > increased to 1.5 with no trouble. Another month and I tried to > increase to 2.0 and whammo, even increasing by 0.125 at a time for a > few days each, I couldn't hack it. I'm back to 1.5 and am going to > address possible candida issues now before I increase again. Even on > this low dose I have definite improvements! I figure what's the > hurry, why have something else (like lack of sleep) to fight when low > and slow works, too. > > > -- Now available. A fine Christmas gift for cat lovers: Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction by n Van Til www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere; free gift wrapping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 My LDN increase went thusly: Dec 27: 1.5 mg 28: 2 mg 30: 2.5 mg Jan 1: 3 mg 2: 3.5 mg 3: 4 mg I went quickly since I didn't suffer any insomnia or pains (other then a headache on the back left side of my skull, but that's been going on for a couple of months). I've always had wild dreams, and don't think they're any different with LDN. The only side effect is this big time fatigue! I hope it's short lived. I can't wait for the endorphins to hit :-) Oh, and I mix up my own LDN. I couldn't get anyone to prescribe it, so ordered the 50 mg pills from India. Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > Hey Holly, > > Absolutely, some people go through fatigue in the begining and can experience body aches that is why some have to be careful not to push too much and go on the dosage to fast. > > Why don't you share your exact LDN increase schedule with us? > Also, are you using the cream? > > Have you joined the LDN group? > > Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 > My LDN increase went thusly: > > Dec 27: 1.5 mg > 28: 2 mg > 30: 2.5 mg > Jan 1: 3 mg > 2: 3.5 mg > 3: 4 mg Holly, at your weight,you should not increase dosage and maybe consider going back down to 3.5 or 3. Don't you weigh like 105 or something. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 I weigh somewhere between 100 and 105 (it's been awhile since I stepped on a scale). I dropped back down to 3.5 mg last night. We'll see if that helps the fatigue. The only other odd thing that's happened since starting LDN is a ruptured blood vessel in my eye. I've never had anything like that happen before. My mom noticed it when I got up this morning. Thankfully, most of it is hidden by my eyelid. Otherwise I would look hideous! For the other LDNers, how long did it take before you felt an energy kick? Thanks everyone! Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > Holly, > > at your weight,you should not increase dosage and maybe consider > going back down to 3.5 or 3. > > Don't you weigh like 105 or something. > > Mara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 This happened to me too. I just got over a ruptured blood vessel in my eye last week. I looked like enstein. It healed quickly thankfully. I wonder if this is a side effect but I have not seen this. I am sleeping better on 3.6 mg. PJ > > I weigh somewhere between 100 and 105 (it's been awhile since I stepped on a scale). > > I dropped back down to 3.5 mg last night. We'll see if that helps the fatigue. The only other odd thing that's happened since starting LDN is a ruptured blood vessel in my eye. I've never had anything like that happen before. My mom noticed it when I got up this morning. Thankfully, most of it is hidden by my eyelid. Otherwise I would look hideous! > > For the other LDNers, how long did it take before you felt an energy kick? > > Thanks everyone! > > Holly > Crohn's > SCD 12/01/08 > > > > Holly, > > > > at your weight,you should not increase dosage and maybe consider > > going back down to 3.5 or 3. > > > > Don't you weigh like 105 or something. > > > > Mara > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Well that's a freaky little coincedence! Glad to hear it goes away quickly, because it is UGLY! Glad to hear you're doing better! I'm still suffering awful fatigue (I slept 16 hours yesterday). I dropped down to 3 mg to see if that helps wake me up. Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > > This happened to me too. I just got over a ruptured blood vessel in my eye last week. I looked like enstein. It healed quickly thankfully. > > I wonder if this is a side effect but I have not seen this. > > I am sleeping better on 3.6 mg. > > PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Holly, If I were you, I would go on the yahoo LDN list and mention your fatigue and what you are doing and ask there if anyone has suggestions. There are some very knowledgeable people there with longer experience. Mara > Well that's a freaky little coincedence! Glad to hear it goes away quickly, because it is UGLY! > > Glad to hear you're doing better! I'm still suffering awful fatigue (I slept 16 hours yesterday). I dropped down to 3 mg to see if that helps wake me up. > > Holly > Crohn's > SCD 12/01/08 > > >> >> >> This happened to me too. I just got over a ruptured blood vessel in my eye last week. I looked like enstein. It healed quickly thankfully. >> >> I wonder if this is a side effect but I have not seen this. >> >> I am sleeping better on 3.6 mg. >> >> PJ > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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