Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Running is known to cause flares in Crohn's patients... even doctors will tell you that. Not sure about UC though. Instead of running try walking instead.-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 5 pills a day To: BTVC-SCD From: devorahscd@...Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 23:41:03 -0800Subject: Re: Exercise yes - bigtime! DH used to be a runner. He stopped for a few years and when he started running again, that was the first time he had a really bad flare. So he stopped for a long time and felt better. Started running again and had the worst flare ever. I don't know if it's all exercise, or running in particular (that is a LOT of pressure on your body), but there is a definite connection for him (unfortunately). From: Gramenz <gramenz0919 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>To: SCD Diet <btvc-scd >Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 8:18:12 AMSubject: Exercise I have been feeling somewhat normal as of late and wanted to get back on my treadmill to hopefully drop ten pounds. I did some walking and added in some jogging. The next day my guts felt terrible! Loose stools and gassy. I am sure I have scar tissue so I am thinking this is the culprit. I go in for surgery in March for a complete hysterectomy and to remove scar tissue in the abdomen. But, I was wondering, has anyone noticed an increase in symptoms when they do vigorous exercise? Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Sigh. I guess I will have to stick to walking. I enjoyed a nice run though...ah well, I can lose the extra pounds bu walking further for longer maybe! I will try again tomorrow. To: BTVC-SCD From: devorahscd@...Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 23:41:03 -0800Subject: Re: Exercise yes - bigtime! DH used to be a runner. He stopped for a few years and when he started running again, that was the first time he had a really bad flare. So he stopped for a long time and felt better. Started running again and had the worst flare ever. I don't know if it's all exercise, or running in particular (that is a LOT of pressure on your body), but there is a definite connection for him (unfortunately). From: Gramenz <gramenz0919 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>To: SCD Diet <btvc-scd >Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 8:18:12 AMSubject: Exercise I have been feeling somewhat normal as of late and wanted to get back on my treadmill to hopefully drop ten pounds. I did some walking and added in some jogging. The next day my guts felt terrible! Loose stools and gassy. I am sure I have scar tissue so I am thinking this is the culprit. I go in for surgery in March for a complete hysterectomy and to remove scar tissue in the abdomen. But, I was wondering, has anyone noticed an increase in symptoms when they do vigorous exercise? Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Wow, I had never head this before. Seriously, doctors agree that running causes Crohn's flares? This concerns me, since I used to be a marathon runner and was starting to get back into running again. Interestingly I've always wondered if the marathon running was part of the triggering of my Crohn's. I wondered if the stress or marathon training combined with a few other factors contributed. Does anyone here still run? I'm slowly making my mileage back up, but I've always been concerned that it might cause a flare. I've been ok with lifting and other cardio so far, but running always seems the hardest on my body. I'd be interested to hear if there are any runners with Crohn's that seem to be ok. Amber > > > Running is known to cause flares in Crohn's patients... even doctors will tell you that. Not sure about UC though. Instead of running try walking instead. > > - > UC - 1+ years > SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet. > Asacol - 5 pills a day > > > > > > > > > To: BTVC-SCD > From: devorahscd@... > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 23:41:03 -0800 > Subject: Re: Exercise > > > > > > > > yes - bigtime! DH used to be a runner. He stopped for a few years and when he started running again, that was the first time he had a really bad flare. So he stopped for a long time and felt better. Started running again and had the worst flare ever. I don't know if it's all exercise, or running in particular (that is a LOT of pressure on your body), but there is a definite connection for him (unfortunately). > > > > > > From: Gramenz > To: SCD Diet btvc-scd > > Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 8:18:12 AM > Subject: Exercise > > > > I have been feeling somewhat normal as of late and wanted to get back on my treadmill to hopefully drop ten pounds. I did some walking and added in some jogging. The next day my guts felt terrible! Loose stools and gassy. I am sure I have scar tissue so I am thinking this is the culprit. I go in for surgery in March for a complete hysterectomy and to remove scar tissue in the abdomen. But, I was wondering, has anyone noticed an increase in symptoms when they do vigorous exercise? > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I think running totally did DH in. Don't mean to discourage you - you certainly seem to be taking it slower than him so maybe that will help. DH tends to just go full force right away. Anyway, DH did NOT have any bad symptoms until he started running again. (years previous he had run a few marathons). In 2006, he trained for a marathon and that was the very first time he had ANY typical Crohns symptoms. After the marathon, he didn't run again for 2-3 years and felt fine. THen he started again and boom - the Crohns came back. He has been sick ever since, even though he stopped running. So I don't mean to scare you - like I said maybe going slower will help. But just fyi... To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 6:50:07 PMSubject: Re: Exercise Wow, I had never head this before. Seriously, doctors agree that running causes Crohn's flares? This concerns me, since I used to be a marathon runner and was starting to get back into running again. Interestingly I've always wondered if the marathon running was part of the triggering of my Crohn's. I wondered if the stress or marathon training combined with a few other factors contributed.Does anyone here still run? I'm slowly making my mileage back up, but I've always been concerned that it might cause a flare. I've been ok with lifting and other cardio so far, but running always seems the hardest on my body. I'd be interested to hear if there are any runners with Crohn's that seem to be ok.Amber>> > Running is known to cause flares in Crohn's patients... even doctors will tell you that. Not sure about UC though. Instead of running try walking instead.> > -> UC - 1+ years> SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.> Asacol - 5 pills a day> > > > > > > > > To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com> From: devorahscd@. ..> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 23:41:03 -0800> Subject: Re: Exercise> > > > > > > > yes - bigtime! DH used to be a runner. He stopped for a few years and when he started running again, that was the first time he had a really bad flare. So he stopped for a long time and felt better. Started running again and had the worst flare ever. I don't know if it's all exercise, or running in particular (that is a LOT of pressure on your body), but there is a definite connection for him (unfortunately) . > > > > > > From: Gramenz <gramenz0919@ ...>> To: SCD Diet <btvc-scd@yahoogroup s.com>> Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 8:18:12 AM> Subject: Exercise> > > > I have been feeling somewhat normal as of late and wanted to get back on my treadmill to hopefully drop ten pounds. I did some walking and added in some jogging. The next day my guts felt terrible! Loose stools and gassy. I am sure I have scar tissue so I am thinking this is the culprit. I go in for surgery in March for a complete hysterectomy and to remove scar tissue in the abdomen. But, I was wondering, has anyone noticed an increase in symptoms when they do vigorous exercise?> > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.> http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 196390708/ direct/01/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I think the problem may lie in the sustainment and the stress of theexercise. Gentle running is one thing, training for a marathon another:http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/phys-ed-does-exercise-boost-immunity/?scp=1 & sq=immune%20system%20exercise & st=cseMaraOn Jan 10, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Devorah Shalev wrote:I think running totally did DH in. Don't mean to discourage you - you certainly seem to be taking it slower than him so maybe that will help. DH tends to just go full force right away. :)Anyway, DH did NOT have any bad symptoms until he started running again. (years previous he had run a few marathons). In 2006, he trained for a marathon and that was the very first time he had ANY typical Crohns symptoms. After the marathon, he didn't run again for 2-3 years and felt fine. THen he started again and boom - the Crohns came back. He has been sick ever since, even though he stopped running.So I don't mean to scare you - like I said maybe going slower will help. But just fyi...To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 6:50:07 PMSubject: Re: ExerciseWow, I had never head this before. Seriously, doctors agree that running causes Crohn's flares? This concerns me, since I used to be a marathon runner and was starting to get back into running again. Interestingly I've always wondered if the marathon running was part of the triggering of my Crohn's. I wondered if the stress or marathon training combined with a few other factors contributed.Does anyone here still run? I'm slowly making my mileage back up, but I've always been concerned that it might cause a flare. I've been ok with lifting and other cardio so far, but running always seems the hardest on my body. I'd be interested to hear if there are any runners with Crohn's that seem to be ok.Amber>> > Running is known to cause flares in Crohn's patients... even doctors will tell you that. Not sure about UC though. Instead of running try walking instead.> > -> UC - 1+ years> SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.> Asacol - 5 pills a day> > > > > > > > > To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com> From: devorahscd@. ..> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 23:41:03 -0800> Subject: Re: Exercise> > > > > > > > yes - bigtime! DH used to be a runner. He stopped for a few years and when he started running again, that was the first time he had a really bad flare. So he stopped for a long time and felt better. Started running again and had the worst flare ever. I don't know if it's all exercise, or running in particular (that is a LOT of pressure on your body), but there is a definite connection for him (unfortunately) . > > > > > > From: Gramenz <gramenz0919@ ...>> To: SCD Diet <btvc-scd@yahoogroup s.com>> Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 8:18:12 AM> Subject: Exercise> > > > I have been feeling somewhat normal as of late and wanted to get back on my treadmill to hopefully drop ten pounds. I did some walking and added in some jogging. The next day my guts felt terrible! Loose stools and gassy. I am sure I have scar tissue so I am thinking this is the culprit. I go in for surgery in March for a complete hysterectomy and to remove scar tissue in the abdomen. But, I was wondering, has anyone noticed an increase in symptoms when they do vigorous exercise?> > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.> http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 196390708/ direct/01/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 So I'm looking at this Texas Barbecue Beef brisket recipe that I want to make and I just realized it called for beer - what's a good beer substitute - anyone got a clue? Something that goes with barbecue sauce, onions, garlic, cumin, ginger, lemon, etc. I suppose I could use wine instead - or grape juice - or cider and none of those will suck, but am wondering if anyone has a more creative suggestion or on target suggestion. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Mara, Marilyn mentioned legal hard cider as a beer sub. I don't know how it will cook though. Debbie 40 cd So I'm looking at this Texas Barbecue Beef brisket recipe thatI want to make and I just realized it called for beer - what's agood beer substitute - anyone got a clue? Something that goes with barbecue sauce, onions, garlic, cumin, ginger, lemon, etc. I suppose I could use wine instead - or grape juice - or cider and none of those will suck,but am wondering if anyone has a more creative suggestionor on target suggestion. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I appreciate your sharing his experience. Actually, this is probably good for me to hear, because in the past I've been guilty of overdoing exercise and pushing myself too much. I am concerned about doing that now after my diagnosis. I'm sorry to hear that he is still sick despite stopping running. That's the part that really hit home to me. I hope he is feeling better soon. Amber > > > > > > Running is known to cause flares in Crohn's patients... even doctors will tell you that.. Not sure about UC though. Instead of running try walking instead. > > > > - > > UC - 1+ years > > SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet. > > Asacol - 5 pills a day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com > > From: devorahscd@ .. > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 23:41:03 -0800 > > Subject: Re: Exercise > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes - bigtime! DH used to be a runner. He stopped for a few years and when he started running again, that was the first time he had a really bad flare. So he stopped for a long time and felt better. Started running again and had the worst flare ever. I don't know if it's all exercise, or running in particular (that is a LOT of pressure on your body), but there is a definite connection for him (unfortunately) . > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gramenz > > To: SCD Diet > > Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 8:18:12 AM > > Subject: Exercise > > > > > > > > I have been feeling somewhat normal as of late and wanted to get back on my treadmill to hopefully drop ten pounds. I did some walking and added in some jogging. The next day my guts felt terrible! Loose stools and gassy. I am sure I have scar tissue so I am thinking this is the culprit. I go in for surgery in March for a complete hysterectomy and to remove scar tissue in the abdomen. But, I was wondering, has anyone noticed an increase in symptoms when they do vigorous exercise? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 196390708/ direct/01/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Interesting link, Mara. Thanks for sharing. I already knew marathon running suppress the immune system, but it was interesting to hear about the T1 and T2 cells. I had heard that overexercise can cause chronic inflammation, but I never knew why. > > I think the problem may lie in the sustainment and the stress of the > exercise. Gentle running is one thing, training for a marathon another: > > http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/phys-ed-does-exercise-boost-immunity/?s\ cp=1&sq=immune%20system%20exercise&st=cse > > Mara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 At 07:54 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: But, I was wondering, has anyone noticed an increase in symptoms when they do vigorous exercise? When your body's trying to heal, it has only so much energy. If you expend that energy on vigorous exercise, your body doesn't have enough to work with, and will back slide. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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