Depression (Was Re: My first plateau...For Robynn from Pam Marsh)

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You know, I can't help noticing that over the last couple of weeks

we're starting to get a lot more folks who are going thru really

difficult, down-in-the-dumps kind of funks. Now, all this is going

on at the same time that the weather is changing and getting cloudier

and more overcast; and it made me wonder about seasonal mood changes.

I know that some people who don't get enough natural sunlight in

winter can develop a season form of depression that can be

counteracted by getting more sunlight or full-spectrum light; and it

seems to me that a lot of people on this list are doing their

exercise on treadmills or whatever. Since post-op you're going

through a lot of other major physical/nutritional changes, could it

be that you're not getting enough Vitamin D or some such? It might be

worthwhile to try getting outside for a good solid 20-30 minutes or

more a day if you haven't been and seeing if that does anything to

drive away the blahs.

Cathy C.

>

> Good morning Ron, thank you for your kind words. Yes,

> it was yesterday. It was a very bad day for me

> yesterday. Yes, I was very sad and I had a couple of

> crying spells and I could not put my finger on it. I

> tossed things around in my head. I have the two

> sweetest boys in the world that I have NO problems

> with except they are autistic. My husband of 18 years

> is the best who I love dearly who always making sure I

> am okay. My job (I work with Robynn), I can't even

> complain. My size, I am loving it and feeling great

> in the body. So whats wrong with me. Donna said

> maybe depressed and I am in agreement with that

> although I did not want to admit it. So I am going to

> try and work through this. I got up at 3:20 to start

> back exercising and I am journaling what I am eating

> (been good with the exception of the candy I ate at

> halloween) but I had not been doing good with the

> vitamins and I had started skipping meals again. So I

> did the work out and took my am vitamins and I am

> getting in the water. I am usually fine when I am at

> work. Its on the weekends that I get in funks. I

> have to find something to keep me occupied. Thanks

> again for your support Ron and I will post about the

> good as well as about the bad. I just feel like I am

> being a burden if I post something that is not

> positive and so I have not outlet. I promise to not

> think this way because if I continue, I am going to

> crack in a big way and I can't afford to do that.

> Here is a big hug to you and thanks again.

>

> Pam Marsh

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Thanks Cathy, something to consider.

Pam Marsh

--- Cathy catic15@...> wrote:

> You know, I can't help noticing that over the last

> couple of weeks

> we're starting to get a lot more folks who are going

> thru really

> difficult, down-in-the-dumps kind of funks. Now,

> all this is going

> on at the same time that the weather is changing and

> getting cloudier

> and more overcast; and it made me wonder about

> seasonal mood changes.

>

> I know that some people who don't get enough natural

> sunlight in

> winter can develop a season form of depression that

> can be

> counteracted by getting more sunlight or

> full-spectrum light; and it

> seems to me that a lot of people on this list are

> doing their

> exercise on treadmills or whatever. Since post-op

> you're going

> through a lot of other major physical/nutritional

> changes, could it

> be that you're not getting enough Vitamin D or some

> such? It might be

> worthwhile to try getting outside for a good solid

> 20-30 minutes or

> more a day if you haven't been and seeing if that

> does anything to

> drive away the blahs.

>

> Cathy C.

>

>

> >

> > Good morning Ron, thank you for your kind words.

> Yes,

> > it was yesterday. It was a very bad day for me

> > yesterday. Yes, I was very sad and I had a couple

> of

> > crying spells and I could not put my finger on it.

> I

> > tossed things around in my head. I have the two

> > sweetest boys in the world that I have NO problems

> > with except they are autistic. My husband of 18

> years

> > is the best who I love dearly who always making

> sure I

> > am okay. My job (I work with Robynn), I can't

> even

> > complain. My size, I am loving it and feeling

> great

> > in the body. So whats wrong with me. Donna said

> > maybe depressed and I am in agreement with that

> > although I did not want to admit it. So I am

> going to

> > try and work through this. I got up at 3:20 to

> start

> > back exercising and I am journaling what I am

> eating

> > (been good with the exception of the candy I ate

> at

> > halloween) but I had not been doing good with the

> > vitamins and I had started skipping meals again.

> So I

> > did the work out and took my am vitamins and I am

> > getting in the water. I am usually fine when I am

> at

> > work. Its on the weekends that I get in funks. I

> > have to find something to keep me occupied.

> Thanks

> > again for your support Ron and I will post about

> the

> > good as well as about the bad. I just feel like I

> am

> > being a burden if I post something that is not

> > positive and so I have not outlet. I promise to

> not

> > think this way because if I continue, I am going

> to

> > crack in a big way and I can't afford to do that.

> > Here is a big hug to you and thanks again.

> >

> > Pam Marsh

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm sure the lack of sunlight is contributing, Cathy. I have some situational things that are also contributing, but I could probably be helped a bit by a little Vitamin D. Thanks for the suggestion...

RobynnCathy wrote:

You know, I can't help noticing that over the last couple of weeks we're starting to get a lot more folks who are going thru really difficult, down-in-the-dumps kind of funks. Now, all this is going on at the same time that the weather is changing and getting cloudier and more overcast; and it made me wonder about seasonal mood changes.I know that some people who don't get enough natural sunlight in winter can develop a season form of depression that can be counteracted by getting more sunlight or full-spectrum light; and it seems to me that a lot of people on this list are doing their exercise on treadmills or whatever. Since post-op you're going through a lot of other major physical/nutritional changes, could it be that you're not getting enough Vitamin D or some such? It might be worthwhile to try getting outside for a

good solid 20-30 minutes or more a day if you haven't been and seeing if that does anything to drive away the blahs.Cathy C.>> Good morning Ron, thank you for your kind words. Yes,> it was yesterday. It was a very bad day for me> yesterday. Yes, I was very sad and I had a couple of> crying spells and I could not put my finger on it. I> tossed things around in my head. I have the two> sweetest boys in the world that I have NO problems> with except they are autistic. My husband of 18 years> is the best who I love dearly who always making sure I> am okay. My job (I work with Robynn), I can't even> complain. My size, I am loving it and feeling great> in the body. So whats wrong with me. Donna said>

maybe depressed and I am in agreement with that> although I did not want to admit it. So I am going to> try and work through this. I got up at 3:20 to start> back exercising and I am journaling what I am eating> (been good with the exception of the candy I ate at> halloween) but I had not been doing good with the> vitamins and I had started skipping meals again. So I> did the work out and took my am vitamins and I am> getting in the water. I am usually fine when I am at> work. Its on the weekends that I get in funks. I> have to find something to keep me occupied. Thanks> again for your support Ron and I will post about the> good as well as about the bad. I just feel like I am> being a burden if I post something that is not> positive and so I have not outlet. I promise to not> think this way because if I continue, I am going

to> crack in a big way and I can't afford to do that. > Here is a big hug to you and thanks again.> > Pam Marsh

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Cathy

You're so right, that's why they tell us after surgery to walk, but really get outside and do it if you can. I believe it even said that in the binder. With my daycare, I'm outside every day and with all that's in my life I'm still up. So people this is worth a try. DonnaCathy wrote:

You know, I can't help noticing that over the last couple of weeks we're starting to get a lot more folks who are going thru really difficult, down-in-the-dumps kind of funks. Now, all this is going on at the same time that the weather is changing and getting cloudier and more overcast; and it made me wonder about seasonal mood changes.I know that some people who don't get enough natural sunlight in winter can develop a season form of depression that can be counteracted by getting more sunlight or full-spectrum light; and it seems to me that a lot of people on this list are doing their exercise on treadmills or whatever. Since post-op you're going through a lot of other major physical/nutritional changes, could it be that you're not getting enough Vitamin D or some such? It might be worthwhile to try getting outside for a

good solid 20-30 minutes or more a day if you haven't been and seeing if that does anything to drive away the blahs.Cathy C.>> Good morning Ron, thank you for your kind words. Yes,> it was yesterday. It was a very bad day for me> yesterday. Yes, I was very sad and I had a couple of> crying spells and I could not put my finger on it. I> tossed things around in my head. I have the two> sweetest boys in the world that I have NO problems> with except they are autistic. My husband of 18 years> is the best who I love dearly who always making sure I> am okay. My job (I work with Robynn), I can't even> complain. My size, I am loving it and feeling great> in the body. So whats wrong with me. Donna said>

maybe depressed and I am in agreement with that> although I did not want to admit it. So I am going to> try and work through this. I got up at 3:20 to start> back exercising and I am journaling what I am eating> (been good with the exception of the candy I ate at> halloween) but I had not been doing good with the> vitamins and I had started skipping meals again. So I> did the work out and took my am vitamins and I am> getting in the water. I am usually fine when I am at> work. Its on the weekends that I get in funks. I> have to find something to keep me occupied. Thanks> again for your support Ron and I will post about the> good as well as about the bad. I just feel like I am> being a burden if I post something that is not> positive and so I have not outlet. I promise to not> think this way because if I continue, I am going

to> crack in a big way and I can't afford to do that. > Here is a big hug to you and thanks again.> > Pam MarshDonna JordonDSJordon@...

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My husband used to go into a funk when it started getting dreary and slide in and out of one all winter. I had read about full spectrum lightbulbs but didn't think it would really make a difference. But I got some because I wanted better light for my needlework.

I was amazed. His mood really did improve, all winter long. Even his boss commented to me about it at the Christmas party that year. The bulbs are expensive but worth it.

Sheltie Pam

Depression (Was Re: My first plateau...For Robynn from Pam Marsh)

You know, I can't help noticing that over the last couple of weeks we're starting to get a lot more folks who are going thru really difficult, down-in-the-dumps kind of funks. Now, all this is going on at the same time that the weather is changing and getting cloudier and more overcast; and it made me wonder about seasonal mood changes.I know that some people who don't get enough natural sunlight in winter can develop a season form of depression that can be counteracted by getting more sunlight or full-spectrum light; and it seems to me that a lot of people on this list are doing their exercise on treadmills or whatever. Since post-op you're going through a lot of other major physical/nutritional changes, could it be that you're not getting enough Vitamin D or some such? It might be worthwhile to try getting outside for a good solid 20-30 minutes or more a day if you haven't been and seeing if that does anything to drive away the blahs.Cathy C.>> Good morning Ron, thank you for your kind words. Yes,> it was yesterday. It was a very bad day for me> yesterday. Yes, I was very sad and I had a couple of> crying spells and I could not put my finger on it. I> tossed things around in my head. I have the two> sweetest boys in the world that I have NO problems> with except they are autistic. My husband of 18 years> is the best who I love dearly who always making sure I> am okay. My job (I work with Robynn), I can't even> complain. My size, I am loving it and feeling great> in the body. So whats wrong with me. Donna said> maybe depressed and I am in agreement with that> although I did not want to admit it. So I am going to> try and work through this. I got up at 3:20 to start> back exercising and I am journaling what I am eating> (been good with the exception of the candy I ate at> halloween) but I had not been doing good with the> vitamins and I had started skipping meals again. So I> did the work out and took my am vitamins and I am> getting in the water. I am usually fine when I am at> work. Its on the weekends that I get in funks. I> have to find something to keep me occupied. Thanks> again for your support Ron and I will post about the> good as well as about the bad. I just feel like I am> being a burden if I post something that is not> positive and so I have not outlet. I promise to not> think this way because if I continue, I am going to> crack in a big way and I can't afford to do that. > Here is a big hug to you and thanks again.> > Pam Marsh

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Where do you get these special bulbs? I'm thinking about getting some

for my mom. She's been struggling with depression since my dad passed

away, and daylight savings (dark at 5PM!) is not helping. :-S

azurewinds@... wrote:

My husband used to go into a funk

when it started getting dreary and slide in and out of one all winter.

I had read about full spectrum lightbulbs but didn't think it would

really make a difference. But I got some because I wanted better light

for my needlework.

I was amazed. His mood really did

improve, all winter long. Even his boss commented to me about it at the

Christmas party that year. The bulbs are expensive but worth it.

Sheltie Pam

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Depression (Was Re: My first

plateau...For Robynn from Pam Marsh)

You know, I can't help noticing that over the last couple of

weeks

we're starting to get a lot more folks who are going thru really

difficult, down-in-the-dumps kind of funks. Now, all this is going

on at the same time that the weather is changing and getting cloudier

and more overcast; and it made me wonder about seasonal mood changes.

I know that some people who don't get enough natural sunlight in

winter can develop a season form of depression that can be

counteracted by getting more sunlight or full-spectrum light; and it

seems to me that a lot of people on this list are doing their

exercise on treadmills or whatever. Since post-op you're going

through a lot of other major physical/nutritional changes, could it

be that you're not getting enough Vitamin D or some such? It might be

worthwhile to try getting outside for a good solid 20-30 minutes or

more a day if you haven't been and seeing if that does anything to

drive away the blahs.

Cathy C.

>

> Good morning Ron, thank you for your kind words. Yes,

> it was yesterday. It was a very bad day for me

> yesterday. Yes, I was very sad and I had a couple of

> crying spells and I could not put my finger on it. I

> tossed things around in my head. I have the two

> sweetest boys in the world that I have NO problems

> with except they are autistic. My husband of 18 years

> is the best who I love dearly who always making sure I

> am okay. My job (I work with Robynn), I can't even

> complain. My size, I am loving it and feeling great

> in the body. So whats wrong with me. Donna said

> maybe depressed and I am in agreement with that

> although I did not want to admit it. So I am going to

> try and work through this. I got up at 3:20 to start

> back exercising and I am journaling what I am eating

> (been good with the exception of the candy I ate at

> halloween) but I had not been doing good with the

> vitamins and I had started skipping meals again. So I

> did the work out and took my am vitamins and I am

> getting in the water. I am usually fine when I am at

> work. Its on the weekends that I get in funks. I

> have to find something to keep me occupied. Thanks

> again for your support Ron and I will post about the

> good as well as about the bad. I just feel like I am

> being a burden if I post something that is not

> positive and so I have not outlet. I promise to not

> think this way because if I continue, I am going to

> crack in a big way and I can't afford to do that.

> Here is a big hug to you and thanks again.

>

> Pam Marsh

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I get mine here in Sacramento at a store called Light Bulb Plus. They are on auburn blvd right before it hits greenback. I've also seen them in lots of places on the internet. Here's the link to an article from the national mental health association. http://www.nmha.org/infoctr/factsheets/27.cfm

You can get light boxes for a really intense treatment but for Dann replacing the lamp where he always sat at home and his desk lamp at work was enough.

Pam

Depression (Was Re: My first plateau...For Robynn from Pam Marsh)

You know, I can't help noticing that over the last couple of weeks we're starting to get a lot more folks who are going thru really difficult, down-in-the-dumps kind of funks. Now, all this is going on at the same time that the weather is changing and getting cloudier and more overcast; and it made me wonder about seasonal mood changes.I know that some people who don't get enough natural sunlight in winter can develop a season form of depression that can be counteracted by getting more sunlight or full-spectrum light; and it seems to me that a lot of people on this list are doing their exercise on treadmills or whatever. Since post-op you're going through a lot of other major physical/nutritional changes, could it be that you're not getting enough Vitamin D or some such? It might be worthwhile to try getting outside for a good solid 20-30 minutes or more a day if you haven't been and seeing if that does anything to drive away the blahs.Cathy C.>> Good morning Ron, thank you for your kind words. Yes,> it was yesterday. It was a very bad day for me> yesterday. Yes, I was very sad and I had a couple of> crying spells and I could not put my finger on it. I> tossed things around in my head. I have the two> sweetest boys in the world that I have NO problems> with except they are autistic. My husband of 18 years> is the best who I love dearly who always making sure I> am okay. My job (I work with Robynn), I can't even> complain. My size, I am loving it and feeling great> in the body. So whats wrong with me. Donna said> maybe depressed and I am in agreement with that> although I did not want to admit it. So I am going to> try and work through this. I got up at 3:20 to start> back exercising and I am journaling what I am eating> (been good with the exception of the candy I ate at> halloween) but I had not been doing good with the> vitamins and I had started skipping meals again. So I> did the work out and took my am vitamins and I am> getting in the water. I am usually fine when I am at> work. Its on the weekends that I get in funks. I> have to find something to keep me occupied. Thanks> again for your support Ron and I will post about the> good as well as about the bad. I just feel like I am> being a burden if I post something that is not> positive and so I have not outlet. I promise to not> think this way because if I continue, I am going to> crack in a big way and I can't afford to do that. > Here is a big hug to you and thanks again.> > Pam Marsh