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Dear Group,

I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor

results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to

understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern

regarding DS.

Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in

Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included a

later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of

view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity).

One note: I have found that early studies often have poor results.

There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best

surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred

procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200

procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates.

Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS:

Preliminary results of the duodenal switch.

Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C

[Find other articles with these Authors]

The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante,

Spain.

BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the bilio-

pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation. METHODS:

Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS: Two

patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7

months, one due to liver failure and the other due to malnutrition

and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required conversions

(5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required

conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven

patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with medications,

and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven

female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires parenteral

supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5

years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe

operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative

mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss, quality of

food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up can be

dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits.

--------------------------------------------------------------

AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT:

Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity--

intermediate results [in Process Citation]

Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J;

ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors]

Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante,

Spain. abaltasar@....

BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the

biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal gastrectomy

and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid

obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the patients

super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate

period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was >

70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the patients

had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all

patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of the

morbid obesity in the SO patients.

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It is interesting that Dr. Baltasar has subsequently become a strong

advocate for this procedure above all others. I just recently added his

" latest and greatest " published study ( " Duodenal Switch: an Effective

Therapy for Morbid Obesity-Intermediate Results. " Obes Surg. 2001

Feb;11:54-59) to the DS website:

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/baltasar.pdf

This is in .pdf format, so if you don't have the Adobe Acrobat reader

installed in order to open this file, you can get it at the following

URL:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

M.

---

in Valrico, FL, age 38

Starting weight 299, now 156

Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0

Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99

http://www.duodenalswitch.com

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> Abstract on DS with poor results

>

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor

> results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to

> understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern

> regarding DS.

>

> Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in

> Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included a

> later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of

> view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity).

>

> One note: I have found that early studies often have poor results.

> There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best

> surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred

> procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200

> procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates.

>

> Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS:

>

> Preliminary results of the duodenal switch.

> Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

> Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C

> [Find other articles with these Authors]

> The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante,

> Spain.

>

>

> BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the bilio-

> pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation. METHODS:

> Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS: Two

> patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7

> months, one due to liver failure and the other due to malnutrition

> and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required conversions

> (5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required

> conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven

> patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with medications,

> and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven

> female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires parenteral

> supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5

> years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe

> operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative

> mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss, quality of

> food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up can be

> dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits.

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

> AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT:

>

>

> Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity--

> intermediate results [in Process Citation]

> Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

> Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J;

> ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors]

> Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante,

> Spain. abaltasar@....

> BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the

> biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal gastrectomy

> and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid

> obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the patients

> super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate

> period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was >

> 70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the patients

> had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all

> patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of the

> morbid obesity in the SO patients.

>

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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Did you happen to come across any info from dr. k in delano? I know

he has only been doing this for just over a year, does that mean my

risk of complications is higher?

Ann

> Dear Group,

>

> I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor

> results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to

> understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern

> regarding DS.

>

> Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in

> Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included a

> later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of

> view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity).

>

> One note: I have found that early studies often have poor results.

> There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best

> surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred

> procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200

> procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates.

>

> Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS:

>

> Preliminary results of the duodenal switch.

> Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

> Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C

> [Find other articles with these Authors]

> The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy,

Alicante,

> Spain.

>

>

> BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the

bilio-

> pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation.

METHODS:

> Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS:

Two

> patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7

> months, one due to liver failure and the other due to malnutrition

> and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required conversions

> (5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required

> conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven

> patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with medications,

> and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven

> female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires parenteral

> supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5

> years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe

> operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative

> mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss, quality

of

> food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up can

be

> dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits.

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

> AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT:

>

>

> Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity--

> intermediate results [in Process Citation]

> Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

> Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J;

> ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors]

> Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante,

> Spain. abaltasar@s...

> BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the

> biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal

gastrectomy

> and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid

> obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the patients

> super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate

> period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was >

> 70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the patients

> had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all

> patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of the

> morbid obesity in the SO patients.

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,

Thanks for reminding me about that. Actually I had read that article

(just didn't think of it after 75 abstracts). It seems that the

compication rate for conversions from VBG is very high, but " virgin "

operations seem to have quite low complication rates. I have read

other authors who came to the same conclusion.

I am still reading through the details of the abstracts, and I hope

to find the time to write a summary report.

The only other " negative " articles that I found tended to site 1 or 2

cases.

Hull

> It is interesting that Dr. Baltasar has subsequently become a strong

> advocate for this procedure above all others. I just recently added

his

> " latest and greatest " published study ( " Duodenal Switch: an

Effective

> Therapy for Morbid Obesity-Intermediate Results. " Obes Surg. 2001

> Feb;11:54-59) to the DS website:

>

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/baltasar.pdf

>

> This is in .pdf format, so if you don't have the Adobe Acrobat

reader

> installed in order to open this file, you can get it at the

following

> URL:

>

> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

>

> M.

>

> ---

> in Valrico, FL, age 38

> Starting weight 299, now 156

> Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0

> Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com

>

> Direct replies: mailto:melanie@t...

>

> > Abstract on DS with poor results

> >

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor

> > results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to

> > understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern

> > regarding DS.

> >

> > Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in

> > Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included

a

> > later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of

> > view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity).

> >

> > One note: I have found that early studies often have poor

results.

> > There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best

> > surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred

> > procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200

> > procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates.

> >

> > Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS:

> >

> > Preliminary results of the duodenal switch.

> > Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

> > Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C

> > [Find other articles with these Authors]

> > The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy,

Alicante,

> > Spain.

> >

> >

> > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the

bilio-

> > pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation.

METHODS:

> > Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS:

Two

> > patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7

> > months, one due to liver failure and the other due to

malnutrition

> > and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required

conversions

> > (5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required

> > conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven

> > patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with

medications,

> > and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven

> > female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires

parenteral

> > supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5

> > years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe

> > operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative

> > mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss,

quality of

> > food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up

can be

> > dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits.

> >

> >

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT:

> >

> >

> > Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity--

> > intermediate results [in Process Citation]

> > Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

> > Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J;

> > ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors]

> > Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante,

> > Spain. abaltasar@s...

> > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the

> > biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal

gastrectomy

> > and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid

> > obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the

patients

> > super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate

> > period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was

>

> > 70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the

patients

> > had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all

> > patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of

the

> > morbid obesity in the SO patients.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

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> >

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Ann,

I didn't come across any publications from Dr.K. From what I have

heard, people are happy with him. But I would reccomend finding out

how many procedures he has done and what his morbidity rate and

mortality rate is. If he has a mortality rate >2% then I would try

another surgeon or wait until he gets more experience. Likewise if

the morbidity rate (complications) is >10% that also is an indicator

of a problem.

Good Luck,

Hull

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I looked through 85 abstracts to find the ones that report poor

> > results. The purpose of this is not to be alarmist, but to

> > understand better if there is any reasonable basis for concern

> > regarding DS.

> >

> > Interestingly the most negative report comes from Dr. Baltasar in

> > Spain. His early results were rather poor. I have also included

a

> > later abstract which seemed to have a somewhat different point of

> > view (but does not give the statistics on mortality/morbidity).

> >

> > One note: I have found that early studies often have poor

results.

> > There seems to be a steep learning curve on DS. Even the best

> > surgeons report more complications in there first couple hundred

> > procedures vs. more recent ones. The surgeons reporting < 200

> > procedures often have alarmingly high mortality/morbidity rates.

> >

> > Here is the worst abstract I could find on BPD/DS:

> >

> > Preliminary results of the duodenal switch.

> > Obes Surg 1997 Dec;7(6):500-4 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

> > Baltasar A; del Rio J; Escriva C; Arlandis F; ez R; Serra C

> > [Find other articles with these Authors]

> > The Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy,

> Alicante,

> > Spain.

> >

> >

> > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS), as a modification of the

> bilio-

> > pancreatic diversion (BPD), is a 'complex' hybrid operation.

> METHODS:

> > Sixty patients were operated on during the last 3 years. RESULTS:

> Two

> > patients died early (3.3%); two late deaths occurred at 4 and 7

> > months, one due to liver failure and the other due to

malnutrition

> > and refeeding syndrome (3.57%); three patients required

conversions

> > (5.3%). The two early deaths and all the patients who required

> > conversions had a previous vertical banded gastroplasty. Eleven

> > patients had minor liver abnormalities corrected with

medications,

> > and one patient had severe diarrhea for more than a year. Eleven

> > female patients have iron deficiency anemia that requires

parenteral

> > supplementation. Mean percent excess weight loss was 86% at 2.5

> > years. CONCLUSIONS: The DS has been, in our experience, an unsafe

> > operation with unacceptably high operative and postoperative

> > mortality. The conversion rate is acceptable. Weight loss,

quality

> of

> > food intake and life have been excellent. Inadequate follow-up

can

> be

> > dangerous if patients fail to report for regular visits.

> >

> >

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > AND NOW HIS 2001 ABSTRACT:

> >

> >

> > Duodenal switch: an effective therapy for morbid obesity--

> > intermediate results [in Process Citation]

> > Obes Surg 2001 Feb;11(1):54-8 (ISSN: 0960-8923)

> > Baltasar A; Bou R; Bengochea M; Arlandis F; Escriva C; Mir J;

> > ez R; N [Find other articles with these Authors]

> > Surgical Service, Virgen de los Lirios Hospital, Alcoy, Alicante,

> > Spain. abaltasar@s...

> > BACKGROUND: The duodenal switch (DS) is a variant of the

> > biliopancreatic diversion (BPD), with a vertical subtotal

> gastrectomy

> > and pylorus preservation. METHODS: DS was used to treat morbid

> > obesity in 125 patients, with mean BMI 50, with 65% of the

patients

> > super obese (SO). Patients have been followed for an intermediate

> > period. RESULTS: The percentage of excess weight loss (%EWL) was

>

> > 70% at 1 year, and reached 81.4% at 5 years when 97% of the

patients

> > had a %EWL > 50%. Comorbidities were cured or improved in all

> > patients. CONCLUSION: DS was very effective for the treatment of

the

> > morbid obesity in the SO patients.

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