Re:warning, Christian content - S Long Post

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Every family has its burdens. We had one of another type. My husband's brother has made accusations about our family that are completely ridiculous. Anyone is their right mind would know it was not true. We never knew that his brother was jealous of my husband and hated it when we came back to PA to live. At first we lived in his grandmother's house which had not been lived in for nine years. Someone started an accusation that we had stole $50.000 that was in her Attic in Bearer on demand bonds. For 17 years this was discussed in the family. We did not find out until my father in law died 17 years after the accusation began. I was so hurt that anyone would think we stole anything. But his brother has continued to tell people this horrible lie. What you did was what any reasonable family or friend. I would have done the same

thing. hugs Judsy in PA About a year ago we started attending meetings of a fraternal organization that we have belonged to since 1963 when we lived in California.. Anyway we know they had a branch here in PA and I decided that after two and 1/2 years I wanted to get out and meet new people. When we first went to the meeting the Vice President asked if we new my brother in law and his wife. We told them that they were my husbands relatives but that not all families are close and we had not seen them for quite a while. The Vice President then said Oh well we really don't know them that well. Now to make this the short version. Last October there was a presidents meeting in Buffalo New York. My husband had been elected President and they wanted us to go.We told them we

were in no condition to drive this 611 mile trip. We then asked the people who were also attending the conference if we could ride with them. It was really clear that they preferred to ride alone. So we thought about how we could work this out. We figured out that if we drove to the halfway point and spent the night there we could then go the rest of the way. The Officers voted that this would be OK, So we went on our merry way thinking this was the solution to the problem. We stayed in the cheapest hotel the extra night that we were traveling. We only ate two meals a day and they were at the Mc's dollar menu and also Taco Bell. Our food bills were really low. Shortly before we left on the trip I had mentioned that I was really looking forward to this trip and that I thought of it as a vacation since being in the hospital for 2 1/2 years. You know how are words

come out wrong at times. What I meant to say was after the conference we would go across the bridge and do a little traveling there for a day or two depending how we/I was feeling. We did not submit any expenses for our Canada adventure. Just what they h ad told us to submit. The Vice President had a fit and said we were trying to cheat the organization. This was At the end of last October. At meeting another officer stated that we had discussed having to stop half way going and coming. That the hotel we stayed at was $59.00 which was cheap for New York and that Tahoe expenses for food were very very low. He then said I vote to approve the expenses as they were submitted. Since that time The Vice President has continued to very cold to us. I noticed that she changed tables when we sat down but there were new people attending and I thought they were friends. When we arrived

at the March meeting we heard her tell her husband that she would not give us the paperwork my husband was supposed auto receive. We continued to sit down in the only two seats which were ac cross from her, she abruptly got up and created a little scene going to the opposite end of the table to sit. After A bit my husband went to her and whispered to her are you still angry about our going to the Conference in New York. She glared at him and said yes she was still angry concerning that trip and was angry about other issues as well. At that point my husband went back to our seat and announced that he would need to resign as president because of the apparent hard feelings that continued since this conference. Since then we have tried to contact one of the member's that is on the Regional Counsel, I sent her and e-mail explaining that we were sorry that we had to resign but the apparent hard feelings were making it very

difficult for him to continue his term. Well she obviously spammed our e-mail and did not respond. I then opened my account in Outlook Express and then sent her the same e-mail with a read receipt request. We received no response from her. We went to the meeting place (Hosses Restaurant) and left the presidents material and mail with the manager and told him we would be unable to attend the meeting and would he please give the package to them. Needless to say his brother continues to spread malicious lies about us. There is nothing we can do about it. We even went into counseling for six months ago to figure out how we could handle this. I sorry that I have written such a long post. I guess I need to let out the hurt this has done to us. Bob and I are very honest God fearing people. There is no reason for them to have

accused us of such a horrible thing. We asked them why someone did not call the police when they allegedly thought we had stolen the alleged bonds. Now why would someone leave things in a unoccupied house for nine years. There answer was that they didn't want to get involved and that it was Bob's parents were the persons that were affected. I looked at them and said you have know this for 17 years and you never told us or questioned us about this, there answer was well it wasn't their problem. Needless to say we have not seen them since that time. But the hurt does not stop hurting and to bring it up to the Vice President which was an acquaintance of theirs just blows my mind. I am so deeply hurt I do not know words to express how I feel. We are the most honest God fearing people on this earth and for the life of me I can't understand why they made this stupid

accusation. Anyway it is obvious that this last situation at the meeting literally broke my heart. I did not know people could be so hateful. Thank God that I am able to pray and that the situation is in Gods hands. But the hurt is so deep. Hugs and Prayers Judy in PA

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Judy, I realize that the pain of this betrayal--not just by your b-i-l, but the people in the organization--will be difficult to overcome. It seems like the mob mentality occurs in many situations. At least one person in the group apparently knew better; it's a shame that more people didn't stand up for you. If it's any comfort, that doesn't sound like the kind of organization I'd care to join. Sort of like Groucho Marx's famous quote, in reverse. He said he wouldn't want to join any club that would have him for a member! Well, I wouldn't want to join any club with such petty, cowardly people. That said, I know that it still hurts, and you don't want people to believe those things about you. I am absolutely, 100% sure of this: even the cowards who didn't speak up for you don't believe it. And for the few ignorant folks that do believe it, no one with any sense will pay any attention to them anyway. You and your husband will no doubt be called to share your gifts elsewhere, when the time is right.

Gentle hugs for both of you,

Ramblin' Rose

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Reply-To: Neurosarcoidosis To: Neurosarcoidosis Subject: Re:warning, Christian content - S Long PostDate: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT)

Every family has its burdens. We had one of another type. My husband's brother has made accusations about our family that are completely ridiculous. Anyone is their right mind would know it was not true.

We never knew that his brother was jealous of my husband and hated it when we came back to PA to live. At first we lived in his grandmother's house which had not been lived in for nine years. Someone started an accusation that we had stole $50.000 that was in her Attic in Bearer on demand bonds. For 17 years this was discussed in the family. We did not find out until my father in law died 17 years after the accusation began.

I was so hurt that anyone would think we stole anything. But his brother has continued to tell people this horrible lie.

What you did was what any reasonable family or friend. I would have done the same thing.

hugs

Judsy in PA

About a year ago we started attending meetings of a fraternal organization that we have belonged to since 1963 when we lived in California.. Anyway we know they had a branch here in PA and I decided that after two and 1/2 years I wanted to get out and meet new people. When we first went to the meeting the Vice President asked if we new my brother in law and his wife. We told them that they were my husbands relatives but that not all families are close and we had not seen them for quite a while.

The Vice President then said Oh well we really don't know them that well.

Now to make this the short version. Last October there was a presidents meeting in Buffalo New York. My husband had been elected President and they wanted us to go.We told them we were in no condition to drive this 611 mile trip. We then asked the people who were also attending the conference if we could ride with them. It was really clear that they preferred to ride alone. So we thought about how we could work this out. We figured out that if we drove to the halfway point and spent the night there we could then go the rest of the way.

The Officers voted that this would be OK, So we went on our merry way thinking this was the solution to the problem. We stayed in the cheapest hotel the extra night that we were traveling. We only ate two meals a day and they were at the Mc's dollar menu and also Taco Bell. Our food bills were really low.

Shortly before we left on the trip I had mentioned that I was really looking forward to this trip and that I thought of it as a vacation since being in the hospital for 2 1/2 years.

You know how are words come out wrong at times. What I meant to say was after the conference we would go across the bridge and do a little traveling there for a day or two depending how we/I was feeling.

We did not submit any expenses for our Canada adventure. Just what they h ad told us to submit. The Vice President had a fit and said we were trying to cheat the organization. This was At the end of last October. At meeting another officer stated that we had discussed having to stop half way going and coming. That the hotel we stayed at was $59.00 which was cheap for New York and that Tahoe expenses for food were very very low. He then said I vote to approve the expenses as they were submitted.

Since that time The Vice President has continued to very cold to us. I noticed that she changed tables when we sat down but there were new people attending and I thought they were friends.

When we arrived at the March meeting we heard her tell her husband that she would not give us the paperwork my husband was supposed auto receive. We continued to sit down in the only two seats which were ac cross from her, she abruptly got up and created a little scene going to the opposite end of the table to sit.

After A bit my husband went to her and whispered to her are you still angry about our going to the Conference in New York. She glared at him and said yes she was still angry concerning that trip and was angry about other issues as well. At that point my husband went back to our seat and announced that he would need to resign as president because of the apparent hard feelings that continued since this conference.

Since then we have tried to contact one of the member's that is on the Regional Counsel, I sent her and e-mail explaining that we were sorry that we had to resign but the apparent hard feelings were making it very difficult for him to continue his term.

Well she obviously spammed our e-mail and did not respond. I then opened my account in Outlook Express and then sent her the same e-mail with a read receipt request.

We received no response from her.

We went to the meeting place (Hosses Restaurant) and left the presidents material and mail with the manager and told him we would be unable to attend the meeting and would he please give the package to them.

Needless to say his brother continues to spread malicious lies about us. There is nothing we can do about it. We even went into counseling for six months ago to figure out how we could handle this.

I sorry that I have written such a long post. I guess I need to let out the hurt this has done to us. Bob and I are very honest God fearing people. There is no reason for them to have accused us of such a horrible thing. We asked them why someone did not call the police when they allegedly thought we had stolen the alleged bonds. Now why would someone leave things in a unoccupied house for nine years.

There answer was that they didn't want to get involved and that it was Bob's parents were the persons that were affected. I looked at them and said you have know this for 17 years and you never told us or questioned us about this, there answer was well it wasn't their problem. Needless to say we have not seen them since that time.

But the hurt does not stop hurting and to bring it up to the Vice President which was an acquaintance of theirs just blows my mind.

I am so deeply hurt I do not know words to express how I feel. We are the most honest God fearing people on this earth and for the life of me I can't understand why they made this stupid accusation.

Anyway it is obvious that this last situation at the meeting literally broke my heart. I did not know people could be so hateful.

Thank God that I am able to pray and that the situation is in Gods hands.

But the hurt is so deep.

Hugs and Prayers

Judy in PA

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