Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 > As far as sugars are concerned, especially simple ones, they are a problem > > for both the DS and RNY eaters. 2 out of 3 gives the definite advantage to > > the DS! > > Not so - DSers can eat sugar with no problems, no illness, no dumping. I > believe more than one post-op here has posted that they eat sugar daily. > From what I've seen, it doesn't appear to impede weight loss. So make that 3 > out of 3. > > Michele Hi Michele, My impression is that while DSers don't have dumping (which only lasts for about 30 months for RNYers) I think that the real issue is absorption and indications are that we absorb 100% of simple sugars, which to me means once it's absorbed it can be a problem for DSers as well as RNYers. I mean for regain. Judith in Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:58:54 EST kateseidel@... writes: > And for whoever it is that likes to cut and paste my posts to other > groups as > proof that my surgery is a failure, please be sure to include my > email > address so people can ask me directly!! > > Kate > kateseidel@... Okay, why would someone cut and paste if they can refer people directly to this site? And who said you are a failure? If you are a failure because you occasionally slip, then we all probably fall into that category? I personally have referred people considering any wls to come to this site because it has wonderful information on how hard it is to make any surgery work. I don't see any of us as failures. Now if we didn't come here and get support and continued in our downward spiral, that could be a problem. I am hoping I misread the last part of your email. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:58:54 EST kateseidel@... writes: > And for whoever it is that likes to cut and paste my posts to other > groups as > proof that my surgery is a failure, please be sure to include my > email > address so people can ask me directly!! > > Kate > kateseidel@... Okay, why would someone cut and paste if they can refer people directly to this site? And who said you are a failure? If you are a failure because you occasionally slip, then we all probably fall into that category? I personally have referred people considering any wls to come to this site because it has wonderful information on how hard it is to make any surgery work. I don't see any of us as failures. Now if we didn't come here and get support and continued in our downward spiral, that could be a problem. I am hoping I misread the last part of your email. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 In a message dated 3/16/2003 7:32:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, loriowen@... writes: > Okay, why would someone cut and paste if they can refer people directly to > this site? ... I am hoping I misread the last part of your email. > Have no idea who did it, but apparently last October and November when I decided I wanted to lose the 8 lbs. I had regained (okay, I was obsessing about how much I *hated* having to work at anything), someone cut and pasted parts of my post to a predominantly RNY list to prove that DS surgery patients have regain problems and that the surgery can fail. I never have any problem with someone forwarding my posts - just doing it in a way that misrepresents the reality. So yeah, I do obsess from time to time about this 8 lbs., but in no way, shape or form, could I call my experience anything but a remarkable success!! There is definitely a contingent hell bent on proving the RNY is a better surgery than the DS (and vice versa for that matter). For me, I recommend them both! Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 In a message dated 3/16/2003 7:32:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, loriowen@... writes: > Okay, why would someone cut and paste if they can refer people directly to > this site? ... I am hoping I misread the last part of your email. > Have no idea who did it, but apparently last October and November when I decided I wanted to lose the 8 lbs. I had regained (okay, I was obsessing about how much I *hated* having to work at anything), someone cut and pasted parts of my post to a predominantly RNY list to prove that DS surgery patients have regain problems and that the surgery can fail. I never have any problem with someone forwarding my posts - just doing it in a way that misrepresents the reality. So yeah, I do obsess from time to time about this 8 lbs., but in no way, shape or form, could I call my experience anything but a remarkable success!! There is definitely a contingent hell bent on proving the RNY is a better surgery than the DS (and vice versa for that matter). For me, I recommend them both! Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Gee Kate I thought I was the only one who could eat that much now granted not all at one time but on the course of one day hell ya! My favorite is Hershey chocolate bars I could inhale them. Oh and don't forget the M & M's plain of course, knows what I am talking about. I do however have mechanical problems that let me do this because I am proximal and would dump if the food wasn't going into my old bypassesd stomach and I am transected too so this is not a sld. I feel all alone because I only know one or two others with a gastro gastric fistula. I am finding that I am taking my anger out on myself anyone else do that or am I the only sick one? I have to find healthier ways to vent my anger but eating works for now. I have given myself the permission to go on never ending last suppers until I have surgery. I guess cause I never got to have them 4 years ago I am doing it now. I actually had to loose weight to have surgery because I wanted it done lap and was told if I was over 350 I couldn't have it done. I am finding I eat due to fear, anxiety, and anger. My surgery even though I don't have an exact date set is only 2 months away and I am really scared. I don't know why but the fact that I have to start all over again in a way and the incision is going to be huge and I can't do hardly anything for 6-8 weeks. See I don't know what its like to deal with a huge incision because all of mine were done lap I know I mentioned this before except the spleen but that was a little open incision compared to what's going to be done. I will all let you know the date of my fistula repair possible revision? as soon as I get it set hopefully sometime towards the end of May. Like to do it one day after my 4 year anniversary. Kristy > Three days ago I realized sugar was once again in control of my life. There > was that day when I ate six ice cream sandwiches, followed by the day I ate > four king size candy bars, and 2 ice cream sandwiches (note to self - do not > buy the 48-pack box of ice cream sandiwiches at Costco no matter what a deal > they are). > > So.....today is Day 3 of no sugar. Each time I do this it gets a little bit > harder. I'm waiting for the boost of power I'll get from the superior " I am > strong and in control " emotions which should kick in sometime today. And not > that I like to live and die by the scale - but it is down 2 lbs. from three > days ago. This is a good thing. > > And for whoever it is that likes to cut and paste my posts to other groups as > proof that my surgery is a failure, please be sure to include my email > address so people can ask me directly!! > > Kate > kateseidel@a... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Gee Kate I thought I was the only one who could eat that much now granted not all at one time but on the course of one day hell ya! My favorite is Hershey chocolate bars I could inhale them. Oh and don't forget the M & M's plain of course, knows what I am talking about. I do however have mechanical problems that let me do this because I am proximal and would dump if the food wasn't going into my old bypassesd stomach and I am transected too so this is not a sld. I feel all alone because I only know one or two others with a gastro gastric fistula. I am finding that I am taking my anger out on myself anyone else do that or am I the only sick one? I have to find healthier ways to vent my anger but eating works for now. I have given myself the permission to go on never ending last suppers until I have surgery. I guess cause I never got to have them 4 years ago I am doing it now. I actually had to loose weight to have surgery because I wanted it done lap and was told if I was over 350 I couldn't have it done. I am finding I eat due to fear, anxiety, and anger. My surgery even though I don't have an exact date set is only 2 months away and I am really scared. I don't know why but the fact that I have to start all over again in a way and the incision is going to be huge and I can't do hardly anything for 6-8 weeks. See I don't know what its like to deal with a huge incision because all of mine were done lap I know I mentioned this before except the spleen but that was a little open incision compared to what's going to be done. I will all let you know the date of my fistula repair possible revision? as soon as I get it set hopefully sometime towards the end of May. Like to do it one day after my 4 year anniversary. Kristy > Three days ago I realized sugar was once again in control of my life. There > was that day when I ate six ice cream sandwiches, followed by the day I ate > four king size candy bars, and 2 ice cream sandwiches (note to self - do not > buy the 48-pack box of ice cream sandiwiches at Costco no matter what a deal > they are). > > So.....today is Day 3 of no sugar. Each time I do this it gets a little bit > harder. I'm waiting for the boost of power I'll get from the superior " I am > strong and in control " emotions which should kick in sometime today. And not > that I like to live and die by the scale - but it is down 2 lbs. from three > days ago. This is a good thing. > > And for whoever it is that likes to cut and paste my posts to other groups as > proof that my surgery is a failure, please be sure to include my email > address so people can ask me directly!! > > Kate > kateseidel@a... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 I do declare. People will use anything to prove their point. I personally support any one in their decision for any wls as long as they have done their research and they are doing it for the right reasons. Oh well. Sorry that happened to you. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:17:31 EST kateseidel@... writes: > In a message dated 3/16/2003 7:32:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, > loriowen@... writes: > > > Okay, why would someone cut and paste if they can refer people > directly to > > this site? ... I am hoping I misread the last part of your > email. > > > > Have no idea who did it, but apparently last October and November > when I > decided I wanted to lose the 8 lbs. I had regained (okay, I was > obsessing > about how much I *hated* having to work at anything), someone cut > and pasted > parts of my post to a predominantly RNY list to prove that DS > surgery > patients have regain problems and that the surgery can fail. I > never have > any problem with someone forwarding my posts - just doing it in a > way that > misrepresents the reality. > > So yeah, I do obsess from time to time about this 8 lbs., but in no > way, > shape or form, could I call my experience anything but a remarkable > success!! > There is definitely a contingent hell bent on proving the RNY is a > better > surgery than the DS (and vice versa for that matter). For me, I > recommend > them both! > > Kate > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 I do declare. People will use anything to prove their point. I personally support any one in their decision for any wls as long as they have done their research and they are doing it for the right reasons. Oh well. Sorry that happened to you. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:17:31 EST kateseidel@... writes: > In a message dated 3/16/2003 7:32:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, > loriowen@... writes: > > > Okay, why would someone cut and paste if they can refer people > directly to > > this site? ... I am hoping I misread the last part of your > email. > > > > Have no idea who did it, but apparently last October and November > when I > decided I wanted to lose the 8 lbs. I had regained (okay, I was > obsessing > about how much I *hated* having to work at anything), someone cut > and pasted > parts of my post to a predominantly RNY list to prove that DS > surgery > patients have regain problems and that the surgery can fail. I > never have > any problem with someone forwarding my posts - just doing it in a > way that > misrepresents the reality. > > So yeah, I do obsess from time to time about this 8 lbs., but in no > way, > shape or form, could I call my experience anything but a remarkable > success!! > There is definitely a contingent hell bent on proving the RNY is a > better > surgery than the DS (and vice versa for that matter). For me, I > recommend > them both! > > Kate > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 In a message dated 3/17/2003 12:23:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, vitalady@... writes: > I have yet to meet a perfect one of us, you know? I can define imperfect by > looking into a mirror I am always proud to be a member of the imperfects. I hope to never graduate. Fay Bayuk " 300/172 " 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 In a message dated 3/17/2003 12:23:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, vitalady@... writes: > I have yet to meet a perfect one of us, you know? I can define imperfect by > looking into a mirror I am always proud to be a member of the imperfects. I hope to never graduate. Fay Bayuk " 300/172 " 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 In a message dated 3/16/2003 9:41:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, loriowen@... writes: > parts of my post to a predominantly RNY list to prove that DS > >surgery > >patients have regain problems and that the surgery can fail. I > >never have > >any problem with someone forwarding my posts - just doing it in a > >way that > >misrepresents the reality. > Now, you see why TV news is not real. They can cut and paste to prove any point of view. That is why our own research is so important. When I read the AMOS board and they say no one told me, I feel sad for the poster. That is why I like a good controversy on this board. You get to hear all you need to about lightbulbs so that you can seriously do more research to form a bit of an opinion. Fay Bayuk " 300/172 " 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 In a message dated 3/16/2003 9:41:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, loriowen@... writes: > parts of my post to a predominantly RNY list to prove that DS > >surgery > >patients have regain problems and that the surgery can fail. I > >never have > >any problem with someone forwarding my posts - just doing it in a > >way that > >misrepresents the reality. > Now, you see why TV news is not real. They can cut and paste to prove any point of view. That is why our own research is so important. When I read the AMOS board and they say no one told me, I feel sad for the poster. That is why I like a good controversy on this board. You get to hear all you need to about lightbulbs so that you can seriously do more research to form a bit of an opinion. Fay Bayuk " 300/172 " 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Staying up again to create new words????? Fay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Staying up again to create new words????? Fay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 You'd have to score me as a failure, too, then. Regain twice. Peeps #1 (sober 3 yrs now), and fruit, which was none too good in itself, but set me off on a carb rampage that I had to wrestle to the ground. I have yet to meet a perfect one of us, you know? I can define imperfect by looking into a mirror. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: Sugar > > On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:58:54 EST kateseidel@... writes: > > And for whoever it is that likes to cut and paste my posts to other > > groups as > > proof that my surgery is a failure, please be sure to include my > > email > > address so people can ask me directly!! > > > > Kate > > kateseidel@... > > > Okay, why would someone cut and paste if they can refer people directly > to this site? And who said you are a failure? If you are a failure > because you occasionally slip, then we all probably fall into that > category? I personally have referred people considering any wls to come > to this site because it has wonderful information on how hard it is to > make any surgery work. I don't see any of us as failures. Now if we > didn't come here and get support and continued in our downward spiral, > that could be a problem. I am hoping I misread the last part of your > email. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. > SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. > Current Weight 335 > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 You'd have to score me as a failure, too, then. Regain twice. Peeps #1 (sober 3 yrs now), and fruit, which was none too good in itself, but set me off on a carb rampage that I had to wrestle to the ground. I have yet to meet a perfect one of us, you know? I can define imperfect by looking into a mirror. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: Sugar > > On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:58:54 EST kateseidel@... writes: > > And for whoever it is that likes to cut and paste my posts to other > > groups as > > proof that my surgery is a failure, please be sure to include my > > email > > address so people can ask me directly!! > > > > Kate > > kateseidel@... > > > Okay, why would someone cut and paste if they can refer people directly > to this site? And who said you are a failure? If you are a failure > because you occasionally slip, then we all probably fall into that > category? I personally have referred people considering any wls to come > to this site because it has wonderful information on how hard it is to > make any surgery work. I don't see any of us as failures. Now if we > didn't come here and get support and continued in our downward spiral, > that could be a problem. I am hoping I misread the last part of your > email. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. > SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. > Current Weight 335 > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Yeah, I guess that would kinda abruptly end the learning curve, wouldn't it? Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: Sugar > In a message dated 3/17/2003 12:23:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, > vitalady@... writes: > > > I have yet to meet a perfect one of us, you know? I can define imperfect by > > looking into a mirror > > I am always proud to be a member of the imperfects. I hope to never > graduate. > > > Fay Bayuk > " 300/172 " > 10/23/01 > Dr. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Yeah, I guess that would kinda abruptly end the learning curve, wouldn't it? Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: Sugar > In a message dated 3/17/2003 12:23:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, > vitalady@... writes: > > > I have yet to meet a perfect one of us, you know? I can define imperfect by > > looking into a mirror > > I am always proud to be a member of the imperfects. I hope to never > graduate. > > > Fay Bayuk > " 300/172 " > 10/23/01 > Dr. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Just a disclaimer here, this is not my quote. I only replied. Notice smirk on face and almost inaudible chuckle. Lori O. On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 03:51:46 EST FBayuk@... writes: In a message dated 3/16/2003 9:41:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, loriowen@... writes: parts of my post to a predominantly RNY list to prove that DS >surgery >patients have regain problems and that the surgery can fail. I >never have >any problem with someone forwarding my posts - just doing it in a >way that >misrepresents the reality. Now, you see why TV news is not real. They can cut and paste to prove any point of view. That is why our own research is so important. When I read the AMOS board and they say no one told me, I feel sad for the poster. That is why I like a good controversy on this board. You get to hear all you need to about lightbulbs so that you can seriously do more research to form a bit of an opinion. Fay Bayuk " 300/172 " 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Just a disclaimer here, this is not my quote. I only replied. Notice smirk on face and almost inaudible chuckle. Lori O. On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 03:51:46 EST FBayuk@... writes: In a message dated 3/16/2003 9:41:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, loriowen@... writes: parts of my post to a predominantly RNY list to prove that DS >surgery >patients have regain problems and that the surgery can fail. I >never have >any problem with someone forwarding my posts - just doing it in a >way that >misrepresents the reality. Now, you see why TV news is not real. They can cut and paste to prove any point of view. That is why our own research is so important. When I read the AMOS board and they say no one told me, I feel sad for the poster. That is why I like a good controversy on this board. You get to hear all you need to about lightbulbs so that you can seriously do more research to form a bit of an opinion. Fay Bayuk " 300/172 " 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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