Intro Diet - A Few Questions - Lengthy

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Hi everyone,

I am a new member of the group. So far, the posts that I have read have already

been very helpful. Thank you all. Some background info on me: I was diagnosed

with Crohn's 6 years ago. I had one terrible year of antibiotics, prednisone,

and anti-inflammatory drugs. I stopped the drugs and stopped eating wheat,

yeast, and dairy for about one year. I went back on the dairy and simply limited

my bread/pasta intake after that. I was in remission up until this past October.

I am still flared up now with pain, gas, and a delightful abcess (new symptom to

me). I am planning on starting the SCD tomorrow and I have a few questions. I

apologize for the length of the post.

1. I have never experienced diarrhea as a symptom of Crohn's. I have had

distension, pain, mucous/blood, nausea, dizziness, B12 deficiency, but no

diarrhea. In BTVC, many of the foods that can be added after the intro diet are

only to be added " after diarrhea and cramping subside " . There are constant

mentions of diarrhea throughout the book (and every other CD resource). Since I

don't have diarrhea, I feel like I could introduce a lot more food after the

initial intro period (which I plan to do for two days). Is anyone else out there

in the same boat?

2. Do I need to eat everything on the intro diet? I made yogurt, and bought

ingredients for chicken soup and gelatin, but I don't understand why I would

need to eat DCCC and make Cheesecake to eat during the intro period. I assume

it's just to add something tasty for anyone on the intro diet for more than a

couple days (I had planned to do the intro diet for only 2 days). I just want to

make sure it's okay to nix a couple things. Has anyone out there done the intro

diet this way?

3. I cannot find Dry Curd Cottage Cheese anywhere I have looked so far. I went

to Whole Foods (in NYC) and that location did not carry it. There were calls

made to other locations in Manhattan and no Whole Foods carries it. I also

checked two Food Coops and a Farmer's Market. No luck! I am going to call around

tomorrow to locate some. I refuse to believe it's not available in NY. I intend

to find a place to order it online, but is there anyone in NYC who has a source?

Thanks in advance for any help!

AP

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> Hi everyone,>> I am a new member of the group. So far, the posts that I have read have > already been very helpful. Thank you all. Some background info on me: I > was diagnosed with Crohn's 6 years ago. I had one terrible year of > antibiotics, prednisone, and anti-inflammatory drugs. I stopped the > drugs and stopped eating wheat, yeast, and dairy for about one year. I > went back on the dairy and simply limited my bread/pasta intake after > that. I was in remission up until this past October. I am still flared > up now with pain, gas, and a delightful abcess (new symptom to me). I am > planning on starting the SCD tomorrow and I have a few questions. I > apologize for the length of the post.>> 1. I have never experienced diarrhea as a symptom of Crohn's. I have had > distension, pain, mucous/blood, nausea, dizziness, B12 deficiency, but > no diarrhea. In BTVC, many of the foods that can be added after the > intro diet are only to be added "after diarrhea and cramping subside". > There are constant mentions of diarrhea throughout the book (and every > other CD resource). Since I don't have diarrhea, I feel like I could > introduce a lot more food after the initial intro period (which I plan > to do for two days). Is anyone else out there in the same boat?>> 2. Do I need to eat everything on the intro diet? I made yogurt, and > bought ingredients for chicken soup and gelatin, but I don't understand > why I would need to eat DCCC and make Cheesecake to eat during the intro > period. I assume it's just to add something tasty for anyone on the > intro diet for more than a couple days (I had planned to do the intro > diet for only 2 days). I just want to make sure it's okay to nix a > couple things. Has anyone out there done the intro diet this way?>> 3. I cannot find Dry Curd Cottage Cheese anywhere I have looked so far. > I went to Whole Foods (in NYC) and that location did not carry it. > There were calls made to other locations in Manhattan and no Whole Foods > carries it. I also checked two Food Coops and a Farmer's Market. No > luck! I am going to call around tomorrow to locate some. I refuse to > believe it's not available in NY. I intend to find a place to order it > online, but is there anyone in NYC who has a source?>> Thanks in advance for any help!>> APHI ,I've had Crohn's for 30 years. Diarrhea definitely has been one of my symptoms -- and all the other symptoms you mention.But to answer your question about eating everything on the intro diet. No, you don't need to. I tried the cheesecake and really disliked it. My husband ate most of it. I still have mixed feelings about the DCCC, though in some recipes I like it!Just introduce foods at your own pace. If you're bored with what you're eating, add something; if it works all right, add something else. The additions depend entirely on how you react to them. Jodi lives in NYC, I think. I think she's still here. There may be a few others. As you say, I can't believe DCCC isn't available there somewhere when it's available so many other places -- including out here in the boonies in the western end of the state. :-)n-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere

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> Hi everyone,

>

> I am a new member of the group. So far, the posts that I have read have

already been very helpful. Thank you all. Some background info on me: I was

diagnosed with Crohn's 6 years ago. I had one terrible year of antibiotics,

prednisone, and anti-inflammatory drugs. I stopped the drugs and stopped eating

wheat, yeast, and dairy for about one year. I went back on the dairy and simply

limited my bread/pasta intake after that. I was in remission up until this past

October. I am still flared up now with pain, gas, and a delightful abcess (new

symptom to me). I am planning on starting the SCD tomorrow and I have a few

questions. I apologize for the length of the post.

>

> 1. I have never experienced diarrhea as a symptom of Crohn's. I have had

distension, pain, mucous/blood, nausea, dizziness, B12 deficiency, but no

diarrhea. In BTVC, many of the foods that can be added after the intro diet are

only to be added " after diarrhea and cramping subside " . There are constant

mentions of diarrhea throughout the book (and every other CD resource). Since I

don't have diarrhea, I feel like I could introduce a lot more food after the

initial intro period (which I plan to do for two days). Is anyone else out there

in the same boat?

Plenty of people, but the point is not to rush. You introduce things slowly so

if you do develop symptoms at a

certain point, you know precisely what caused the reaction.

>

> 2. Do I need to eat everything on the intro diet?

No.

> I made yogurt, and bought ingredients for chicken soup and gelatin, but I

don't understand why I would need to eat DCCC and make Cheesecake to eat during

the intro period. I assume it's just to add something tasty for anyone on the

intro diet for more than a couple days (I had planned to do the intro diet for

only 2 days). I just want to make sure it's okay to nix a couple things. Has

anyone out there done the intro diet this way?

>

> 3. I cannot find Dry Curd Cottage Cheese anywhere I have looked so far.

It's called Friendship farmer's cheese.

They have it at Fairway, and probably every other supermarket besides WFs

(though not trader joes).

It's in a white rectangular package with blue lettering.

It's absolutely no problem to find it in NYC. Just not at a Food Coop and the

farmer's market.

Where do you live?

Mara, UWS.

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Hi!

Good Luck with the diet! I live right across the border in NJ and find DCCC everywhere. Check back at Whole Foods for Freinship Farmers Cheese. This is the brand name that my store carries. I highly doubt that a store in Montclair NJ would have it and not NYC. They may have just not known exactly what to look for. Also, it is usually by the cottage cheese/yogurt isle and not next to the cheeses so maybe they looked in the wrong place.

Hope this helps.

Re: Intro Diet - A Few Questions - Lengthy

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am a new member of the group. So far, the posts that I have read have

> already been very helpful. Thank you all. Some background info on me: I

> was diagnosed with Crohn's 6 years ago. I had one terrible year of

> antibiotics, prednisone, and anti-inflammatory drugs. I stopped the

> drugs and stopped eating wheat, yeast, and dairy for about one year. I

> went back on the dairy and simply limited my bread/pasta intake after

> that. I was in remission up until this past October. I am still flared

> up now with pain, gas, and a delightful abcess (new symptom to me). I am

> planning on starting the SCD tomorrow and I have a few questions. I

> apologize for the length of the post.

>

> 1. I have never experienced diarrhea as a symptom of Crohn's. I have had

> distension, pain, mucous/blood, nausea, dizziness, B12 deficiency, but

> no diarrhea. In BTVC, many of the foods that can be added after the

> intro diet are only to be added "after diarrhea and cramping subside".

> There are constant mentions of diarrhea throughout the book (and every

> other CD resource). Since I don't have diarrhea, I feel like I could

> introduce a lot more food after the initial intro period (which I plan

> to do for two days). Is anyone else out there in the same boat?

>

> 2. Do I need to eat everything on the intro diet? I made yogurt, and

> bought ingredients for chicken soup and gelatin, but I don't understand

> why I would need to eat DCCC and make Cheesecake to eat during the intro

> period. I assume it's just to add something tasty for anyone on the

> intro diet for more than a couple days (I had planned to do the intro

> diet for only 2 days). I just want to make sure it's okay to nix a

> couple things. Has anyone out there done the intro diet this way?

>

> 3. I cannot find Dry Curd Cottage Cheese anywhere I have looked so far.

> I went to Whole Foods (in NYC) and that location did not carry it.

> There were calls made to other locations in Manhattan and no Whole Foods

> carries it. I also checked two Food Coops and a Farmer's Market. No

> luck! I am going to call around tomorrow to locate some. I refuse to

> believe it's not available in NY. I intend to find a place to order it

> online, but is there anyone in NYC who has a source?

>

> Thanks in advance for any help!

>

> AP

HI ,

I've had Crohn's for 30 years. Diarrhea definitely has been one of my symptoms -- and all the other symptoms you mention.

But to answer your question about eating everything on the intro diet. No, you don't need to. I tried the cheesecake and really disliked it. My husband ate most of it. I still have mixed feelings about the DCCC, though in some recipes I like it!

Just introduce foods at your own pace. If you're bored with what you're eating, add something; if it works all right, add something else. The additions depend entirely on how you react to them.

Jodi lives in NYC, I think. I think she's still here. There may be a few others. As you say, I can't believe DCCC isn't available there somewhere when it's available so many other places -- including out here in the boonies in the western end of the state. :-)

n

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Please see my answers below

>

> 1. I have never experienced diarrhea as a symptom of Crohn's. I have had

distension, pain, mucous/blood, nausea, dizziness, B12 deficiency, but no

diarrhea. In BTVC, many of the foods that can be added after the intro diet are

only to be added " after diarrhea and cramping subside " . There are constant

mentions of diarrhea throughout the book (and every other CD resource). Since I

don't have diarrhea, I feel like I could introduce a lot more food after the

initial intro period (which I plan to do for two days). Is anyone else out there

in the same boat?

I also do not have CD with D. My symtpoms are pretty much like yours but with C

(constiption). I had to intro foods very slowly to make the

gas/pain/bloating/mucous subside. When I would eat someting too advanced the

symptoms came back immediately... sometimes as soon as it hit my stomach. I had

to take the diet very slowly to alleviate my symptoms. I still have bouts of C,

like right now, but I did eat an illegal a few weeks ago (bread pudding) and am

still recovering from that. Please do not introduce foods too fast. I almost

didn't do SCD when I first started it in Sept 07 (right after my diagnosis)

because I took it too fast and my symptoms actually got worse. Darned nut

flours.

> 2. Do I need to eat everything on the intro diet? I made yogurt, and bought

ingredients for chicken soup and gelatin, but I don't understand why I would

need to eat DCCC and make Cheesecake to eat during the intro period. I assume

it's just to add something tasty for anyone on the intro diet for more than a

couple days (I had planned to do the intro diet for only 2 days). I just want to

make sure it's okay to nix a couple things. Has anyone out there done the intro

diet this way?

I couldn't tolerate the cheesecake on intro. My intro was chicken soup, gelatin,

hard boiled eggs, scrambled eggs, hamburger patties and lots of colby jack

cheese. If I ate more than a teaspoon of yogurt, I had a lot of pain. I was

finally able to tolerate a teaspoon or so after a couple months on the diet. I'm

assuming that it caused major die off and until my bugs were under control I

couldn't eat it. When I was eating yogurt over the summer, I could tolerate the

recommended maximum of 3 cups a day. It took a long time to get there though.

> 3. I cannot find Dry Curd Cottage Cheese anywhere I have looked so far. I went

to Whole Foods (in NYC) and that location did not carry it. There were calls

made to other locations in Manhattan and no Whole Foods carries it. I also

checked two Food Coops and a Farmer's Market. No luck! I am going to call around

tomorrow to locate some. I refuse to believe it's not available in NY. I intend

to find a place to order it online, but is there anyone in NYC who has a source?

There are plenty of New Yorkers on the list that should be able to help.

Friendship Farmer's DCCC is a legal variety. If you can't find any, I think

they'll ship it to you. I didn't have DCCC for the first time until a couple

months ago when they finally opened a Fresh Market here in Baton Rouge. My Whole

Foods will not carry it. They don't even want to try to help... jerks.

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds... in a mini flare due to eating an illegal

SCD - 2 years

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There is a place online that you can order and have it shipped, I do it this way as there are no stores in my area that carry it. It freezes just fine. Here is the website:

http://prostores1.carrierzone.com/servlet/bluesealkielbasa_com/-strse-Cheese/Categories

To: BTVC-SCD From: heilh1@...Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 08:51:16 -0500Subject: Re: Intro Diet - A Few Questions - Lengthy

Hi!

Good Luck with the diet! I live right across the border in NJ and find DCCC everywhere. Check back at Whole Foods for Freinship Farmers Cheese. This is the brand name that my store carries. I highly doubt that a store in Montclair NJ would have it and not NYC. They may have just not known exactly what to look for. Also, it is usually by the cottage cheese/yogurt isle and not next to the cheeses so maybe they looked in the wrong place.

Hope this helps.

Re: Intro Diet - A Few Questions - Lengthy

On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:56:55 -0500, annapeterson84 <annapeterson84 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:> Hi everyone,>> I am a new member of the group. So far, the posts that I have read have > already been very helpful. Thank you all. Some background info on me: I > was diagnosed with Crohn's 6 years ago. I had one terrible year of > antibiotics, prednisone, and anti-inflammatory drugs. I stopped the > drugs and stopped eating wheat, yeast, and dairy for about one year. I > went back on the dairy and simply limited my bread/pasta intake after > that. I was in remission up until this past October. I am still flared > up now with pain, gas, and a delightful abcess (new symptom to me). I am > planning on starting the SCD tomorrow and I have a few questions. I > apologize for the length of the post.>> 1. I have never experienced diarrhea as a symptom of Crohn's. I have had > distension, pain, mucous/blood, nausea, dizziness, B12 deficiency, but > no diarrhea. In BTVC, many of the foods that can be added after the > intro diet are only to be added "after diarrhea and cramping subside". > There are constant mentions of diarrhea throughout the book (and every > other CD resource). Since I don't have diarrhea, I feel like I could > introduce a lot more food after the initial intro period (which I plan > to do for two days). Is anyone else out there in the same boat?>> 2. Do I need to eat everything on the intro diet? I made yogurt, and > bought ingredients for chicken soup and gelatin, but I don't understand > why I would need to eat DCCC and make Cheesecake to eat during the intro > period. I assume it's just to add something tasty for anyone on the > intro diet for more than a couple days (I had planned to do the intro > diet for only 2 days). I just want to make sure it's okay to nix a > couple things. Has anyone out there done the intro diet this way?>> 3. I cannot find Dry Curd Cottage Cheese anywhere I have looked so far. > I went to Whole Foods (in NYC) and that location did not carry it. > There were calls made to other locations in Manhattan and no Whole Foods > carries it. I also checked two Food Coops and a Farmer's Market. No > luck! I am going to call around tomorrow to locate some. I refuse to > believe it's not available in NY. I intend to find a place to order it > online, but is there anyone in NYC who has a source?>> Thanks in advance for any help!>> AP

HI ,

I've had Crohn's for 30 years. Diarrhea definitely has been one of my symptoms -- and all the other symptoms you mention.

But to answer your question about eating everything on the intro diet. No, you don't need to. I tried the cheesecake and really disliked it. My husband ate most of it. I still have mixed feelings about the DCCC, though in some recipes I like it!

Just introduce foods at your own pace. If you're bored with what you're eating, add something; if it works all right, add something else. The additions depend entirely on how you react to them.

Jodi lives in NYC, I think. I think she's still here. There may be a few others. As you say, I can't believe DCCC isn't available there somewhere when it's available so many other places -- including out here in the boonies in the western end of the state. :-)

n

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AP – I think Elaine just states that

the intro diet is a suggestion, so it can not hurt to start that way and slowly

introduce foods. Regarding, DCCC…double check with WF again, because I

had asked 2 different people at mine (Maine)

and they both said said they do not carry it. I was asking for “Dried

Curd Cottage Cheese”. But when I asked a 3rd person, and

mentioned “Farmer’s Cheese” and noted that WF seems to carry “Friendship”

brand in every other product – that rang a bell and THAT person brought

me to a different section of the store – forget what they call it ( but

it’s not where cottage cheese, yogurt, butter is) and there was the

Friendship Farmers Cheese! Good luck!

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BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of annapeterson84

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010

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To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Intro Diet - A Few Questions - Lengthy

Hi everyone,

I am a new member of the group. So far, the posts that I have read have already

been very helpful. Thank you all. Some background info on me: I was diagnosed

with Crohn's 6 years ago. I had one terrible year of antibiotics, prednisone,

and anti-inflammatory drugs. I stopped the drugs and stopped eating wheat,

yeast, and dairy for about one year. I went back on the dairy and simply

limited my bread/pasta intake after that. I was in remission up until this past

October. I am still flared up now with pain, gas, and a delightful abcess (new

symptom to me). I am planning on starting the SCD tomorrow and I have a few

questions. I apologize for the length of the post.

1. I have never experienced diarrhea as a symptom of Crohn's. I have had

distension, pain, mucous/blood, nausea, dizziness, B12 deficiency, but no

diarrhea. In BTVC, many of the foods that can be added after the intro diet are

only to be added " after diarrhea and cramping subside " . There are

constant mentions of diarrhea throughout the book (and every other CD

resource). Since I don't have diarrhea, I feel like I could introduce a lot

more food after the initial intro period (which I plan to do for two days). Is

anyone else out there in the same boat?

2. Do I need to eat everything on the intro diet? I made yogurt, and bought

ingredients for chicken soup and gelatin, but I don't understand why I would

need to eat DCCC and make Cheesecake to eat during the intro period. I assume

it's just to add something tasty for anyone on the intro diet for more than a

couple days (I had planned to do the intro diet for only 2 days). I just want

to make sure it's okay to nix a couple things. Has anyone out there done the

intro diet this way?

3. I cannot find Dry Curd Cottage Cheese anywhere I have looked so far. I went

to Whole Foods (in NYC) and that location did not carry it. There were calls

made to other locations in Manhattan

and no Whole Foods carries it. I also checked two Food Coops and a Farmer's

Market. No luck! I am going to call around tomorrow to locate some. I refuse to

believe it's not available in NY. I intend to find a place to order it online,

but is there anyone in NYC who has a source?

Thanks in advance for any help!

AP

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Hi , I live in Westchester, NY, up here I find DCCC at Stop n Shop and

another major food store (A&P ?). In the city I sometimes find it at Whole

Foods. Last weekend I got some at the Union Sq one by the feta. You'll have to

look around and read labels because anyone I've ever asked didn't know.

D'Agastino on University and 11th St. has always had it when I've been there, I

think that's by the yogurt/ cream cheese. Hope that helps!

Meaghan

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,In answer to your question #1, I have symptoms very much like you decribe, gas, abdominal pain, bloating, constipation © and occasional bleeding (. I have never been definitively diagnosed, either. I have IBD, that's all the diagnosis I've gotten from 3 different GIs, although I probably have a mild case of Crohn's.

You might be able to tolerate a wider range of foods after the intro diet, but keep a food diary and track your symptoms.  Everyone is different. After 16 months on the diet, I've found that I'm lactose and casein-intolerant, at least for now, and that a lot of my previous symptoms were related to that. I've definitely seen improvement on the diet, though. I think I'd be a lot worse off without it.

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