Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I love coffee, but unfortunatly I get a reaction the next day if I drink it. It doesn't help that I like strong coffee either! I haven't tried decaf yet, instead i've just been giving myself a treat each weekend and dealing with the consequences for a few days. Anyone have similar experience and eventually get over it?-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 5 pills a day Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 , I can give up a lot, but my biggest " grief " was strong coffee with cream....Starbucks.... Like you though, every time I would make up a concoction of coffee with almond milk or other legal substitute, I just felt crummy. Through my readings I have learned that stimulants, like coffee, just are not good for us. So I have put coffee on the list of bad habits that I need to give up anyway. I expect to be dreaming about drinking coffee. But that's all I can do for now. PJ > > > I love coffee, but unfortunatly I get a reaction the next day if I drink it. It doesn't help that I like strong coffee either! I haven't tried decaf yet, instead i've just been giving myself a treat each weekend and dealing with the consequences for a few days. > > > > Anyone have similar experience and eventually get over it? > > - > UC - 1+ years > SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet. > Asacol - 5 pills a day > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft�s powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Well, I still drink black coffee, albeit watered down. I will get loose bowels if I drink too much, so have to limit my intake. I never could tolerate the strength of Starbucks so drinking diluted brewed coffee was easy for me to get used to. However, I think it increases the rate of peristalsis (?) because it is a stimulant. You may be able to drink it after healing has occurred more. But don’t drink decaf – that is illegal. Carol CD 21 yrs SCD 5 yrs From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of T I love coffee, but unfortunatly I get a reaction the next day if I drink it. It doesn't help that I like strong coffee either! I haven't tried decaf yet, instead i've just been giving myself a treat each weekend and dealing with the consequences for a few days. _,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 >> I love coffee, but unfortunatly I get a reaction the next day if I drink > it. It doesn't help that I like strong coffee either! I haven't tried > decaf yet, instead i've just been giving myself a treat each weekend and > dealing with the consequences for a few days.>>> Anyone have similar experience and eventually get over it?>> -> UC - 1+ years> SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.> Asacol - 5 pills a day>I'm as you: an adamant coffee lover, and it has to be strong (as coffee is supposed to taste, according to all the world's coffee experts -- but I got to drinking it that way, "European style," while living for years amongst a community of immigrants from the Netherlands). For some years I've been grinding my own beans (and drinking it with real cream, though no sugar). For a long time when I drank coffee, within probably 15 minutes I'd have diarrhea; I drank it anyway. So it's not too surprising that when I started the diet I couldn't tolerate it. I stopped drinking it. (To me, weak coffee is far worse than no coffee at all.)  But as my gut improved on the diet and LDN I could begin to drink coffee again; and despite what I've said, I did begin with fairly weak coffee, then gradually increased the strength (and amount) as it began to go down better and better.Getting used to drinking it black was just as much an issue for me. I'm now back to my regular coffee drinking (now I use Lactaid-treated cream only periodically, as a treat) And now, in fact, I not only grind my own beans, but I got a drum-style coffee roaster for Christmas, and I roast my own beans as well. Fabulous coffee! The highlight of my day, culinarily speaking. :-) -- and I'm an experienced cook. But breakfast has always been my favorite meal, despite my love of cooking more elaborate meals.There's hope, !  Hang in there. n-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 > ,> I can give up a lot, but my biggest "grief" was strong coffee with > cream....Starbucks.... Like you though, every time I would make up a > concoction of coffee with almond milk or other legal substitute, I just > felt crummy.>> Through my readings I have learned that stimulants, like coffee, just > are not good for us. So I have put coffee on the list of bad habits that > I need to give up anyway.>> I expect to be dreaming about drinking coffee. But that's all I can do > for now.>> PJI do deeply empathize, PJ (but see my previous post re: coffee; and coffee isn't ncessarily a bad habit at all, BTW -- it's got properties than are far more healthful than the anti-caffeine folks would have you believe; see some of the recent coffee-related research studies). Just a comment about Starbucks-style coffee. I've often drunk it myself, and did exclusively for a while because all other publicly available coffee was so weak. But Starbucks-style coffee is particularly hard on the gut, and here's why:They roast their beans beyond what's called "second crack" -- that is, the beans are roasted to the point of literally beginning to turn to charcoal -- they will literally catch fire as the coffee oils release if the person roasting/tending the roaster is not careful. And THAT is hard on the gut. When coffee beans are roasted, at a certain point they begin to "pop," not unlike the sound of popcorn popping. That's "first crack," and roasting up to or just after first crack is gnerally considered to be the world coffee standard in terms of roasting level. For a milder "city roast," the roasting has to be stopped before first crack. For espresso and French roast, the beans are roasted past second crack  -- which is what Starbucks does, resulting in almost black, oil-covered beans (the natural oils in the beans automatically start oozing out of the beans at second crack. The thing is, espresso comes in tiny cups (normally), as everybody knows. And what we call French roast coffee is normally also served in small cups. So coffee made with those blackened beans was never really intended to be consumed by the pint or more, as Starbucks sells it. My theory about people gravitating to Starbucks burnt-bean style coffee (I did for quite a while myself) is that many of those people (including me) had never tasted properly roasted, properly strong coffee, just the weak, tea-like stuff in stale pots that so many restauratns pass off as coffee. But once you do, my goodness, the difference is astonishing. That's what coffee's supposed to taste like? I remember asking myself when I was in Europe for the first time many years ago.  This may an eye-popping fact for some of you out: the amount of ground coffee per 6 oz. cup (which is a small, traditional cup, obviously) that coffee experts recommend is 2 tablespoons!  Which is probably why in most cultures coffee is drunk with cream, or if without cream, then with a lot of sugar. Not even I drink it that strong. But close. :-)  And even when that strong, or almost that strong, the effect on the gut is quite different, I've found, than when using blackened, semi-charcoal beans (that level of roasting actually changes the beans' chemical structure). n>> >>>>>> I love coffee, but unfortunatly I get a reaction the next day if I >> drink it. It doesn't help that I like strong coffee either! I haven't >> tried decaf yet, instead i've just been giving myself a treat each >> weekend and dealing with the consequences for a few days.>>>>>>>> Anyone have similar experience and eventually get over it?>>>> ->> UC - 1+ years>> SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.>> Asacol - 5 pills a day>>>>>>>>>>>> >> _________________________________________________________________>> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft�s powerful SPAM protection.>> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/>>>>-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Hi n, This is interesting. I grew up drinking European style coffee, so the restaurant coffee tastes terrible to me. I too would rather drink no coffee than weak coffee. Maybe, like you, I'll tolerate it one day. Thanks for the info on Starbucks. I will (like everything else) make my own... PJ > >> > >> > >> I love coffee, but unfortunatly I get a reaction the next day if Idrink > >> it. It doesn't help that I like strong coffee either! I haven'ttried > >> decaf yet, instead i've just been giving myself a treat eachweekend and > >> dealing with the consequences for a few days. > >> > >> > >> > >> Anyone have similar experience and eventually get over it? > >> > >> - > >> UC - 1+ years > >> SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet. > >> Asacol - 5 pills a day > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft�s powerful SPAM protection. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ > >> > > > > > > > -- > Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers: > Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My > Addiction > by n Van Til > www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., > reduced shipping elsewhere > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 , I am huge coffee fiend but in the end my first issue with coffee is it does not let me sleep, then I end up with the horrible stomach pains. The other big issue I had with coffee was drinking it with soymilk … which is what I cheated on many times when I first started SCD. I have found the Tazo Awake tea that I get at Starbucks to be my current solution. It’s a black tea and tastes delicious with honey (of course I always bring my ownJ) I have actually been surprised as to how good a substitute it has been for me since I’ve never been much of a tea drinker. It’s probably the most coffee like tea I’ve had, but still satisfying without the milk. Good Luck , this is a tuffy, From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of T Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:47 AM To: btvc-scd Subject: How many people can still drink coffee? I love coffee, but unfortunatly I get a reaction the next day if I drink it. It doesn't help that I like strong coffee either! I haven't tried decaf yet, instead i've just been giving myself a treat each weekend and dealing with the consequences for a few days. Anyone have similar experience and eventually get over it? - UC - 1+ years SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet. Asacol - 5 pills a day Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I do deeply empathize, PJ (but see my previous post re: coffee; and coffee isn't ncessarily a bad habit at all, BTW -- it's got properties than are far more healthful than the anti-caffeine folks would have you believe; see some of the recent coffee-related research studies). Yes!! - don't believe their evil propaganda (um, can you tell I'm a coffaholic?)- this is the same kind of CW that states that carbs are good and fat is bad. When coffee beans are roasted, at a certain point they begin to "pop," not unlike the sound of popcorn popping. That's "first crack," and roasting up to or just after first crack is gnerally considered to be the world coffee standard in terms of roasting level. For a milder "city roast," the roasting has to be stopped before first crack. For espresso and French roast, the beans are roasted past second crack -- which is what Starbucks does, resulting in almost black, oil-covered beans (the natural oils in the beans automatically start oozing out of the beans at second crack. The thing is, espresso comes in tiny cups (normally), as everybody knows. And what we call French roast coffee is normally also served in small cups. So coffee made with those blackened beans was never really intended to be consumed by the pint or more, as Starbucks sells it. Very interesting n. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 I've found I can handle coffee diluted with water (1/2 cof, 1/2 water). But I can only drink it about 3 times a week, or my stomach becomes overly acidic. I have had decaf, but find the taste less satisfying. (Note that only the decaf processed with water would be SCD-safe--look for Swiss Water Process coffee). Like everything else, you've got to figure out what your body can handle. (And it can change over time.) Good luck--it's hard to consider giving up something you like, I know. CD 12 years, SCD 3 years > > , > > > > I am huge coffee fiend but in the end my first issue with coffee is it does > not let me sleep, then I end up with the horrible stomach pains. The other > big issue I had with coffee was drinking it with soymilk . which is what I > cheated on many times when I first started SCD. > > > > I have found the Tazo Awake tea that I get at Starbucks to be my current > solution. It's a black tea and tastes delicious with honey (of course I > always bring my ownJ) I have actually been surprised as to how good a > substitute it has been for me since I've never been much of a tea drinker. > It's probably the most coffee like tea I've had, but still satisfying > without the milk. > > > > Good Luck , this is a tuffy, > > > > > > From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf > Of T > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:47 AM > To: btvc-scd > Subject: How many people can still drink coffee? > > > > > > I love coffee, but unfortunatly I get a reaction the next day if I drink it. > It doesn't help that I like strong coffee either! I haven't tried decaf yet, > instead i've just been giving myself a treat each weekend and dealing with > the consequences for a few days. > > Anyone have similar experience and eventually get over it? > > - > UC - 1+ years > SCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet. > Asacol - 5 pills a day > > > > > > > > _____ > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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