Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 Dear Group, I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern regarding DS. Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included a later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity). One note: I have found that early studies often have poor results. There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200 procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates. Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS: Preliminary results of the duodenal switch. Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923) Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C [Find other articles with these Authors] The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante, Spain. BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the bilio- pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation. METHODS: Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS: Two patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7 months, one due to liver failure and the other due to malnutrition and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required conversions (5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with medications, and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires parenteral supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5 years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss, quality of food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up can be dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits. -------------------------------------------------------------- AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT: Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity-- intermediate results [in Process Citation] Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923) Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J; ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors] Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante, Spain. abaltasar@.... BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal gastrectomy and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the patients super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was > 70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the patients had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of the morbid obesity in the SO patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 It is interesting that Dr. Baltasar has subsequently become a strong advocate for this procedure above all others. I just recently added his " latest and greatest " published study ( " Duodenal Switch: an Effective Therapy for Morbid Obesity-Intermediate Results. " Obes Surg. 2001 Feb;11:54-59) to the DS website: http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/baltasar.pdf This is in .pdf format, so if you don't have the Adobe Acrobat reader installed in order to open this file, you can get it at the following URL: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html M. --- in Valrico, FL, age 38 Starting weight 299, now 156 Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0 Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99 http://www.duodenalswitch.com Direct replies: mailto:melanie@... > Abstract on DS with poor results > > > Dear Group, > > I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor > results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to > understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern > regarding DS. > > Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in > Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included a > later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of > view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity). > > One note: I have found that early studies often have poor results. > There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best > surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred > procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200 > procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates. > > Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS: > > Preliminary results of the duodenal switch. > Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923) > Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C > [Find other articles with these Authors] > The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante, > Spain. > > > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the bilio- > pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation. METHODS: > Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS: Two > patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7 > months, one due to liver failure and the other due to malnutrition > and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required conversions > (5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required > conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven > patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with medications, > and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven > female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires parenteral > supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5 > years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe > operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative > mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss, quality of > food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up can be > dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT: > > > Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity-- > intermediate results [in Process Citation] > Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923) > Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J; > ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors] > Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante, > Spain. abaltasar@.... > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the > biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal gastrectomy > and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid > obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the patients > super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate > period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was > > 70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the patients > had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all > patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of the > morbid obesity in the SO patients. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 Did you happen to come across any info from dr. k in delano? I know he has only been doing this for just over a year, does that mean my risk of complications is higher? Ann > Dear Group, > > I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor > results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to > understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern > regarding DS. > > Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in > Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included a > later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of > view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity). > > One note: I have found that early studies often have poor results. > There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best > surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred > procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200 > procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates. > > Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS: > > Preliminary results of the duodenal switch. > Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923) > Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C > [Find other articles with these Authors] > The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante, > Spain. > > > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the bilio- > pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation. METHODS: > Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS: Two > patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7 > months, one due to liver failure and the other due to malnutrition > and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required conversions > (5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required > conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven > patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with medications, > and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven > female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires parenteral > supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5 > years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe > operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative > mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss, quality of > food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up can be > dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT: > > > Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity-- > intermediate results [in Process Citation] > Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923) > Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J; > ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors] > Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante, > Spain. abaltasar@s... > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the > biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal gastrectomy > and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid > obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the patients > super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate > period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was > > 70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the patients > had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all > patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of the > morbid obesity in the SO patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 , Thanks for reminding me about that. Actually I had read that article (just didn't think of it after 75 abstracts). It seems that the compication rate for conversions from VBG is very high, but " virgin " operations seem to have quite low complication rates. I have read other authors who came to the same conclusion. I am still reading through the details of the abstracts, and I hope to find the time to write a summary report. The only other " negative " articles that I found tended to site 1 or 2 cases. Hull > It is interesting that Dr. Baltasar has subsequently become a strong > advocate for this procedure above all others. I just recently added his > " latest and greatest " published study ( " Duodenal Switch: an Effective > Therapy for Morbid Obesity-Intermediate Results. " Obes Surg. 2001 > Feb;11:54-59) to the DS website: > > http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/baltasar.pdf > > This is in .pdf format, so if you don't have the Adobe Acrobat reader > installed in order to open this file, you can get it at the following > URL: > > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html > > M. > > --- > in Valrico, FL, age 38 > Starting weight 299, now 156 > Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0 > Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99 > http://www.duodenalswitch.com > > Direct replies: mailto:melanie@t... > > > Abstract on DS with poor results > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor > > results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to > > understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern > > regarding DS. > > > > Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in > > Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included a > > later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of > > view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity). > > > > One note: I have found that early studies often have poor results. > > There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best > > surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred > > procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200 > > procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates. > > > > Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS: > > > > Preliminary results of the duodenal switch. > > Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923) > > Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C > > [Find other articles with these Authors] > > The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante, > > Spain. > > > > > > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the bilio- > > pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation. METHODS: > > Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS: Two > > patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7 > > months, one due to liver failure and the other due to malnutrition > > and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required conversions > > (5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required > > conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven > > patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with medications, > > and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven > > female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires parenteral > > supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5 > > years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe > > operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative > > mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss, quality of > > food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up can be > > dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits. > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT: > > > > > > Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity-- > > intermediate results [in Process Citation] > > Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923) > > Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J; > > ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors] > > Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante, > > Spain. abaltasar@s... > > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the > > biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal gastrectomy > > and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid > > obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the patients > > super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate > > period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was > > > 70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the patients > > had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all > > patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of the > > morbid obesity in the SO patients. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 Ann, I didn't come across any publications from Dr.K. From what I have heard, people are happy with him. But I would reccomend finding out how many procedures he has done and what his morbidity rate and mortality rate is. If he has a mortality rate >2% then I would try another surgeon or wait until he gets more experience. Likewise if the morbidity rate (complications) is >10% that also is an indicator of a problem. Good Luck, Hull > > Dear Group, > > > > I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor > > results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to > > understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern > > regarding DS. > > > > Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in > > Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included a > > later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of > > view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity). > > > > One note: I have found that early studies often have poor results. > > There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best > > surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred > > procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200 > > procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates. > > > > Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS: > > > > Preliminary results of the duodenal switch. > > Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923) > > Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C > > [Find other articles with these Authors] > > The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, > Alicante, > > Spain. > > > > > > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the > bilio- > > pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation. > METHODS: > > Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS: > Two > > patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7 > > months, one due to liver failure and the other due to malnutrition > > and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required conversions > > (5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required > > conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven > > patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with medications, > > and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven > > female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires parenteral > > supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5 > > years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe > > operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative > > mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss, quality > of > > food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up can > be > > dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits. > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT: > > > > > > Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity-- > > intermediate results [in Process Citation] > > Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923) > > Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J; > > ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors] > > Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante, > > Spain. abaltasar@s... > > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the > > biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal > gastrectomy > > and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid > > obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the patients > > super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate > > period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was > > > 70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the patients > > had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all > > patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of the > > morbid obesity in the SO patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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