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In a message dated 09/09/2001 12:54:27 PM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< Hi everyone... Geez.. were you guys ever busy..... lOL I was only gone 3

days and have 350 posts to read..... Don't think I'll ever get caught up

now. >>

, I was not on line last week trying to stay glued to the TV and get

ready for the Religious Ed class I', teaching on Wednesday's. I have 839

messages to go thru!!!!!!!!!11 I'll be doing this forever!!! There has to

be a better way! Doesn't there? Love, Judy

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In a message dated 09/09/2001 12:54:27 PM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< Hi everyone... Geez.. were you guys ever busy..... lOL I was only gone 3

days and have 350 posts to read..... Don't think I'll ever get caught up

now. >>

, I was not on line last week trying to stay glued to the TV and get

ready for the Religious Ed class I', teaching on Wednesday's. I have 839

messages to go thru!!!!!!!!!11 I'll be doing this forever!!! There has to

be a better way! Doesn't there? Love, Judy

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In a message dated 9/17/01 2:40:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JOstry93@...

writes:

<< TV and get

ready for the Religious Ed class I', teaching on Wednesday's. I have 839

messages to go thru!!!!!!!!!11 I'll be doing this forever!!! There has to

be a better way! Doesn't there? Love, Judy

>>

Judy, the only easier way is to just hit " delete " LOL But I'm too nosey to

do that. LOL

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In a message dated 9/17/01 2:40:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JOstry93@...

writes:

<< TV and get

ready for the Religious Ed class I', teaching on Wednesday's. I have 839

messages to go thru!!!!!!!!!11 I'll be doing this forever!!! There has to

be a better way! Doesn't there? Love, Judy

>>

Judy, the only easier way is to just hit " delete " LOL But I'm too nosey to

do that. LOL

hugs

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In a message dated 09/18/2001 3:18:15 AM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< only easier way is to just hit " delete " LOL But I'm too nosey to

do that. LOL >>

, I tried just reading them, but you know my big mouth, I had to keep

putting my two cents in, so to put it mildly, it was not a quick process! I

did delete about 80% of them, an am working on the rest! What's the

difference if you go on " digest " ? Would that be any better? How are you

doing? How are your feet? Is the antbiotic protocol still working? Geea, I

wish you lived closer. Remember how nice Chicago is? It's a nice place to

live, hint, hint, hint! Love,Judy

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In a message dated 09/18/2001 3:18:15 AM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< only easier way is to just hit " delete " LOL But I'm too nosey to

do that. LOL >>

, I tried just reading them, but you know my big mouth, I had to keep

putting my two cents in, so to put it mildly, it was not a quick process! I

did delete about 80% of them, an am working on the rest! What's the

difference if you go on " digest " ? Would that be any better? How are you

doing? How are your feet? Is the antbiotic protocol still working? Geea, I

wish you lived closer. Remember how nice Chicago is? It's a nice place to

live, hint, hint, hint! Love,Judy

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In a message dated 9/18/01 4:32:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JOstry93@...

writes:

<< What's the

difference if you go on " digest " ? Would that be any better? >>

Judy, I have never been to Chicago, so I don't know how nice it is.. Lu has

and she loves it...

So far the AP is working well... although my left ear is starting to do a

mini flare today. I had one other last week in my ribs.. but besides that,

I'm doing great. I go to my GP tomorrow... Hopefully he will renew the

prescription for the Biaxin.

As for digest... YOu will get 25 posts on one e mail. So depending on the

number of posts each day, that will determine how many digests you get.

(Don't think that made much sense) If there are 100 posts for the day.....

you will receive 4 digests with 25 posts on each.

Is it better? That's a personal preference... You can scan down and read

all the posts.... Try it if you want and see if you like it better, you can

always change back.

See, I'm answering you again and our total for the day is adding up. LOL

I miss you too.. Wish we had more time together... Hang in there... things

will get better... AND if you really want something to do about the darn

RP.... just volunteer for a position on the Foundation... That will keep you

busy.... AND it will help us out too...

hugs

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In a message dated 9/18/01 4:32:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JOstry93@...

writes:

<< What's the

difference if you go on " digest " ? Would that be any better? >>

Judy, I have never been to Chicago, so I don't know how nice it is.. Lu has

and she loves it...

So far the AP is working well... although my left ear is starting to do a

mini flare today. I had one other last week in my ribs.. but besides that,

I'm doing great. I go to my GP tomorrow... Hopefully he will renew the

prescription for the Biaxin.

As for digest... YOu will get 25 posts on one e mail. So depending on the

number of posts each day, that will determine how many digests you get.

(Don't think that made much sense) If there are 100 posts for the day.....

you will receive 4 digests with 25 posts on each.

Is it better? That's a personal preference... You can scan down and read

all the posts.... Try it if you want and see if you like it better, you can

always change back.

See, I'm answering you again and our total for the day is adding up. LOL

I miss you too.. Wish we had more time together... Hang in there... things

will get better... AND if you really want something to do about the darn

RP.... just volunteer for a position on the Foundation... That will keep you

busy.... AND it will help us out too...

hugs

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In a message dated 09/18/2001 8:08:15 PM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< . just volunteer for a position on the Foundation >>

What did you have in mind? I can already hear the arguments going on in my

head: CCD class takes lots of time (probably because I'm a rookie, next year

I'll probably be able to do it in my sleep, but for now, it is a lot of work.

And I HAVE to get my book finished. It was finished but I had to make

changes...you know how it goes. I want to get it to a publisher this

year...I hope! So, do you have anything that doesn't take a lot of time or

money? Funds are becoming ver limited now that I'm on full time disabality.

Bought my computer this morning (almost the last of my savings, but I really

nee my own). I got a Dell Pentium 4 with a 17 " monitor and a free year of

msn (so I can eliminate all the annoying aol commerials!) So as soon s I get

set up with the new one in my office, I won't be on aol anymore - not that I

am going to miss it. I wonder if the new computer will actually allow me to

get into chat? What do you think?

And now we know why I have so many messages that I can't get thru in one day!

If I would shut my big mouth, maybe I could! Love ya'Judy

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In a message dated 09/18/2001 8:08:15 PM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< . just volunteer for a position on the Foundation >>

What did you have in mind? I can already hear the arguments going on in my

head: CCD class takes lots of time (probably because I'm a rookie, next year

I'll probably be able to do it in my sleep, but for now, it is a lot of work.

And I HAVE to get my book finished. It was finished but I had to make

changes...you know how it goes. I want to get it to a publisher this

year...I hope! So, do you have anything that doesn't take a lot of time or

money? Funds are becoming ver limited now that I'm on full time disabality.

Bought my computer this morning (almost the last of my savings, but I really

nee my own). I got a Dell Pentium 4 with a 17 " monitor and a free year of

msn (so I can eliminate all the annoying aol commerials!) So as soon s I get

set up with the new one in my office, I won't be on aol anymore - not that I

am going to miss it. I wonder if the new computer will actually allow me to

get into chat? What do you think?

And now we know why I have so many messages that I can't get thru in one day!

If I would shut my big mouth, maybe I could! Love ya'Judy

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  • 4 years later...

Hell all

Well, it has been the last three days from hell. I had the surgery

on November 7th at Fremont. I came home feeling as though I had not

had the surgery at all )Great!)until late Friday afternoon. I

started to have pain below where the major incision of the six were.

Believe me I did not do anything I wasn't suppose to do It did

everything by the book. It got so I could not move without

excruciating pain (Like my insides were tearing). When we spoke with

Fremont they said to get to emergency immediately. So, off to Kaiser

South I went. Eventhough the staff went above and beyond they had not

a clue how to treat something like this far less what was causing

it. I had to drink four 12oz glasses of liquid laced with apple

juice so that I could have a CT scan. Well, after that they found a

hematoma. They came to the conclusion that that was causing the pain

or maybe a tear in the abdominal muscle. They put me on Morphone and

plenty of rest. Today I am home. My only gripe is that I wish I

could have been closer to Fremont where they could take care of this

problem first hand. I have never felt such pain in my life (even

during child birth) I have an immense tolerance to pain but I think

that the pain plus not knowing just made it horrendous.

My follow up visit with Dr. Hahn is December 2nd. Let's see how it

goes until then.

I gained weight when I was in the hospital for the surgery bit lost

most of it that week then while I was in the hospital the second time

I gained weight again. I though, this is not the way it is suppose

to work!

So I have not lost any weight yet. Maybe I am hoping for too much,

Too soon.

I am not posting this to scare anyone only to help in things that

could go wrong.

I do hope and pray that you are all doing well.

Hugs

Patrice

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Patrice-

Gosh i am so sorry you had that problem a woman from the Vacaville support group had a problem like that with a hematoma and was miserable on and off for like the first 4-6 weeks but now she is happy and glad she had the surgery and you would never guess from looking at ther that she ever had a weight problem ! good thoughts to you

Colleen and Patrice Betancur wrote:

Hell allWell, it has been the last three days from hell. I had the surgery on November 7th at Fremont. I came home feeling as though I had not had the surgery at all )Great!)until late Friday afternoon. I started to have pain below where the major incision of the six were. Believe me I did not do anything I wasn't suppose to do It did everything by the book. It got so I could not move without excruciating pain (Like my insides were tearing). When we spoke with Fremont they said to get to emergency immediately. So, off to Kaiser South I went. Eventhough the staff went above and beyond they had not a clue how to treat something like this far less what was causing it. I had to drink four 12oz glasses of liquid laced with apple juice so that I could have a CT scan. Well, after

that they found a hematoma. They came to the conclusion that that was causing the pain or maybe a tear in the abdominal muscle. They put me on Morphone and plenty of rest. Today I am home. My only gripe is that I wish I could have been closer to Fremont where they could take care of this problem first hand. I have never felt such pain in my life (even during child birth) I have an immense tolerance to pain but I think that the pain plus not knowing just made it horrendous.My follow up visit with Dr. Hahn is December 2nd. Let's see how it goes until then.I gained weight when I was in the hospital for the surgery bit lost most of it that week then while I was in the hospital the second time I gained weight again. I though, this is not the way it is suppose to work!So I have not lost any weight yet. Maybe I am hoping for too much, Too soon.I am not posting

this to scare anyone only to help in things that could go wrong.I do hope and pray that you are all doing well.HugsPatrice

Colleen

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Sorry you had such a hard time. Please remember though, if you had

an IV each time you were in the hospital...thats the weight gain.

They pump so much water into you. I hope you feel better really soon.

Huggles

>

> Hell all

>

> Well, it has been the last three days from hell. I had the

surgery

> on November 7th at Fremont. I came home feeling as though I had

not

> had the surgery at all )Great!)until late Friday afternoon. I

> started to have pain below where the major incision of the six

were.

> Believe me I did not do anything I wasn't suppose to do It did

> everything by the book. It got so I could not move without

> excruciating pain (Like my insides were tearing). When we spoke

with

> Fremont they said to get to emergency immediately. So, off to

Kaiser

> South I went. Eventhough the staff went above and beyond they had

not

> a clue how to treat something like this far less what was causing

> it. I had to drink four 12oz glasses of liquid laced with apple

> juice so that I could have a CT scan. Well, after that they found

a

> hematoma. They came to the conclusion that that was causing the

pain

> or maybe a tear in the abdominal muscle. They put me on Morphone

and

> plenty of rest. Today I am home. My only gripe is that I wish I

> could have been closer to Fremont where they could take care of

this

> problem first hand. I have never felt such pain in my life (even

> during child birth) I have an immense tolerance to pain but I

think

> that the pain plus not knowing just made it horrendous.

> My follow up visit with Dr. Hahn is December 2nd. Let's see how

it

> goes until then.

> I gained weight when I was in the hospital for the surgery bit

lost

> most of it that week then while I was in the hospital the second

time

> I gained weight again. I though, this is not the way it is

suppose

> to work!

> So I have not lost any weight yet. Maybe I am hoping for too

much,

> Too soon.

>

> I am not posting this to scare anyone only to help in things that

> could go wrong.

>

> I do hope and pray that you are all doing well.

>

> Hugs

>

> Patrice

>

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Thank you Donna. I know that I was in the best of hands and never doubted them or their work for one second. I have nothing but praise for all the team.

This is why it is so important to become knowledable about the surgery and the complications before going into it. Eventhough I was scared to death. I know if wasn't due to negligence.

Thank you all for your prayers and wish me well.

Hugs and Respect to you all

Trice

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>

> Hell all

>

> Well, it has been the last three days from hell. I had the surgery

> on November 7th at Fremont. I came home feeling as though I had

not

> had the surgery at all )Great!)until late Friday afternoon. I

> started to have pain below where the major incision of the six

were.

> Believe me I did not do anything I wasn't suppose to do It did

> everything by the book. It got so I could not move without

> excruciating pain (Like my insides were tearing). When we spoke

with

> Fremont they said to get to emergency immediately. So, off to

Kaiser

> South I went. Eventhough the staff went above and beyond they had

not

> a clue how to treat something like this far less what was causing

> it. I had to drink four 12oz glasses of liquid laced with apple

> juice so that I could have a CT scan. Well, after that they found

a

> hematoma. They came to the conclusion that that was causing the

pain

> or maybe a tear in the abdominal muscle. They put me on Morphone

and

> plenty of rest. Today I am home. My only gripe is that I wish I

> could have been closer to Fremont where they could take care of

this

> problem first hand. I have never felt such pain in my life (even

> during child birth) I have an immense tolerance to pain but I

think

> that the pain plus not knowing just made it horrendous.

> My follow up visit with Dr. Hahn is December 2nd. Let's see how it

> goes until then.

> I gained weight when I was in the hospital for the surgery bit lost

> most of it that week then while I was in the hospital the second

time

> I gained weight again. I though, this is not the way it is suppose

> to work!

> So I have not lost any weight yet. Maybe I am hoping for too

much,

> Too soon.

>

> I am not posting this to scare anyone only to help in things that

> could go wrong.

>

> I do hope and pray that you are all doing well.

>

> Hugs

>

> Patrice

>

that sounds horrible....glad you are doing better......i didn't know

they did surgery in Fremont........i live in Hayward......

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Hi Francisco ! Wow my email is so overwhelming right now and i cant readd 600 pieces of mail, my internet is going whacky lately, but today i got back online and started to read, i was so surprised to see your posts, let me just say that its a christmas gift to have you back in the posts. You have touched so many lives and gave people so much help and guidance ( including me) that I just want you to know that your post gave me a warm fuzzy feeling..................its sort of like a letter from mom or dad when your a kid away at camp or something ............if that makes sense, just like the other day when Kay posted it was so nice to hear from her too. I think your church sounds really special and so community oriented it must be nice to have a place like that to feel good about, be at and help you to do good things for others. I have always enjoyed your willingness to share your

life with us and hope you still do that. This group is a nice place to be able to go to when you need it and know that someone in here is going to care and try to help you.....................it can get overwhelming at times but like you did and i sometimes do, i just take mini vacations or breaks........................... I am going to light a candle for you tomorrow, its too late tonight ! because you do that so unselfishly for others :)....................... welcome back HUGS Colleen Vacaville 283 before surgery 251 Day of surgery ( 2-10-05) enjoying life ,happier and healthier ! today 158 pounds, hoping to get to 145sfmaniso1 wrote: Hello everyone:It's me

Francisco. For those of you who don't know me, I had open RNY at Kaiser Richmond on June 3, 2003. As a result, I lost 153 lbs, and my life has been forever transformed.Through this journey, I have parted ways with several friends, but the new ones in my life have more than made up for the loss. I also took some time away from this group over a controversy regarding my sexual orientation. Let me just put it out there. I'm a gay man, and I attempt to live my life openly and honestly. Honesty with myself and others is a KEY aspect of my recovery from morbid obesity. As such, I talk about dating and love in terms that are relevant to me; I don't switch genders referring to "she/her" when I mean "he/him." I have always discussed these relationship issues with respectful and sensitive language. I have deep respect for all who belong to this group. I would hope that that same

respect would be returned to me. If not, I have no place here.I also belong to a church that ministers to primarily gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered people, but also some straight people too. This beloved community influences me in a deeply spiritual way. I have found a spiritual home there where I am loved, accepted for who I am, and soulfully nourished by a good-hearted people who work for social justice. We provide meals for the homeless, we partner with schools to provide materials for kids who don't always have enough, we do a shower project for the homeless so that they can bathe in a safe environment, get fresh clothing and toiletries, and have access to social services. This Christmas, my church is partnering with the Homeless Children's Network to provide gifts to kids who have been sheltered from abusive situations. The gratitude we experience and the connection we feel

to God has called us to action to make positive changes, however grand or slight, to make the world a better place, even if it just one person at a time. So from time to time, I will mention God, the Divine or a Higher Power. However, I am respectful of all paths to spirituality, whatever they be, even if it is no belief in a higher power at all.There is so much loss and sorrow that surrounds this process, but the joy I have experienced has far outweighed the sadness. I have experience joy and beauty that I never knew existed. My soul used to have this constant yearning, a deep hunger. Food could never fill that void the way love has. The deepest desire of my heart, my most passionate prayer was to have this burden of morbid obesity removed from me. God heard my cries of desperation and took away my pain. For that gift, I will be eternally grateful.So I find myself, once

again reflecting on my life, and I feel the need to come home to a place that was so instrumental to my ongoing success. I hope that you all are well. And I hope that I can feel safe here once again.Francisco

Colleen

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Hi Francisco ! Wow my email is so overwhelming right now and i cant readd 600 pieces of mail, my internet is going whacky lately, but today i got back online and started to read, i was so surprised to see your posts, let me just say that its a christmas gift to have you back in the posts. You have touched so many lives and gave people so much help and guidance ( including me) that I just want you to know that your post gave me a warm fuzzy feeling..................its sort of like a letter from mom or dad when your a kid away at camp or something ............if that makes sense, just like the other day when Kay posted it was so nice to hear from her too. I think your church sounds really special and so community oriented it must be nice to have a place like that to feel good about, be at and help you to do good things for others. I have always enjoyed your willingness to share your

life with us and hope you still do that. This group is a nice place to be able to go to when you need it and know that someone in here is going to care and try to help you.....................it can get overwhelming at times but like you did and i sometimes do, i just take mini vacations or breaks........................... I am going to light a candle for you tomorrow, its too late tonight ! because you do that so unselfishly for others :)....................... welcome back HUGS Colleen Vacaville 283 before surgery 251 Day of surgery ( 2-10-05) enjoying life ,happier and healthier ! today 158 pounds, hoping to get to 145sfmaniso1 wrote: Hello everyone:It's me

Francisco. For those of you who don't know me, I had open RNY at Kaiser Richmond on June 3, 2003. As a result, I lost 153 lbs, and my life has been forever transformed.Through this journey, I have parted ways with several friends, but the new ones in my life have more than made up for the loss. I also took some time away from this group over a controversy regarding my sexual orientation. Let me just put it out there. I'm a gay man, and I attempt to live my life openly and honestly. Honesty with myself and others is a KEY aspect of my recovery from morbid obesity. As such, I talk about dating and love in terms that are relevant to me; I don't switch genders referring to "she/her" when I mean "he/him." I have always discussed these relationship issues with respectful and sensitive language. I have deep respect for all who belong to this group. I would hope that that same

respect would be returned to me. If not, I have no place here.I also belong to a church that ministers to primarily gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered people, but also some straight people too. This beloved community influences me in a deeply spiritual way. I have found a spiritual home there where I am loved, accepted for who I am, and soulfully nourished by a good-hearted people who work for social justice. We provide meals for the homeless, we partner with schools to provide materials for kids who don't always have enough, we do a shower project for the homeless so that they can bathe in a safe environment, get fresh clothing and toiletries, and have access to social services. This Christmas, my church is partnering with the Homeless Children's Network to provide gifts to kids who have been sheltered from abusive situations. The gratitude we experience and the connection we feel

to God has called us to action to make positive changes, however grand or slight, to make the world a better place, even if it just one person at a time. So from time to time, I will mention God, the Divine or a Higher Power. However, I am respectful of all paths to spirituality, whatever they be, even if it is no belief in a higher power at all.There is so much loss and sorrow that surrounds this process, but the joy I have experienced has far outweighed the sadness. I have experience joy and beauty that I never knew existed. My soul used to have this constant yearning, a deep hunger. Food could never fill that void the way love has. The deepest desire of my heart, my most passionate prayer was to have this burden of morbid obesity removed from me. God heard my cries of desperation and took away my pain. For that gift, I will be eternally grateful.So I find myself, once

again reflecting on my life, and I feel the need to come home to a place that was so instrumental to my ongoing success. I hope that you all are well. And I hope that I can feel safe here once again.Francisco

Colleen

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