I am a YEAST MONGOR!!!!!

January 20, 2010

sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit( but cooked

berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and MANY forms of yeast

in my stool - what is going on and why won't the diet/anti-fungals kill

it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can tell doc is just as blown away by this

as well - me and my ridiculous body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

eileen 2 years scd

January 20, 2010

Hi Eileen,

Are you just trying to starve out the yeast or actively killing it as well? In

my

opinion, SCD works beautifully when you have anti-fungals on board as well.

A lot of us (myself included) have such messed up systems that we cannot

rid our bodies of yeast without some serious help. I am still nursing my baby

girl (20 months) but plan to launch major war on the bad bugs once I'm done.

GSE, Oil of Oregano, No Fenol enzymes and Caprylic acid work really well.

My sympathies,

-

>

> sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit( but cooked

berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and MANY forms of yeast

in my stool - what is going on and why won't the diet/anti-fungals kill

it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can tell doc is just as blown away by this

as well - me and my ridiculous body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

> eileen 2 years scd

>

January 20, 2010

sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit( but cooked berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and MANY forms of yeast in my stool - what is going on and why won't the diet/anti-fungals kill it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can tell doc is just as blown away by this as well - me and my ridiculous body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!So sorry to hear!!! That is such a bummer! D= I came across this bit of info on some person's website; they're trying to sell a yeast diet/supplement protocol like everyone else, so I didn't think you'd be interested in that, but this passage caught my attention:"When infected the entire immune system comes into play to eradicate the infection from the body if it is functioning normally. At first the systemic yeast infection can become infected, like a cut on the hand, and later becomes inflamed as it spreads. In an immune system compromised host the person usually becomes infected and inflamed, then the infected area will produce fluid as the infection worsens. The immune system being unable to contain the systemic yeast infection allows the infection to spread.Once the infection has taken control it is almost impossible to get rid of until you restore the immune system to normal function. Nk and kpuffer cells can kill a yeast cell in 1/100ths of a second, now they are not doing it. The immune system has become too worn down and doesn't have time, it is to busy doing other things more important for continued life."Maybe you need to focus less on killing and starving the yeast, and more on strengthening your immune system? Not sure how you'd do that, but anyways. This just caught my attention and I figured I'd post it for you to take or leave as you choose =)I hope you figure something out soon! Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!)

January 20, 2010

Maybe you need to focus less on killing and starving the yeast, and more on strengthening your immune system? Not sure how you'd do that, but anyways. This just caught my attention and I figured I'd post it for you to take or leave as you choose =)

Well, one way to strengthen the immune system is to consider LDN.

There are other things, too, of course.

January 21, 2010

Hi, how do you know when you have yeast? I keep hearing about this...I don't

think I do just curious to make sure...thnx

> >

> > sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit( but cooked

berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and MANY forms of yeast

in my stool - what is going on and why won't the diet/anti-fungals kill

it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can tell doc is just as blown away by this

as well - me and my ridiculous body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

> > eileen 2 years scd

> >

>

January 21, 2010

I also have yeast issues--very bad as well. Where can you buy GSE, Oil of

Oregano, etc?? Do I buy them in vitamin form or in liquid form? Are they

usually legal??

Thanks!!

> > >

> > > sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit( but

cooked berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and MANY forms

of yeast in my stool - what is going on and why won't the diet/anti-fungals kill

it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can tell doc is just as blown away by this

as well - me and my ridiculous body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

> > > eileen 2 years scd

> > >

> >

>

January 21, 2010

yes diflucan and nystatin and coconut oil,acidophilus - had to stop s boullardi

as they found s cerv in stool and s boullardi feeds that! my luck -but i asked

doc about other ones as you mentioned too

thanks

eileen

> >

> > sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit( but cooked

berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and MANY forms of yeast

in my stool - what is going on and why won't the diet/anti-fungals kill

it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can tell doc is just as blown away by this

as well - me and my ridiculous body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

> > eileen 2 years scd

> >

>

January 21, 2010

thank you - if i didn't have this irr heartbeat i'd strengthen with LDN - but

will see what doc says - probably IV - thanks

eileen

>

> > sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no

> > fruit( but cooked berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up

> > with RARE and MANY forms of yeast in my stool - what is going on and

> > why won't the diet/anti-fungals kill it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent

> > - I can tell doc is just as blown away by this as well - me and my

> > ridiculous body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

>

> So sorry to hear!!! That is such a bummer! D= I came across this bit

> of info on some person's website; they're trying to sell a yeast diet/

> supplement protocol like everyone else, so I didn't think you'd be

> interested in that, but this passage caught my attention:

>

> " When infected the entire immune system comes into play to eradicate

> the infection from the body if it is functioning normally. At first

> the systemic yeast infection can become infected, like a cut on the

> hand, and later becomes inflamed as it spreads. In an immune system

> compromised host the person usually becomes infected and inflamed,

> then the infected area will produce fluid as the infection worsens.

> The immune system being unable to contain the systemic yeast infection

> allows the infection to spread.

> Once the infection has taken control it is almost impossible to get

> rid of until you restore the immune system to normal function. Nk and

> kpuffer cells can kill a yeast cell in 1/100ths of a second, now they

> are not doing it. The immune system has become too worn down and

> doesn't have time, it is to busy doing other things more important for

> continued life. "

>

> Maybe you need to focus less on killing and starving the yeast, and

> more on strengthening your immune system? Not sure how you'd do that,

> but anyways. This just caught my attention and I figured I'd post it

> for you to take or leave as you choose =)

>

> I hope you figure something out soon!

>

> Peace =)

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!)

>

January 21, 2010

> I also have yeast issues--very bad as well. Where can you buy GSE, Oil > of Oregano, etc?? Do I buy them in vitamin form or in liquid form? Are > they usually legal??>> Thanks!!I'm not but I just happened to see this. I take oil of oregano also when I feel I need it.I order mine (in capsules, 150 mg of OoO) from Lucky Vitamin online (www.luckyvitamin.com, in general a very good source for many, many brands of supplements; excellent prices and customer service). Currently the brand I'm using is Solaray. Oil of oregano is normally the oregano oil in a base of olive oil. Just read the ingredients to see what else may be in there; usually nothing illegal, but the capsules themselves may contain gelatin and/or glycerin. OoO is available in liquid form, but according to someone on one of my other lists, it's not terribly pleasant to take it that way; because it's pretty potent it can cause a sort of burning sensation as it goes done, and in the mouth. And of course, you taste intense oregano for a long time afterwards. And smell like a pizza for hours. :-) n> >> > >>> > > sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit( >> but cooked berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and >> MANY forms of yeast in my stool - what is going on and why won't the >> diet/anti-fungals kill it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can tell >> doc is just as blown away by this as well - me and my ridiculous >> body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!>> > > eileen 2 years scd>> > >>> >>>>>-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere

January 21, 2010

never thought I did but 2 things

my comp pharmacist believes yeast is behind just about all GI issues -2nd - I

always have yeast infections vaginally when younger and thought I was ok now -

but did the spit test from pecanbread and there it was and then the stool tests

but otherwise except for my not " healing or gettign too much better ,I don't

have symptoms per se - tricky stuff - and annoying!!

eileen

> > >

> > > sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit( but

cooked berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and MANY forms

of yeast in my stool - what is going on and why won't the diet/anti-fungals kill

it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can tell doc is just as blown away by this

as well - me and my ridiculous body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

> > > eileen 2 years scd

> > >

> >

>

January 21, 2010

Thanks! I've ordered from Luckyvitamin before so I will check it out. A

naturopath had given me a parabiotic (anti fungal, anti parasite, anti bateria)

before but it had rice flour in it. I also broke out TERRIBLY everywhere

including on my head, upper legs, chest and back when I took it. It was the

craziest thing ever. I'm not even sure if it was a breakout or something else so

after one month I stopped the supplement and started SCD.

Becky- I had all the symptoms of yeast. See the " files " for a document on it. A

naturopath had also done a stool and urine test for yeast. He gave me so much

information it was overwhelming but I think I gathered that the stool test came

back with a very low yeast count but the urine was very high. I'm not sure if

that's right, but when I look at the results now that is what it looks like to

me and I thought that is what he had told me. I also get terrible bloating, pain

etc when I eat fruit or anything sweet (honey) so I believe that is another sign

of yeast overgrowth. I think I've read on here that you can do your own testing

through a lab by sending in samples on your own.

The yeast I had was d-arabinitol as well as an overgrowth of d-lactate. Has

anyone ever heard of these?? It says to avoid d-lactate producing probiotics.

> >> > >

> >> > > sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit(

> >> but cooked berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and

> >> MANY forms of yeast in my stool - what is going on and why won't the

> >> diet/anti-fungals kill it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can telldoc

> >> is just as blown away by this as well - me and my ridiculousbody!!! so

> >> annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

> >> > > eileen 2 years scd

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

> --

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> Addiction

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> reduced shipping elsewhere

>

January 21, 2010

> I also have yeast issues--very bad as well. Where can you buy GSE, Oil > of Oregano, on Healing Crow - an authority on this kind of thing, recommendsOreganol brand for oil of oregano. You can get that in lots of places,including The vitamin shoppe and a zillion places online. etc?? Do I buy them in vitamin form or in liquid form? Are > they usually legal??>> Thanks!!I'm not but I just happened to see this. I take oil of oregano also when I feel I need it.I order mine (in capsules, 150 mg of OoO) from Lucky Vitamin online (www.luckyvitamin.com, in general a very good source for many, many brands of supplements; excellent prices and customer service). Currently the brand I'm using is Solaray. Oil of oregano is normally the oregano oil in a base of olive oil. Just read the ingredients to see what else may be in there; usually nothing illegal, but the capsules themselves may contain gelatin and/or glycerin. OoO is available in liquid form, but according to someone on one of my other lists, it's not terribly pleasant to take it that way; because it's pretty potent it can cause a sort of burning sensation as it goes done, and in the mouth. And of course, you taste intense oregano for a long time afterwards. And smell like a pizza for hours. :-) Heh, I kind of like it, and you can control the dose that way.Mara

January 21, 2010

Don't think the LDN would work with the yeast in the first place,

since yeast blocks LDN.

That's how I figured I had yeast, since the LDN wasn't working

properly anymore, after the steroids.

Mara

> thank you - if i didn't have this irr heartbeat i'd strengthen with LDN - but

will see what doc says - probably IV - thanks

> eileen

>

>>

>>> sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no

>>> fruit( but cooked berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up

>>> with RARE and MANY forms of yeast in my stool - what is going on and

>>> why won't the diet/anti-fungals kill it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent

>>> - I can tell doc is just as blown away by this as well - me and my

>>> ridiculous body!!! so annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

>>

>> So sorry to hear!!! That is such a bummer! D= I came across this bit

>> of info on some person's website; they're trying to sell a yeast diet/

>> supplement protocol like everyone else, so I didn't think you'd be

>> interested in that, but this passage caught my attention:

>>

>> " When infected the entire immune system comes into play to eradicate

>> the infection from the body if it is functioning normally. At first

>> the systemic yeast infection can become infected, like a cut on the

>> hand, and later becomes inflamed as it spreads. In an immune system

>> compromised host the person usually becomes infected and inflamed,

>> then the infected area will produce fluid as the infection worsens.

>> The immune system being unable to contain the systemic yeast infection

>> allows the infection to spread.

>> Once the infection has taken control it is almost impossible to get

>> rid of until you restore the immune system to normal function. Nk and

>> kpuffer cells can kill a yeast cell in 1/100ths of a second, now they

>> are not doing it. The immune system has become too worn down and

>> doesn't have time, it is to busy doing other things more important for

>> continued life. "

>>

>> Maybe you need to focus less on killing and starving the yeast, and

>> more on strengthening your immune system? Not sure how you'd do that,

>> but anyways. This just caught my attention and I figured I'd post it

>> for you to take or leave as you choose =)

>>

>> I hope you figure something out soon!

>>

>> Peace =)

>> Alyssa 15 yo

>> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

>> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

>> Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!)

>>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

January 21, 2010

Where can you buy GSE, Oil of Oregano, etc??

I buy these at places like Vitamin Shoppe, Swanson Vitamins, Vita

Cost, etc. All on-line. I haven't used GSE, but I do use oil of

oregano. I have the liquid form, and yes, it IS strong. But I don't

just put it under my tongue. I dilute in some water, usually. I

figure hey, if I have anything trying to cause a sore throat it will

take care of it on the way down. I usually will drink plenty of

water or have some mint tea afterwards, though. (Maybe I do smell

like pizza for awhile afterwards!)

January 21, 2010

i was taking morinda supreme to fight all that for a while -legal just dried

noni - but stopped doc said just do nystatin for now -you can look up yeast on

wikipedia

eileen

> > >> > >

> > >> > > sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit(

> > >> but cooked berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and

> > >> MANY forms of yeast in my stool - what is going on and why won't the

> > >> diet/anti-fungals kill it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can telldoc

> > >> is just as blown away by this as well - me and my ridiculousbody!!! so

> > >> annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

> > >> > > eileen 2 years scd

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> >

> > --

> > Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:

> > Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My

> > Addiction

> > by n Van Til

> > www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S.,

> > reduced shipping elsewhere

> >

>

January 21, 2010

and I always wondered.. if OOO burns going in... does it burn going out?

PJ

> >> > >

> >> > > sorry but i can't stand it - I'm scd 2 years - no honey no fruit(

> >> but cooked berries ) low carb veges and I keep showing up with RARE and

> >> MANY forms of yeast in my stool - what is going on and why won't the

> >> diet/anti-fungals kill it???!!!!!! sorry neded to vent - I can telldoc

> >> is just as blown away by this as well - me and my ridiculousbody!!! so

> >> annoying!!! makes no sense!!!!!!!

> >> > > eileen 2 years scd

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

> --

> Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:

> Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My

> Addiction

> by n Van Til

> www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S.,

> reduced shipping elsewhere

>

January 21, 2010

> and I always wondered.. if OOO burns going in... does it burn going out?

>

I buy straight Oil of Oregano in a bottle, mix it with olive oil (9 drops olive

to 1 drop oregano oil) and then put it in my own capsules. If you take the

capsules with food, it doesn't burn going down at all.

Liz

January 21, 2010

doc wants mine with water so I didn't buy the pills -but was told to DILUTE and

SIP slowly over time

eileen

>

> > and I always wondered.. if OOO burns going in... does it burn going out?

> >

>

> I buy straight Oil of Oregano in a bottle, mix it with olive oil (9 drops

olive to 1 drop oregano oil) and then put it in my own capsules. If you take

the capsules with food, it doesn't burn going down at all.

>

> Liz

>

January 23, 2010

How do you know the LDN isn't working anymore? Gut symptoms are back?

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Don't think the LDN would work with the yeast in the first place,

> since yeast blocks LDN.

>

> That's how I figured I had yeast, since the LDN wasn't working

> properly anymore, after the steroids.

>

> Mara

>

January 26, 2010

It just didn't kick in right after I stopped the steroids. I was being

all patient and letting it work slowly since I suspected it might take a

while for the steroids to clear and for my immune system to switch

over, but I got lots of small setbacks I had to work through and

feeling tired a lot and I eventually realized, no endorphin boost, so I

finally put two and two together that since it wasn't working right,

the problem might be yeast, since yeast blocks LDN. (Not to mention

my mental block since I was resisting coming to that conclusion.)

And then I discovered that people get

heightened yeast after steroids.

But the yeast elimination diet is helping a lot. I'm definitely feeling

the LDN working, at least to some extent, now.

Mara

> How do you know the LDN isn't working anymore? Gut symptoms are back?

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

>>

>> Don't think the LDN would work with the yeast in the first place,

>> since yeast blocks LDN.

>>

>> That's how I figured I had yeast, since the LDN wasn't working

>> properly anymore, after the steroids.

>>

>> Mara

>>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

January 26, 2010