Re: My first plateau...For Robynn from Pam Marsh

November 6, 2005

Robynn, you and I talked in the office on Friday and

yes, I have some bad behaviours like the candy that I

ate at halloween (with no problems at all (yikes). I

to have carbs but in the form of potatoe but not much.

The rice does not settle well and takes up too much

room in my stomach so I don't touch it anymore. I

found that I can have honey and I do splurge on

popcorn when my boys have it. Thank God for the sugar

free popcicles (spelling) but I have found that it is

really easy to go crazy and eat about five of those

back to back. I remember Dr. Fisher telling us at the

six month apt. to stay away from sugar free stuff

because the artificle sweetners only cause us to crave

more sugary stuff. I don't exercise and have not in

months. I have not been taking my vitamins like I am

suppose to. I just feel like blah whatever that is.

I feel really bad for you Robynn especially since I

get to see you and look in your face. I see the

things that people here only hear about but it is most

difficult when you see it. I try to stay up beat

about your situation because I know you need that type

of support but I would be lying if I said I am not

down about it. And then, there is our coworker

who has for whatever reason stopped all together with

her surgery and I know it is her choice but again,

when you are seeing the person and you know what they

are going through health wise, it makes you sad. Then

there are people who are saying no more weight loss

and the fact that I can eat a hotdog including the

bun...well now, it is starting to make me feel very

unsure about if I will get these last 17 pounds off or

not. I mean deep down inside I know I will. I really

don't feel like being bothered with anyone...including

my husband. I just feel like I need to be isolated to

so that I can meditate and really hear from God. I

feel like I am searching for something but really

don't know exactly what it is. I don't know

Robynn...I just don't know. What I can offer you is

continued listening and prayer and I am hoping that

that will be enough...but we both know it is going to

take a lot more than that. Bug hug to you honey.

Pam Marsh

--- Robynn robynnsf@...> wrote:

> Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will be

> five months on the

> 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down. I

> think I lost about 5

> or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering at the

> same weight (up

> a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...

>

> this is my first " plateau " . I have consistently

> lost weight every

> week since I started. And it's fine if it is just a

> plateau...but I

> have some bad behaviours that are starting up, so I

> need a little

> help here.

>

> The past two weeks have been very very tough

> emotionally. My husband

> filed for divorce, and even though that was coming

> for a long while,

> the reality of it is quite devastating. He is very

> hurt and upset by

> my relationship with (who can blame him), and

> he is unwilling to

> stand by and let me date during our separation (even

> though that was

> what I had told him from day one.) Steve has been

> my good friend for

> 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced with

> the distinct

> possibility that I will never see him again. That

> is killing me.

>

> On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that

> is probably

> moving here in January, and I will be his sole

> support for a hwile,

> at least until it's legal for him to work. He's

> trying to get a

> student visa that will also let him work...that way

> he can work on

> his English, and get an additional certificate or

> two year

> degree...and then he'll be at a better place to

> secure a job.

>

> But the whole thing is kind of freaking me out, now.

> It feels so

> fast..but everything with him is great...and

> circumstances are

> converging to make all of this come together.

>

> But Robynn is turning to carbs a bit, and is

> emotionally eating. I

> have done stupid things, like bought those peanut

> butter filled

> pretzel bits from Trader Joe's. Went through a

> whole bag in about a

> week. Bought a second bag...and wound up throwing

> that away.

>

> Bought cookies (the ginger types with lemon

> filling). Ate a couple

> of cookies each day...threw the rest away. Ate a

> little bit of

> Halloween candy. (no, I'm not throwing up,

> unfortunately.) I eat

> too many crackers. And gee...have I been

> exercising? Well, not

> much. Yesterday, I walked for an hour...and today,

> I've done my

> treadclimber for 45 minutes.

>

> I'm hungry, but I'm pretty sure it's emotional

> hunger...because even

> when I'm NOT hungry, i've been nibbling. Anxiety

> nibbling.

>

> That worries me, A LOT. I am at 168 right now. And

> even though I

> look pretty good, I'm technically still overweight

> at my height until

> I reach 153. Dr. Fischer and I had decided that 145

> would be a good

> middle range, and I have subsequently set a private

> goal for 135.

> So, I have 33 lbs. to go...and a minimimum of 15 to

> go before I'm of

> normal weight.

>

> I know I have to stop this before it becomes

> habitual. Focus on

> protein. Make sure I'm getting my water. (I'm good

> about my

> vitamins, that's the one thing I'm being

> well-behaved about).

>

> Please help me. Is there anyone out there who

> started being non-

> compliant so darned early? This divorce thing is

> throwing me for a

> loop..and so far, I haven't gained...and I'm trying

> to nip the

> behaviours in the bud...but it worries me that I'm

> going right back

> into " food as comfort when anxious " mode.

>

> HELP!!!!

>

> Robynn

>

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Sounds to me like you need a big hug also. So here is a hug for you. Your going through a lot but please take the vitamins so many bad things can come of your not doing that. As far as SF stuff I don't go crazy and it keeps me from wanting sugar, so again I have to say everyone has to listen to their own body. Pam I hope things start going better for you and you finish your weight lose, and take some time and get away even if it's just for a day with a good friend. That's what made me feel better, even though life is still tough. Hang in there, and you're in my thoughts and prayers. Robynn you too!!! DonnaPamela A Marsh wrote:

Robynn, you and I talked in the office on Friday andyes, I have some bad behaviours like the candy that Iate at halloween (with no problems at all (yikes). Ito have carbs but in the form of potatoe but not much.The rice does not settle well and takes up too muchroom in my stomach so I don't touch it anymore. Ifound that I can have honey and I do splurge onpopcorn when my boys have it. Thank God for the sugarfree popcicles (spelling) but I have found that it isreally easy to go crazy and eat about five of thoseback to back. I remember Dr. Fisher telling us at thesix month apt. to stay away from sugar free stuffbecause the artificle sweetners only cause us to cravemore sugary stuff. I don't exercise and have not inmonths. I have not been taking my vitamins like I amsuppose to. I

just feel like blah whatever that is. I feel really bad for you Robynn especially since Iget to see you and look in your face. I see thethings that people here only hear about but it is mostdifficult when you see it. I try to stay up beatabout your situation because I know you need that typeof support but I would be lying if I said I am notdown about it. And then, there is our coworker who has for whatever reason stopped all together withher surgery and I know it is her choice but again,when you are seeing the person and you know what theyare going through health wise, it makes you sad. Thenthere are people who are saying no more weight lossand the fact that I can eat a hotdog including thebun...well now, it is starting to make me feel veryunsure about if I will get these last 17 pounds off ornot. I mean deep down inside I know I will. I reallydon't feel like being bothered

with anyone...includingmy husband. I just feel like I need to be isolated toso that I can meditate and really hear from God. Ifeel like I am searching for something but reallydon't know exactly what it is. I don't knowRobynn...I just don't know. What I can offer you iscontinued listening and prayer and I am hoping thatthat will be enough...but we both know it is going totake a lot more than that. Bug hug to you honey.Pam Marsh--- Robynn wrote:> Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will be> five months on the > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down. I> think I lost about 5 > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering at the> same weight (up > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...> > this is my first "plateau". I have consistently> lost weight every > week since I

started. And it's fine if it is just a> plateau...but I > have some bad behaviours that are starting up, so I> need a little > help here.> > The past two weeks have been very very tough> emotionally. My husband > filed for divorce, and even though that was coming> for a long while, > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is very> hurt and upset by > my relationship with (who can blame him), and> he is unwilling to > stand by and let me date during our separation (even> though that was > what I had told him from day one.) Steve has been> my good friend for > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced with> the distinct > possibility that I will never see him again. That> is killing me.> > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that > is probably > moving

here in January, and I will be his sole> support for a hwile, > at least until it's legal for him to work. He's> trying to get a > student visa that will also let him work...that way> he can work on > his English, and get an additional certificate or> two year > degree...and then he'll be at a better place to> secure a job.> > But the whole thing is kind of freaking me out, now.> It feels so > fast..but everything with him is great...and> circumstances are > converging to make all of this come together.> > But Robynn is turning to carbs a bit, and is> emotionally eating. I > have done stupid things, like bought those peanut> butter filled > pretzel bits from Trader Joe's. Went through a> whole bag in about a > week. Bought a second bag...and wound up throwing> that away.> >

Bought cookies (the ginger types with lemon> filling). Ate a couple > of cookies each day...threw the rest away. Ate a> little bit of > Halloween candy. (no, I'm not throwing up,> unfortunately.) I eat > too many crackers. And gee...have I been> exercising? Well, not > much. Yesterday, I walked for an hour...and today,> I've done my > treadclimber for 45 minutes.> > I'm hungry, but I'm pretty sure it's emotional> hunger...because even > when I'm NOT hungry, i've been nibbling. Anxiety> nibbling.> > That worries me, A LOT. I am at 168 right now. And> even though I > look pretty good, I'm technically still overweight> at my height until > I reach 153. Dr. Fischer and I had decided that 145> would be a good > middle range, and I have subsequently set a

private> goal for 135. > So, I have 33 lbs. to go...and a minimimum of 15 to> go before I'm of > normal weight.> > I know I have to stop this before it becomes> habitual. Focus on > protein. Make sure I'm getting my water. (I'm good> about my > vitamins, that's the one thing I'm being> well-behaved about).> > Please help me. Is there anyone out there who> started being non-> compliant so darned early? This divorce thing is> throwing me for a > loop..and so far, I haven't gained...and I'm trying> to nip the > behaviours in the bud...but it worries me that I'm> going right back > into "food as comfort when anxious" mode.> > HELP!!!!> > Robynn> > > >

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Thank you Donna so much for your kind words. I am

sure that this is probably just a phase I am going

through so I will just stay the course and go through

this. In spite of...I have high hopes.

Thanks again.

Pam Marsh

--- Donna Jordon dsjordon@...> wrote:

> Pam Marsh

> Sounds to me like you need a big hug also. So here

> is a hug for you. Your going through a lot but

> please take the vitamins so many bad things can come

> of your not doing that. As far as SF stuff I don't

> go crazy and it keeps me from wanting sugar, so

> again I have to say everyone has to listen to their

> own body. Pam I hope things start going better for

> you and you finish your weight lose, and take some

> time and get away even if it's just for a day with a

> good friend. That's what made me feel better, even

> though life is still tough. Hang in there, and

> you're in my thoughts and prayers. Robynn you

> too!!! Donna

>

> Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...> wrote:

> Robynn, you and I talked in the office on Friday and

> yes, I have some bad behaviours like the candy that

> I

> ate at halloween (with no problems at all (yikes).

> I

> to have carbs but in the form of potatoe but not

> much.

> The rice does not settle well and takes up too much

> room in my stomach so I don't touch it anymore. I

> found that I can have honey and I do splurge on

> popcorn when my boys have it. Thank God for the

> sugar

> free popcicles (spelling) but I have found that it

> is

> really easy to go crazy and eat about five of those

> back to back. I remember Dr. Fisher telling us at

> the

> six month apt. to stay away from sugar free stuff

> because the artificle sweetners only cause us to

> crave

> more sugary stuff. I don't exercise and have not in

> months. I have not been taking my vitamins like I

> am

> suppose to. I just feel like blah whatever that is.

>

> I feel really bad for you Robynn especially since I

> get to see you and look in your face. I see the

> things that people here only hear about but it is

> most

> difficult when you see it. I try to stay up beat

> about your situation because I know you need that

> type

> of support but I would be lying if I said I am not

> down about it. And then, there is our coworker

>

> who has for whatever reason stopped all together

> with

> her surgery and I know it is her choice but again,

> when you are seeing the person and you know what

> they

> are going through health wise, it makes you sad.

> Then

> there are people who are saying no more weight loss

> and the fact that I can eat a hotdog including the

> bun...well now, it is starting to make me feel very

> unsure about if I will get these last 17 pounds off

> or

> not. I mean deep down inside I know I will. I

> really

> don't feel like being bothered with

> anyone...including

> my husband. I just feel like I need to be isolated

> to

> so that I can meditate and really hear from God. I

> feel like I am searching for something but really

> don't know exactly what it is. I don't know

> Robynn...I just don't know. What I can offer you is

> continued listening and prayer and I am hoping that

> that will be enough...but we both know it is going

> to

> take a lot more than that. Bug hug to you honey.

>

> Pam Marsh

>

> --- Robynn robynnsf@...> wrote:

>

> > Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will be

> > five months on the

> > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down. I

> > think I lost about 5

> > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering at

> the

> > same weight (up

> > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...

> >

> > this is my first " plateau " . I have consistently

> > lost weight every

> > week since I started. And it's fine if it is just

> a

> > plateau...but I

> > have some bad behaviours that are starting up, so

> I

> > need a little

> > help here.

> >

> > The past two weeks have been very very tough

> > emotionally. My husband

> > filed for divorce, and even though that was coming

> > for a long while,

> > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is

> very

> > hurt and upset by

> > my relationship with (who can blame him), and

> > he is unwilling to

> > stand by and let me date during our separation

> (even

> > though that was

> > what I had told him from day one.) Steve has been

> > my good friend for

> > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced with

> > the distinct

> > possibility that I will never see him again. That

> > is killing me.

> >

> > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that

>

> > is probably

> > moving here in January, and I will be his sole

> > support for a hwile,

> > at least until it's legal for him to work. He's

> > trying to get a

> > student visa that will also let him work...that

> way

> > he can work on

> > his English, and get an additional certificate or

> > two year

> > degree...and then he'll be at a better place to

> > secure a job.

> >

> > But the whole thing is kind of freaking me out,

> now.

> > It feels so

> > fast..but everything with him is great...and

> > circumstances are

> > converging to make all of this come together.

> >

> > But Robynn is turning to carbs a bit, and is

> > emotionally eating. I

> > have done stupid things, like bought those peanut

> > butter filled

> > pretzel bits from Trader Joe's. Went through a

> > whole bag in about a

> > week. Bought a second bag...and wound up throwing

> > that away.

> >

> > Bought cookies (the ginger types with lemon

> > filling). Ate a couple

> > of cookies each day...threw the rest away. Ate a

> > little bit of

> > Halloween candy. (no, I'm not throwing up,

> > unfortunately.) I eat

> > too many crackers. And gee...have I been

> > exercising? Well, not

> > much. Yesterday, I walked for an hour...and

> today,

> > I've done my

> > treadclimber for 45 minutes.

> >

> > I'm hungry, but I'm pretty sure it's emotional

> > hunger...because even

> > when I'm NOT hungry, i've been nibbling. Anxiety

> > nibbling.

> >

> > That worries me, A LOT. I am at 168 right now.

> And

> > even though I

> > look pretty good, I'm technically still overweight

> > at my height until

> > I reach 153. Dr. Fischer and I had decided that

> 145

> > would be a good

> > middle range, and I have subsequently set a

> private

> > goal for 135.

> > So, I have 33 lbs. to go...and a minimimum of 15

> to

> > go before I'm of

> > normal weight.

> >

> > I know I have to stop this before it becomes

> > habitual. Focus on

> > protein. Make sure I'm getting my water. (I'm

> good

> > about my

> > vitamins, that's the one thing I'm being

> > well-behaved about).

> >

> > Please help me. Is there anyone out there who

> > started being non-

> > compliant so darned early? This divorce thing is

> > throwing me for a

> > loop..and so far, I haven't gained...and I'm

> trying

> > to nip the

> > behaviours in the bud...but it worries me that I'm

>

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Big Hugs to you Pam...if you need me Im here!!

Huggles

> >

> > > Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will be

> > > five months on the

> > > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down. I

> > > think I lost about 5

> > > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering at

> > the

> > > same weight (up

> > > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...

> > >

> > > this is my first " plateau " . I have consistently

> > > lost weight every

> > > week since I started. And it's fine if it is just

> > a

> > > plateau...but I

> > > have some bad behaviours that are starting up, so

> > I

> > > need a little

> > > help here.

> > >

> > > The past two weeks have been very very tough

> > > emotionally. My husband

> > > filed for divorce, and even though that was coming

> > > for a long while,

> > > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is

> > very

> > > hurt and upset by

> > > my relationship with (who can blame him), and

> > > he is unwilling to

> > > stand by and let me date during our separation

> > (even

> > > though that was

> > > what I had told him from day one.) Steve has been

> > > my good friend for

> > > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced with

> > > the distinct

> > > possibility that I will never see him again. That

> > > is killing me.

> > >

> > > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that

> >

> > > is probably

> > > moving here in January, and I will be his sole

> > > support for a hwile,

> > > at least until it's legal for him to work. He's

> > > trying to get a

> > > student visa that will also let him work...that

> > way

> > > he can work on

> > > his English, and get an additional certificate or

> > > two year

> > > degree...and then he'll be at a better place to

> > > secure a job.

> > >

> > > But the whole thing is kind of freaking me out,

> > now.

> > > It feels so

> > > fast..but everything with him is great...and

> > > circumstances are

> > > converging to make all of this come together.

> > >

> > > But Robynn is turning to carbs a bit, and is

> > > emotionally eating. I

> > > have done stupid things, like bought those peanut

> > > butter filled

> > > pretzel bits from Trader Joe's. Went through a

> > > whole bag in about a

> > > week. Bought a second bag...and wound up throwing

> > > that away.

> > >

> > > Bought cookies (the ginger types with lemon

> > > filling). Ate a couple

> > > of cookies each day...threw the rest away. Ate a

> > > little bit of

> > > Halloween candy. (no, I'm not throwing up,

> > > unfortunately.) I eat

> > > too many crackers. And gee...have I been

> > > exercising? Well, not

> > > much. Yesterday, I walked for an hour...and

> > today,

> > > I've done my

> > > treadclimber for 45 minutes.

> > >

> > > I'm hungry, but I'm pretty sure it's emotional

> > > hunger...because even

> > > when I'm NOT hungry, i've been nibbling. Anxiety

> > > nibbling.

> > >

> > > That worries me, A LOT. I am at 168 right now.

> > And

> > > even though I

> > > look pretty good, I'm technically still overweight

> > > at my height until

> > > I reach 153. Dr. Fischer and I had decided that

> > 145

> > > would be a good

> > > middle range, and I have subsequently set a

> > private

> > > goal for 135.

> > > So, I have 33 lbs. to go...and a minimimum of 15

> > to

> > > go before I'm of

> > > normal weight.

> > >

> > > I know I have to stop this before it becomes

> > > habitual. Focus on

> > > protein. Make sure I'm getting my water. (I'm

> > good

> > > about my

> > > vitamins, that's the one thing I'm being

> > > well-behaved about).

> > >

> > > Please help me. Is there anyone out there who

> > > started being non-

> > > compliant so darned early? This divorce thing is

> > > throwing me for a

> > > loop..and so far, I haven't gained...and I'm

> > trying

> > > to nip the

> > > behaviours in the bud...but it worries me that I'm

> >

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>

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>

November 6, 2005

Thank you . I am sorry that I don't post much

at all anymore. I just feel that I don't really have

anything to offer to anyone and I am sure in some

small way I am wrong about that but that is how I

feel. I guess I am just going through a funk and I

know it will soon pass. I plan on getting up at 3:30

instead of 3:45 so I can at least get in 1.5 miles on

my treadmill. Its doable in 20 minutes so wish me

luck. Hopefully with that run it will release some of

this tension/stress that I am experiencing. The sad

part is I am not even sure why I feel like this.

Whisper a prayer for me would you and I know I still

owe you a call.

Pam Marsh

--- Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...>

wrote:

> Big Hugs to you Pam...if you need me Im here!!

>

> Huggles

>

> > >

> > > > Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will

> be

> > > > five months on the

> > > > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down.

> I

> > > > think I lost about 5

> > > > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering

> at

> > > the

> > > > same weight (up

> > > > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...

> > > >

> > > > this is my first " plateau " . I have

> consistently

> > > > lost weight every

> > > > week since I started. And it's fine if it is

> just

> > > a

> > > > plateau...but I

> > > > have some bad behaviours that are starting up,

> so

> > > I

> > > > need a little

> > > > help here.

> > > >

> > > > The past two weeks have been very very tough

> > > > emotionally. My husband

> > > > filed for divorce, and even though that was

> coming

> > > > for a long while,

> > > > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is

> > > very

> > > > hurt and upset by

> > > > my relationship with (who can blame him),

> and

> > > > he is unwilling to

> > > > stand by and let me date during our separation

> > > (even

> > > > though that was

> > > > what I had told him from day one.) Steve has

> been

> > > > my good friend for

> > > > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced

> with

> > > > the distinct

> > > > possibility that I will never see him again.

> That

> > > > is killing me.

> > > >

> > > > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that

> > >

> > > > is probably

> > > > moving here in January, and I will be his sole

> > > > support for a hwile,

> > > > at least until it's legal for him to work.

> He's

> > > > trying to get a

> > > > student visa that will also let him

> work...that

> > > way

>

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Pam Marsh, you are one of the first few people whose posts I found very helpful when I first joined this list. Yes, you do have a lot to offer all of us, just based on your experience and general knowledge of this entire journey. I have been wondering what happened to you until you finally posted yesterday (was it?). Nice to see you posting again, and don't feel bad. It's just a funk and you WILL get back into the swing of things.

Ron

Re: Re: My first plateau...For Robynn from Pam Marsh

Thank you . I am sorry that I don't post muchat all anymore. I just feel that I don't really haveanything to offer to anyone and I am sure in somesmall way I am wrong about that but that is how Ifeel. I guess I am just going through a funk and Iknow it will soon pass. I plan on getting up at 3:30instead of 3:45 so I can at least get in 1.5 miles onmy treadmill. Its doable in 20 minutes so wish meluck. Hopefully with that run it will release some ofthis tension/stress that I am experiencing. The sadpart is I am not even sure why I feel like this. Whisper a prayer for me would you and I know I stillowe you a call.Pam Marsh--- Diane Duenas wrote:> Big Hugs to you Pam...if you need me Im here!!> > Huggles> > > > > > > > > Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will> be> > > > five months on the > > > > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down. > I> > > > think I lost about 5 > > > > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering> at> > > the> > > > same weight (up > > > > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...> > > > > > > > this is my first "plateau". I have> consistently> > > > lost weight every > > > > week since I started. And it's fine if it is> just> > > a> > > > plateau...but I > > > > have some bad behaviours that are starting up,> so> > > I> > > > need a little > > > > help here.> > > > > > > > The past two weeks have been very very tough> > > > emotionally. My husband > > > > filed for divorce, and even though that was> coming> > > > for a long while, > > > > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is> > > very> > > > hurt and upset by > > > > my relationship with (who can blame him),> and> > > > he is unwilling to > > > > stand by and let me date during our separation> > > (even> > > > though that was > > > > what I had told him from day one.) Steve has> been> > > > my good friend for > > > > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced> with> > > > the distinct > > > > possibility that I will never see him again. > That> > > > is killing me.> > > > > > > > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that> > > > > > > is probably > > > > moving here in January, and I will be his sole> > > > support for a hwile, > > > > at least until it's legal for him to work. > He's> > > > trying to get a > > > > student visa that will also let him> work...that> > > way> === message truncated === __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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Pam

I was feeling like that for a while too. I finally asked my gyn for

some meds. I started on Wellbutrin and its helping. Ive been

struggling for quite a while. But things are finally better. Me and

my hubby are planning a weekend getaway without the kids and just

spending some together time. Things are better with us than they

have ever been...even in the beginning! I too just had to look

inside me and really find out who I was...I certainly didnt know for

a while. You are on my mind constantly. Maybe we can get together

for a walk soon.

Huggles

> > > >

> > > > > Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will

> > be

> > > > > five months on the

> > > > > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down.

> > I

> > > > > think I lost about 5

> > > > > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering

> > at

> > > > the

> > > > > same weight (up

> > > > > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...

> > > > >

> > > > > this is my first " plateau " . I have

> > consistently

> > > > > lost weight every

> > > > > week since I started. And it's fine if it is

> > just

> > > > a

> > > > > plateau...but I

> > > > > have some bad behaviours that are starting up,

> > so

> > > > I

> > > > > need a little

> > > > > help here.

> > > > >

> > > > > The past two weeks have been very very tough

> > > > > emotionally. My husband

> > > > > filed for divorce, and even though that was

> > coming

> > > > > for a long while,

> > > > > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is

> > > > very

> > > > > hurt and upset by

> > > > > my relationship with (who can blame him),

> > and

> > > > > he is unwilling to

> > > > > stand by and let me date during our separation

> > > > (even

> > > > > though that was

> > > > > what I had told him from day one.) Steve has

> > been

> > > > > my good friend for

> > > > > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced

> > with

> > > > > the distinct

> > > > > possibility that I will never see him again.

> > That

> > > > > is killing me.

> > > > >

> > > > > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that

> > > >

> > > > > is probably

> > > > > moving here in January, and I will be his sole

> > > > > support for a hwile,

> > > > > at least until it's legal for him to work.

> > He's

> > > > > trying to get a

> > > > > student visa that will also let him

> > work...that

> > > > way

> >

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Pam

It's a new day, keep your spirits high and stay a course, hugs to you. DonnaPamela A Marsh wrote:

Thank you Donna so much for your kind words. I amsure that this is probably just a phase I am goingthrough so I will just stay the course and go throughthis. In spite of...I have high hopes.Thanks again.Pam Marsh--- Donna Jordon wrote:> Pam Marsh> Sounds to me like you need a big hug also. So here> is a hug for you. Your going through a lot but> please take the vitamins so many bad things can come> of your not doing that. As far as SF stuff I don't> go crazy and it keeps me from wanting sugar, so> again I have to say everyone has to listen to their> own body. Pam I hope things start going better for> you and you finish your weight lose, and take some> time and get away even if it's just for a day with a>

good friend. That's what made me feel better, even> though life is still tough. Hang in there, and> you're in my thoughts and prayers. Robynn you> too!!! Donna> > Pamela A Marsh wrote:> Robynn, you and I talked in the office on Friday and> yes, I have some bad behaviours like the candy that> I> ate at halloween (with no problems at all (yikes). > I> to have carbs but in the form of potatoe but not> much.> The rice does not settle well and takes up too much> room in my stomach so I don't touch it anymore. I> found that I can have honey and I do splurge on> popcorn when my boys have it. Thank God for the> sugar> free popcicles (spelling) but I have found that it> is> really easy to go crazy and eat about five of those> back to back. I remember Dr. Fisher telling

us at> the> six month apt. to stay away from sugar free stuff> because the artificle sweetners only cause us to> crave> more sugary stuff. I don't exercise and have not in> months. I have not been taking my vitamins like I> am> suppose to. I just feel like blah whatever that is.> > I feel really bad for you Robynn especially since I> get to see you and look in your face. I see the> things that people here only hear about but it is> most> difficult when you see it. I try to stay up beat> about your situation because I know you need that> type> of support but I would be lying if I said I am not> down about it. And then, there is our coworker> > who has for whatever reason stopped all together> with> her surgery and I know it is her choice but again,> when you are seeing the person and

you know what> they> are going through health wise, it makes you sad. > Then> there are people who are saying no more weight loss> and the fact that I can eat a hotdog including the> bun...well now, it is starting to make me feel very> unsure about if I will get these last 17 pounds off> or> not. I mean deep down inside I know I will. I> really> don't feel like being bothered with> anyone...including> my husband. I just feel like I need to be isolated> to> so that I can meditate and really hear from God. I> feel like I am searching for something but really> don't know exactly what it is. I don't know> Robynn...I just don't know. What I can offer you is> continued listening and prayer and I am hoping that> that will be enough...but we both know it is going> to> take a lot more than that. Bug

hug to you honey.> > Pam Marsh> > --- Robynn wrote:> > > Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will be> > five months on the > > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down. I> > think I lost about 5 > > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering at> the> > same weight (up > > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...> > > > this is my first "plateau". I have consistently> > lost weight every > > week since I started. And it's fine if it is just> a> > plateau...but I > > have some bad behaviours that are starting up, so> I> > need a little > > help here.> > > > The past two weeks have been very very tough> > emotionally. My husband > > filed for divorce, and even though that was

coming> > for a long while, > > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is> very> > hurt and upset by > > my relationship with (who can blame him), and> > he is unwilling to > > stand by and let me date during our separation> (even> > though that was > > what I had told him from day one.) Steve has been> > my good friend for > > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced with> > the distinct > > possibility that I will never see him again. That> > is killing me.> > > > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that> > > is probably > > moving here in January, and I will be his sole> > support for a hwile, > > at least until it's legal for him to work. He's> > trying to get a > > student visa that will also

let him work...that> way> > he can work on > > his English, and get an additional certificate or> > two year > > degree...and then he'll be at a better place to> > secure a job.> > > > But the whole thing is kind of freaking me out,> now.> > It feels so > > fast..but everything with him is great...and> > circumstances are > > converging to make all of this come together.> > > > But Robynn is turning to carbs a bit, and is> > emotionally eating. I > > have done stupid things, like bought those peanut> > butter filled > > pretzel bits from Trader Joe's. Went through a> > whole bag in about a > > week. Bought a second bag...and wound up throwing> > that away.> > > > Bought cookies (the ginger types with lemon> >

filling). Ate a couple > > of cookies each day...threw the rest away. Ate a> > little bit of > > Halloween candy. (no, I'm not throwing up,> > unfortunately.) I eat > > too many crackers. And gee...have I been> > exercising? Well, not > > much. Yesterday, I walked for an hour...and> today,> > I've done my > > treadclimber for 45 minutes.> > > > I'm hungry, but I'm pretty sure it's emotional> > hunger...because even > > when I'm NOT hungry, i've been nibbling. Anxiety> > nibbling.> > > > That worries me, A LOT. I am at 168 right now. > And> > even though I > > look pretty good, I'm technically still overweight> > at my height until > > I reach 153. Dr. Fischer and I had decided that> 145> > would

be a good > > middle range, and I have subsequently set a> private> > goal for 135. > > So, I have 33 lbs. to go...and a minimimum of 15> to> > go before I'm of > > normal weight.> > > > I know I have to stop this before it becomes> > habitual. Focus on > > protein. Make sure I'm getting my water. (I'm> good> > about my > > vitamins, that's the one thing I'm being> > well-behaved about).> > > > Please help me. Is there anyone out there who> > started being non-> > compliant so darned early? This divorce thing is> > throwing me for a > > loop..and so far, I haven't gained...and I'm> trying> > to nip the > > behaviours in the bud...but it worries me that I'm> === message truncated

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November 7, 2005

Donna, you have encouraged me so very much and I want

to thank you. I got up just as I said I would 3:20

and I did a 1.5 miles, had my protein drink at 4:30

and still got out of the house at 5:00 to head to

work. I had my B12, Calcium and will take my multi

around 9:00 and then the iron.

Thank you so much for being here for me. I really

appreciate it and sorry for leaning on you so much but

I do appreciate you.

Pam Marsh

--- Donna Jordon dsjordon@...> wrote:

> Pam

> It's a new day, keep your spirits high and stay a

> course, hugs to you. Donna

>

> Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...> wrote:

> Thank you Donna so much for your kind words. I am

> sure that this is probably just a phase I am going

> through so I will just stay the course and go

> through

> this. In spite of...I have high hopes.

>

> Thanks again.

>

> Pam Marsh

>

> --- Donna Jordon dsjordon@...> wrote:

>

> > Pam Marsh

> > Sounds to me like you need a big hug also. So

> here

> > is a hug for you. Your going through a lot but

> > please take the vitamins so many bad things can

> come

> > of your not doing that. As far as SF stuff I

> don't

> > go crazy and it keeps me from wanting sugar, so

> > again I have to say everyone has to listen to

> their

> > own body. Pam I hope things start going better

> for

> > you and you finish your weight lose, and take some

> > time and get away even if it's just for a day with

> a

> > good friend. That's what made me feel better,

> even

> > though life is still tough. Hang in there, and

> > you're in my thoughts and prayers. Robynn you

> > too!!! Donna

> >

> > Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...>

> wrote:

> > Robynn, you and I talked in the office on Friday

> and

> > yes, I have some bad behaviours like the candy

> that

> > I

> > ate at halloween (with no problems at all (yikes).

>

> > I

> > to have carbs but in the form of potatoe but not

> > much.

> > The rice does not settle well and takes up too

> much

> > room in my stomach so I don't touch it anymore. I

> > found that I can have honey and I do splurge on

> > popcorn when my boys have it. Thank God for the

> > sugar

> > free popcicles (spelling) but I have found that it

> > is

> > really easy to go crazy and eat about five of

> those

> > back to back. I remember Dr. Fisher telling us at

> > the

> > six month apt. to stay away from sugar free stuff

> > because the artificle sweetners only cause us to

> > crave

> > more sugary stuff. I don't exercise and have not

> in

> > months. I have not been taking my vitamins like I

> > am

> > suppose to. I just feel like blah whatever that

> is.

> >

> > I feel really bad for you Robynn especially since

> I

> > get to see you and look in your face. I see the

> > things that people here only hear about but it is

> > most

> > difficult when you see it. I try to stay up beat

> > about your situation because I know you need that

> > type

> > of support but I would be lying if I said I am not

> > down about it. And then, there is our coworker

> >

> > who has for whatever reason stopped all together

> > with

> > her surgery and I know it is her choice but again,

> > when you are seeing the person and you know what

> > they

> > are going through health wise, it makes you sad.

> > Then

> > there are people who are saying no more weight

> loss

> > and the fact that I can eat a hotdog including the

> > bun...well now, it is starting to make me feel

> very

> > unsure about if I will get these last 17 pounds

> off

> > or

> > not. I mean deep down inside I know I will. I

> > really

> > don't feel like being bothered with

> > anyone...including

> > my husband. I just feel like I need to be

> isolated

> > to

> > so that I can meditate and really hear from God.

> I

> > feel like I am searching for something but really

> > don't know exactly what it is. I don't know

> > Robynn...I just don't know. What I can offer you

> is

> > continued listening and prayer and I am hoping

> that

> > that will be enough...but we both know it is going

> > to

> > take a lot more than that. Bug hug to you honey.

> >

> > Pam Marsh

> >

> > --- Robynn robynnsf@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will be

> > > five months on the

> > > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down. I

> > > think I lost about 5

> > > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering at

> > the

> > > same weight (up

> > > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...

> > >

> > > this is my first " plateau " . I have consistently

> > > lost weight every

> > > week since I started. And it's fine if it is

> just

> > a

> > > plateau...but I

> > > have some bad behaviours that are starting up,

> so

> > I

> > > need a little

> > > help here.

> > >

> > > The past two weeks have been very very tough

> > > emotionally. My husband

> > > filed for divorce, and even though that was

> coming

> > > for a long while,

> > > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is

> > very

> > > hurt and upset by

> > > my relationship with (who can blame him),

> and

> > > he is unwilling to

> > > stand by and let me date during our separation

> > (even

> > > though that was

> > > what I had told him from day one.) Steve has

> been

> > > my good friend for

> > > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced

> with

> > > the distinct

> > > possibility that I will never see him again.

> That

> > > is killing me.

> > >

> > > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that

> >

> > > is probably

> > > moving here in January, and I will be his sole

> > > support for a hwile,

> > > at least until it's legal for him to work. He's

> > > trying to get a

> > > student visa that will also let him work...that

> > way

> > > he can work on

> > > his English, and get an additional certificate

> or

> > > two year

> > > degree...and then he'll be at a better place to

> > > secure a job.

> > >

> > > But the whole thing is kind of freaking me out,

> > now.

> > > It feels so

> > > fast..but everything with him is great...and

> > > circumstances are

> > > converging to make all of this come together.

> > >

> > > But Robynn is turning to carbs a bit, and is

> > > emotionally eating. I

> > > have done stupid things, like bought those

> peanut

> > > butter filled

> > > pretzel bits from Trader Joe's. Went through a

> > > whole bag in about a

> > > week. Bought a second bag...and wound up

> throwing

> > > that away.

> > >

>

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Thanks , I will hang in here and post more,

especially about things that are bugging me or that

have been bugging me but I just did not want to post

it. I am inspired by you and I wish you continued

success. Thanks again.

Pam Marsh

--- Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...>

wrote:

> Pam

> I was feeling like that for a while too. I finally

> asked my gyn for

> some meds. I started on Wellbutrin and its helping.

> Ive been

> struggling for quite a while. But things are finally

> better. Me and

> my hubby are planning a weekend getaway without the

> kids and just

> spending some together time. Things are better with

> us than they

> have ever been...even in the beginning! I too just

> had to look

> inside me and really find out who I was...I

> certainly didnt know for

> a while. You are on my mind constantly. Maybe we can

> get together

> for a walk soon.

>

> Huggles

>

> > > > > Robynn, you and I talked in the office on

> Friday

> > > and

> > > > > yes, I have some bad behaviours like the

> candy

> > > that

> > > > > I

> > > > > ate at halloween (with no problems at all

> > > (yikes).

> > > > > I

> > > > > to have carbs but in the form of potatoe but

> not

> > > > > much.

> > > > > The rice does not settle well and takes up

> too

> > > much

> > > > > room in my stomach so I don't touch it

> anymore.

> > > I

> > > > > found that I can have honey and I do splurge

> on

> > > > > popcorn when my boys have it. Thank God for

> the

> > > > > sugar

> > > > > free popcicles (spelling) but I have found

> that

> > > it

> > > > > is

> > > > > really easy to go crazy and eat about five

> of

> > > those

> > > > > back to back. I remember Dr. Fisher telling

> us

> > > at

> > > > > the

> > > > > six month apt. to stay away from sugar free

> > > stuff

> > > > > because the artificle sweetners only cause

> us to

> > > > > crave

> > > > > more sugary stuff. I don't exercise and

> have

> > > not in

> > > > > months. I have not been taking my vitamins

> like

> > > I

> > > > > am

> > > > > suppose to. I just feel like blah whatever

> that

> > > is.

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel really bad for you Robynn especially

> > > since I

> > > > > get to see you and look in your face. I see

> the

> > > > > things that people here only hear about but

> it

> > > is

> > > > > most

> > > > > difficult when you see it. I try to stay up

> > > beat

> > > > > about your situation because I know you need

> > > that

> > > > > type

> > > > > of support but I would be lying if I said I

> am

> > > not

> > > > > down about it. And then, there is our

> coworker

> > > > >

> > > > > who has for whatever reason stopped all

> together

> > > > > with

> > > > > her surgery and I know it is her choice but

> > > again,

> > > > > when you are seeing the person and you know

> what

> > > > > they

> > > > > are going through health wise, it makes you

> sad.

> > >

> > > > > Then

> > > > > there are people who are saying no more

> weight

> > > loss

> > > > > and the fact that I can eat a hotdog

> including

>

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Pam,

I hope you did the treadmill, when we're feeling sad and down exercise will help you brain release extra chemicals and helps you feel better. With my husband's depression that's what they tell exercise even if it's only 20 minutes a day, and if the funk doesn't go away go see the psych doctor, you might have a small touch of depression. Your in my prayers and thoughts. DonnaPamela A Marsh wrote:

Thank you . I am sorry that I don't post muchat all anymore. I just feel that I don't really haveanything to offer to anyone and I am sure in somesmall way I am wrong about that but that is how Ifeel. I guess I am just going through a funk and Iknow it will soon pass. I plan on getting up at 3:30instead of 3:45 so I can at least get in 1.5 miles onmy treadmill. Its doable in 20 minutes so wish meluck. Hopefully with that run it will release some ofthis tension/stress that I am experiencing. The sadpart is I am not even sure why I feel like this. Whisper a prayer for me would you and I know I stillowe you a call.Pam Marsh--- Diane Duenas wrote:> Big Hugs to you Pam...if you need me Im here!!> >

Huggles> > > > > > > > > Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will> be> > > > five months on the > > > > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down. > I> > > > think I lost about 5 > > > > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering> at> > > the> > > > same weight (up > > > > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...> > > > > > > > this is my first "plateau". I have> consistently>

> > > lost weight every > > > > week since I started. And it's fine if it is> just> > > a> > > > plateau...but I > > > > have some bad behaviours that are starting up,> so> > > I> > > > need a little > > > > help here.> > > > > > > > The past two weeks have been very very tough> > > > emotionally. My husband > > > > filed for divorce, and even though that was> coming> > > > for a long while, > > > > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is> > > very> > > > hurt and upset by > > > > my relationship with (who can blame him),> and> > > > he is unwilling to > > > > stand by and let me date during our separation> > > (even> >

> > though that was > > > > what I had told him from day one.) Steve has> been> > > > my good friend for > > > > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced> with> > > > the distinct > > > > possibility that I will never see him again. > That> > > > is killing me.> > > > > > > > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that> > > > > > > is probably > > > > moving here in January, and I will be his sole> > > > support for a hwile, > > > > at least until it's legal for him to work. > He's> > > > trying to get a > > > > student visa that will also let him> work...that> > > way> === message truncated ===

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Yes Donna, it did do my treadmill. I think the only

thing that saved me was the fact that I slept in my

work out clothes (including socks) so all I had to do

was put my shoes on, brush my teeth and wash my face.

I did it and I feel fine (not tired) but we will see

as the day passes. It was only 20 more minutes

earlier than normal so I am not sure how much more

damage that could do. You are probably right because

I had some mini crying spells yesterday and that

really and truly bothered me. I could not shake it

and I will be watchful and if I can't shake this funk

thing, I will go see the doctor. Thanks again.

Pam Marsh

--- Donna Jordon dsjordon@...> wrote:

> Pam,

> I hope you did the treadmill, when we're feeling sad

> and down exercise will help you brain release extra

> chemicals and helps you feel better. With my

> husband's depression that's what they tell exercise

> even if it's only 20 minutes a day, and if the funk

> doesn't go away go see the psych doctor, you might

> have a small touch of depression. Your in my

> prayers and thoughts. Donna

>

> Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...> wrote:

> Thank you . I am sorry that I don't post much

> at all anymore. I just feel that I don't really

> have

> anything to offer to anyone and I am sure in some

> small way I am wrong about that but that is how I

> feel. I guess I am just going through a funk and I

> know it will soon pass. I plan on getting up at

> 3:30

> instead of 3:45 so I can at least get in 1.5 miles

> on

> my treadmill. Its doable in 20 minutes so wish me

> luck. Hopefully with that run it will release some

> of

> this tension/stress that I am experiencing. The sad

> part is I am not even sure why I feel like this.

> Whisper a prayer for me would you and I know I still

> owe you a call.

>

> Pam Marsh

>

> --- Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Big Hugs to you Pam...if you need me Im here!!

> >

> > Huggles

> >

> > > >

>

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Good morning Ron, thank you for your kind words. Yes,

it was yesterday. It was a very bad day for me

yesterday. Yes, I was very sad and I had a couple of

crying spells and I could not put my finger on it. I

tossed things around in my head. I have the two

sweetest boys in the world that I have NO problems

with except they are autistic. My husband of 18 years

is the best who I love dearly who always making sure I

am okay. My job (I work with Robynn), I can't even

complain. My size, I am loving it and feeling great

in the body. So whats wrong with me. Donna said

maybe depressed and I am in agreement with that

although I did not want to admit it. So I am going to

try and work through this. I got up at 3:20 to start

back exercising and I am journaling what I am eating

(been good with the exception of the candy I ate at

halloween) but I had not been doing good with the

vitamins and I had started skipping meals again. So I

did the work out and took my am vitamins and I am

getting in the water. I am usually fine when I am at

work. Its on the weekends that I get in funks. I

have to find something to keep me occupied. Thanks

again for your support Ron and I will post about the

good as well as about the bad. I just feel like I am

being a burden if I post something that is not

positive and so I have not outlet. I promise to not

think this way because if I continue, I am going to

crack in a big way and I can't afford to do that.

Here is a big hug to you and thanks again.

Pam Marsh

--- BBQ Man bbq_man@...> wrote:

> Pam Marsh, you are one of the first few people whose

> posts I found very helpful when I first joined this

> list. Yes, you do have a lot to offer all of us,

> just based on your experience and general knowledge

> of this entire journey. I have been wondering what

> happened to you until you finally posted yesterday

> (was it?). Nice to see you posting again, and don't

> feel bad. It's just a funk and you WILL get back

> into the swing of things.

>

> Ron

> Re:

> Re: My

> first plateau...For Robynn from Pam Marsh

>

> Thank you . I am sorry that I don't post

> much

> at all anymore. I just feel that I don't really

> have

> anything to offer to anyone and I am sure in some

> small way I am wrong about that but that is how I

> feel. I guess I am just going through a funk and

> I

> know it will soon pass. I plan on getting up at

> 3:30

> instead of 3:45 so I can at least get in 1.5 miles

> on

> my treadmill. Its doable in 20 minutes so wish me

> luck. Hopefully with that run it will release

> some of

> this tension/stress that I am experiencing. The

> sad

> part is I am not even sure why I feel like this.

> Whisper a prayer for me would you and I know I

> still

> owe you a call.

>

> Pam Marsh

>

> --- Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Big Hugs to you Pam...if you need me Im here!!

> >

> > Huggles

> >

> > > > Robynn, you and I talked in the office on

> Friday

> > and

> > > > yes, I have some bad behaviours like the

> candy

> > that

> > > > I

> > > > ate at halloween (with no problems at all

> > (yikes).

> > > > I

> > > > to have carbs but in the form of potatoe but

> not

> > > > much.

> > > > The rice does not settle well and takes up

> too

> > much

> > > > room in my stomach so I don't touch it

> anymore.

> > I

> > > > found that I can have honey and I do splurge

> on

> > > > popcorn when my boys have it. Thank God for

> the

> > > > sugar

> > > > free popcicles (spelling) but I have found

> that

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > really easy to go crazy and eat about five

> of

> > those

> > > > back to back. I remember Dr. Fisher telling

> us

> > at

> > > > the

> > > > six month apt. to stay away from sugar free

> > stuff

> > > > because the artificle sweetners only cause

> us to

> > > > crave

> > > > more sugary stuff. I don't exercise and

> have

> > not in

> > > > months. I have not been taking my vitamins

> like

> > I

> > > > am

> > > > suppose to. I just feel like blah whatever

> that

> > is.

> > > >

> > > > I feel really bad for you Robynn especially

> > since I

> > > > get to see you and look in your face. I see

> the

> > > > things that people here only hear about but

> it

> > is

> > > > most

> > > > difficult when you see it. I try to stay up

> > beat

> > > > about your situation because I know you need

> > that

> > > > type

> > > > of support but I would be lying if I said I

> am

> > not

> > > > down about it. And then, there is our

> coworker

> > > >

> > > > who has for whatever reason stopped all

> together

> > > > with

> > > > her surgery and I know it is her choice but

> > again,

> > > > when you are seeing the person and you know

> what

> > > > they

> > > > are going through health wise, it makes you

> sad.

> >

> > > > Then

> > > > there are people who are saying no more

> weight

> > loss

> > > > and the fact that I can eat a hotdog

> including

> > the

> > > > bun...well now, it is starting to make me

> feel

>

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Pam Marsh

I don't know you, but I feel your a friend and I love people, family, friends and children, I just can't get enough of them. Even with my poor husbands illness, I still need to be happy and helping and thinking of others is one way I feel I help others, it makes me feel good inside. Hang in there you can do this. DonnaPamela A Marsh wrote:

Donna, you have encouraged me so very much and I wantto thank you. I got up just as I said I would 3:20and I did a 1.5 miles, had my protein drink at 4:30and still got out of the house at 5:00 to head towork. I had my B12, Calcium and will take my multiaround 9:00 and then the iron.Thank you so much for being here for me. I reallyappreciate it and sorry for leaning on you so much butI do appreciate you.Pam Marsh--- Donna Jordon wrote:> Pam> It's a new day, keep your spirits high and stay a> course, hugs to you. Donna> > Pamela A Marsh wrote:> Thank you Donna so much for your kind words. I am> sure that this is probably just a phase I am going> through so I will just stay the

course and go> through> this. In spite of...I have high hopes.> > Thanks again.> > Pam Marsh> > --- Donna Jordon wrote:> > > Pam Marsh> > Sounds to me like you need a big hug also. So> here> > is a hug for you. Your going through a lot but> > please take the vitamins so many bad things can> come> > of your not doing that. As far as SF stuff I> don't> > go crazy and it keeps me from wanting sugar, so> > again I have to say everyone has to listen to> their> > own body. Pam I hope things start going better> for> > you and you finish your weight lose, and take some> > time and get away even if it's just for a day with> a> > good friend. That's what made me feel better,> even> > though life is

still tough. Hang in there, and> > you're in my thoughts and prayers. Robynn you> > too!!! Donna> > > > Pamela A Marsh > wrote:> > Robynn, you and I talked in the office on Friday> and> > yes, I have some bad behaviours like the candy> that> > I> > ate at halloween (with no problems at all (yikes).> > > I> > to have carbs but in the form of potatoe but not> > much.> > The rice does not settle well and takes up too> much> > room in my stomach so I don't touch it anymore. I> > found that I can have honey and I do splurge on> > popcorn when my boys have it. Thank God for the> > sugar> > free popcicles (spelling) but I have found that it> > is> > really easy to go crazy and eat about five of>

those> > back to back. I remember Dr. Fisher telling us at> > the> > six month apt. to stay away from sugar free stuff> > because the artificle sweetners only cause us to> > crave> > more sugary stuff. I don't exercise and have not> in> > months. I have not been taking my vitamins like I> > am> > suppose to. I just feel like blah whatever that> is.> > > > I feel really bad for you Robynn especially since> I> > get to see you and look in your face. I see the> > things that people here only hear about but it is> > most> > difficult when you see it. I try to stay up beat> > about your situation because I know you need that> > type> > of support but I would be lying if I said I am not> > down about it. And then, there is our

coworker> > > > who has for whatever reason stopped all together> > with> > her surgery and I know it is her choice but again,> > when you are seeing the person and you know what> > they> > are going through health wise, it makes you sad. > > Then> > there are people who are saying no more weight> loss> > and the fact that I can eat a hotdog including the> > bun...well now, it is starting to make me feel> very> > unsure about if I will get these last 17 pounds> off> > or> > not. I mean deep down inside I know I will. I> > really> > don't feel like being bothered with> > anyone...including> > my husband. I just feel like I need to be> isolated> > to> > so that I can meditate and really hear from God. > I> > feel like I

am searching for something but really> > don't know exactly what it is. I don't know> > Robynn...I just don't know. What I can offer you> is> > continued listening and prayer and I am hoping> that> > that will be enough...but we both know it is going> > to> > take a lot more than that. Bug hug to you honey.> > > > Pam Marsh> > > > --- Robynn wrote:> > > > > Ok...I am not quite 5 months out yet (it will be> > > five months on the > > > 8th), and my weightloss finally slowed down. I> > > think I lost about 5 > > > or 6 lbs. in October...and I've been hovering at> > the> > > same weight (up > > > a lb. down a lb.) for two weeks now...> > > > > > this is my first "plateau". I have

consistently> > > lost weight every > > > week since I started. And it's fine if it is> just> > a> > > plateau...but I > > > have some bad behaviours that are starting up,> so> > I> > > need a little > > > help here.> > > > > > The past two weeks have been very very tough> > > emotionally. My husband > > > filed for divorce, and even though that was> coming> > > for a long while, > > > the reality of it is quite devastating. He is> > very> > > hurt and upset by > > > my relationship with (who can blame him),> and> > > he is unwilling to > > > stand by and let me date during our separation> > (even> > > though that was > > > what I had told him from day one.)

Steve has> been> > > my good friend for > > > 13 years. He is family. And now, I'm faced> with> > > the distinct > > > possibility that I will never see him again. > That> > > is killing me.> > > > > > On top of that, I'm dealing with the fact that> > > > > is probably > > > moving here in January, and I will be his sole> > > support for a hwile, > > > at least until it's legal for him to work. He's> > > trying to get a > > > student visa that will also let him work...that> > way> > > he can work on > > > his English, and get an additional certificate> or> > > two year > > > degree...and then he'll be at a better place to> > > secure a job.> > > > > > But the

whole thing is kind of freaking me out,> > now.> > > It feels so > > > fast..but everything with him is great...and> > > circumstances are > > > converging to make all of this come together.> > > > > > But Robynn is turning to carbs a bit, and is> > > emotionally eating. I > > > have done stupid things, like bought those> peanut> > > butter filled > > > pretzel bits from Trader Joe's. Went through a> > > whole bag in about a > > > week. Bought a second bag...and wound up> throwing> > > that away.> > > > === message truncated === __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.http://farechase.yahoo.comDonna JordonDSJordon@...

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Pam...

You are really one of the most empathetic people Iknow...and it means a lot to me that you love me enough to be bummed out because of my situation. But Sweetie...you can't take on this burden for me...this is something that was partly of my own making, and partly it is just what the fates have in store for me right now. I'd like to say it is what God's plan is for me, but it's a bit hard to imagine that he is ever involved in divroce...except maybe to ehlp comfort the parties involved.

I'll get through this...it's just the worst time right now...and it doesn't help to see gray skies, either.

While I am sad, I'm also blessed: with loving caring friends (like you and others on this board), a chance at a new life with this surgery, a wonderful new relationship...and a million other blessings besides. So, I just need to move through and live through it...

So, please...don't let your loving, empathetic feelings for me cause you to stumble or feel anything less than amazing. These are the trials that I am meant to overcome, and I'll emerge on the other side a stronger, wiser, more compassionate person.

But, thank you thank you thank you for your unfailing friendship and love. You are a precious jewel.

And Donna...thank you for really jumping in and providing counsel and support and encouragement to others. I have been feeling badly that I haven't been able to be as giving recently...and I worry about the newbies and my friends out there struggling. It makes me feel really good to see that they have you and Pam and and Caryl to give love and encouragement. If one or more of us falls, there are others who can pick up the mantle. That's a good feeling.

I love you all,

RobynnDonna Jordon wrote: