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Hi ... wrote:

Message: 11

Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:12:38 -0500

From: " Woodward, -GCM "

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Subject: RE: BC BS denying DS

The denial of the DS is nation wide through BC/BS and

has been for over

a

year.

Some state managed BC/BS policies may have missed the

nation wide

policy

exclusion and may have covered it when the policy

managers were

actually

suppose to deny the procedure. In addition, there are

some surgeons

who

inappropriately use the Gastric Bypass code to obtain

insurance

approval for

the DS. The reason for concern over this action is

that if BC/BS did

an

audit of your surgery or the surgeon, they may be able

to deny payment

-

leaving you financially responsible for the bill. I

have not heard of

this

actually happening, but I would not put it passed the

insurance

company.

Why are they denying coverage? The answer- under a

physician review,

BC/BS

determined that the DS was investigational. They have

concluded this

after

reviewing classic BPD research articles and the lack

of multiple

published

BPD/DS papers.

Hope this helps,

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

I tried going to the website cited in this message but

couldn't get through. Is this a practice that only

does the RNY?

I find this news interesting because Oregon Health

Sciences University's BCBS policy just BEGAN covering

WLS (both DS and RNY) in January of this year. AND,

Regence BC BS of Idaho just posted on their website

about their WLS policies, considering the RNY and DS

both acceptable.

I am wondering if anyone can point to an official

printed statement on the part of BC BS that shows

this?

ALSO, I notice that Aetna's investigational position

on the DS is only listed in a coverage policy

bulletin, not in any of their plan books. They say on

their website that CPB are " guidelines " and coverage

may vary on a case by case basis. Around 10 people on

our lists have had Aetna approve their DS while this

CPB has been posted. Perhaps on a case by case basis

BC BS will do the same.

becki

=====

Becki, near Portland, OR

BMI 50-ish, age 42

pre-op DS. hoping to get approval

through Aetna Traditional Choice

(fighting 'investigational' denial)

Consulted with Dr. on 3-13-01

psych ok, nutrition ok, beckeye_58@...

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Becky,

Try the following web site:

http://www.regence.com/trgmedpol/surgery/sur58.html

It should be about a 14 page document that I've read now - and am wondering

how it applies to my own case.

dina

RE: BC BS denying DS

The denial of the DS is nation wide through BC/BS and

has been for over

a

year.

Some state managed BC/BS policies may have missed the

nation wide

policy

exclusion and may have covered it when the policy

managers were

actually

suppose to deny the procedure. In addition, there are

some surgeons

who

inappropriately use the Gastric Bypass code to obtain

insurance

approval for

the DS. The reason for concern over this action is

that if BC/BS did

an

audit of your surgery or the surgeon, they may be able

to deny payment

-

leaving you financially responsible for the bill. I

have not heard of

this

actually happening, but I would not put it passed the

insurance

company.

Why are they denying coverage? The answer- under a

physician review,

BC/BS

determined that the DS was investigational. They have

concluded this

after

reviewing classic BPD research articles and the lack

of multiple

published

BPD/DS papers.

Hope this helps,

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

I tried going to the website cited in this message but

couldn't get through. Is this a practice that only

does the RNY?

I find this news interesting because Oregon Health

Sciences University's BCBS policy just BEGAN covering

WLS (both DS and RNY) in January of this year. AND,

Regence BC BS of Idaho just posted on their website

about their WLS policies, considering the RNY and DS

both acceptable.

I am wondering if anyone can point to an official

printed statement on the part of BC BS that shows

this?

ALSO, I notice that Aetna's investigational position

on the DS is only listed in a coverage policy

bulletin, not in any of their plan books. They say on

their website that CPB are " guidelines " and coverage

may vary on a case by case basis. Around 10 people on

our lists have had Aetna approve their DS while this

CPB has been posted. Perhaps on a case by case basis

BC BS will do the same.

becki

=====

Becki, near Portland, OR

BMI 50-ish, age 42

pre-op DS. hoping to get approval

through Aetna Traditional Choice

(fighting 'investigational' denial)

Consulted with Dr. on 3-13-01

psych ok, nutrition ok, beckeye_58@...

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I do have an official statement from BC/BS only stating their

unsubstantiated claim that the DS is investigational. I believe it to be

just another way to save/make money.

A question was asked if I am associated with a program that performs the DS,

currently my surgeon does not perform the DS. HOWEVER, I have been

responsible for the care of over 150 DS patients and believe it to be an

appropriate surgery for many people.

I hope I have help those who choose to fight for your right to have the DS.

Remember in your fight, the American Society for Bariatric Surgery has only

condemned two procedures and neither have been the DS.

Good luck and let me know if I can help!

G. Woodward, MPH, LCEP

Live Light, Program Director

Gulf Coast Medical Center

Biloxi, MS 39531

1-

www.gulfcoastmedicalcenter.com

RE: BC BS denying DS

The denial of the DS is nation wide through BC/BS and

has been for over

a

year.

Some state managed BC/BS policies may have missed the

nation wide

policy

exclusion and may have covered it when the policy

managers were

actually

suppose to deny the procedure. In addition, there are

some surgeons

who

inappropriately use the Gastric Bypass code to obtain

insurance

approval for

the DS. The reason for concern over this action is

that if BC/BS did

an

audit of your surgery or the surgeon, they may be able

to deny payment

-

leaving you financially responsible for the bill. I

have not heard of

this

actually happening, but I would not put it passed the

insurance

company.

Why are they denying coverage? The answer- under a

physician review,

BC/BS

determined that the DS was investigational. They have

concluded this

after

reviewing classic BPD research articles and the lack

of multiple

published

BPD/DS papers.

Hope this helps,

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

I tried going to the website cited in this message but

couldn't get through. Is this a practice that only

does the RNY?

I find this news interesting because Oregon Health

Sciences University's BCBS policy just BEGAN covering

WLS (both DS and RNY) in January of this year. AND,

Regence BC BS of Idaho just posted on their website

about their WLS policies, considering the RNY and DS

both acceptable.

I am wondering if anyone can point to an official

printed statement on the part of BC BS that shows

this?

ALSO, I notice that Aetna's investigational position

on the DS is only listed in a coverage policy

bulletin, not in any of their plan books. They say on

their website that CPB are " guidelines " and coverage

may vary on a case by case basis. Around 10 people on

our lists have had Aetna approve their DS while this

CPB has been posted. Perhaps on a case by case basis

BC BS will do the same.

becki

=====

Becki, near Portland, OR

BMI 50-ish, age 42

pre-op DS. hoping to get approval

through Aetna Traditional Choice

(fighting 'investigational' denial)

Consulted with Dr. on 3-13-01

psych ok, nutrition ok, beckeye_58@...

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