Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Does anyone have an approximate value for calories in dripped yogurt? I normally make whole milk yogurt and just use the calories of the milk. Lately I have been making 2% yogurt from the milk at our local dairy farm and dripping it has produced a really nice yogurt cheese. I am spoiled with the whole milk and can't eat the 2% without dripping it. Also, my 11 yo son was dx'd as high Cholesterol and high LDL and I thought the 2% might be better for him. I know recently I think it was PJ who had a calorie breakdown. Even if for whole milk, it doesn't matter, I can extrapolate. Could someone please post if they know or have that post? Thanks, Terry Proctosigmoiditis 6/08 SCD 6/08 LDN 4.5mg approx 5 months Lialda once in a while as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hi Terry, One source estimated about 240 a cup,the calories in 3 cups - some of the carbs that drip off, but the actual number is not known. Here is what I found out about making yogurt of all kinds. When I use the lower fat milk, I get more liquid. What is left after dripping is all the protein and fat, but I lose more volume with dripping the lower fat milk, so I seem to get the same concentration of calories/protein/ variable fat regardless, only I get less of it and have to make it more often. So I just stayed with full fat milk. My cholesterol is usually above 200, but when my doctor breaks it down, it is always because I have high good cholesterol. It's always been this way, since I've been younger. I've read Good Calorie-Bad Calorie and The Schwarzbein Principle. Naturally I take a critical look at what I read, but their discussion on our recent " cholesterol " problem is compelling. Although there are genetic cases of familial hypercholesteremia in children that need special attention, it does make me question the need to diagnose otherwise healthy children. Children need healthy fats and cholesterol to grow, so there may be other items- carbs- in your son's diet that would impact cholesterol more than the milk. Just a thought. PJ PJ > > Does anyone have an approximate value for calories in dripped yogurt? > > I normally make whole milk yogurt and just use the calories of the milk. Lately I have been making 2% yogurt from the milk at our local dairy farm and dripping it has produced a really nice yogurt cheese. I am spoiled with the whole milk and can't eat the 2% without dripping it. Also, my 11 yo son was dx'd as high Cholesterol and high LDL and I thought the 2% might be better for him. > > I know recently I think it was PJ who had a calorie breakdown. Even if for whole milk, it doesn't matter, I can extrapolate. Could someone please post if they know or have that post? > > Thanks, > > Terry > Proctosigmoiditis 6/08 > SCD 6/08 > LDN 4.5mg approx 5 months > Lialda once in a while as needed. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 oops I meant the calories in 2 cups, since you loose about half the volume when you drip > > > > Does anyone have an approximate value for calories in dripped yogurt? > > > > I normally make whole milk yogurt and just use the calories of the milk. Lately I have been making 2% yogurt from the milk at our local dairy farm and dripping it has produced a really nice yogurt cheese. I am spoiled with the whole milk and can't eat the 2% without dripping it. Also, my 11 yo son was dx'd as high Cholesterol and high LDL and I thought the 2% might be better for him. > > > > I know recently I think it was PJ who had a calorie breakdown. Even if for whole milk, it doesn't matter, I can extrapolate. Could someone please post if they know or have that post? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Terry > > Proctosigmoiditis 6/08 > > SCD 6/08 > > LDN 4.5mg approx 5 months > > Lialda once in a while as needed. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 PJ, Thanks so much for responding. I understand about cholesterol ( CHL) in foods shutting down CHL production in the liver and the excess hype today, but unfortunately ds' CHL is over 200 and his LDL is high and HDL low. On my side of the family, everyone's CHL is high except for me. ( haven't had it checked lately, though.) I agree with you that carbs may be an issue, and I have been trying to cut down on his carbs and teach him portion control. Ds has OCD and I think that sometimes, he is eating compulsively. Additionally he is on an SSRI and they can cause weight gain. He was never skinny, but in this past year, his weight gain has been disproportionate to his height gain. Also when he goes to visit his Disney Dad, nutrition goes out the window, which is very frustrating for me. Muffins and doughnuts for breakfast and every fast food joint known to man. This is why I nursed my twins for 7 months and put home made organic food on the table. So, I'm trying to control what I can. I would like to keep his fat intake to 30% and sat fat to 20%. I don't think it is unreasonable. When I restrict his carbs, he tells me I'm starving him and he's hungry. An 11 yo boy doesn't understand fully or really care about carb addiction. Then there are the snacks at the after school program. I only have so much energy and cannot police every situation that he is in. So, I'm just trying to cut a little of the fat out. I still use the whole milk yogurt--hard to argue with the superior taste. If anyone has any suggestions, I surely welcome them. Terry Proctosigmoiditis SCD LDN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 At 02:54 PM 1/23/2010, you wrote: If anyone has any suggestions, I surely welcome them. Terry, For cholesterol issues, take a look at pantethine. http://www.pantethine.net/ I was using it for something else, but my cholesterol, which had been higher than normal just before I was diagnosed with cancer (and had been dropping after my surgery), dropped right back to its normal levels. Pantethine is reputed to to this. I used the Jarrow 450 mg of pantethine, once in the morning and once in the evening. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Terry,I applaud your efforts in the light of the situation. My control-freak nature is outraged that you must deal with a Disney Dad on top of everything else! Maybe you already have an older son, but if not I would like to say that starting at around 8-9 years of age, I noticed my two older boys began to look 'chubby.' Not obese, but enough to have issues with trousers fitting and such. Anyway, my oldest, now 13 1/2, started really growing at about 12 and now is 113 lbs and 5' 2" tall. He isn't going to be huge (tall) b/c his father and I are not tall, but he already has the same size hands and feet as his father and still growing. So, if your son isn't obese at this point, I say do what you can, and know that soon he will most likely hit a growth spurt. AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD <BTVC-SCD >Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 8:54:58 PMSubject: Re: Calories in dripped yogurt PJ, Thanks so much for responding. I understand about cholesterol ( CHL) in foods shutting down CHL production in the liver and the excess hype today, but unfortunately ds' CHL is over 200 and his LDL is high and HDL low. On my side of the family, everyone's CHL is high except for me. ( haven't had it checked lately, though.) I agree with you that carbs may be an issue, and I have been trying to cut down on his carbs and teach him portion control. Ds has OCD and I think that sometimes, he is eating compulsively. Additionally he is on an SSRI and they can cause weight gain. He was never skinny, but in this past year, his weight gain has been disproportionate to his height gain. Also when he goes to visit his Disney Dad, nutrition goes out the window, which is very frustrating for me. Muffins and doughnuts for breakfast and every fast food joint known to man. This is why I nursed my twins for 7 months and put home made organic food on the table. So, I'm trying to control what I can. I would like to keep his fat intake to 30% and sat fat to 20%. I don't think it is unreasonable. When I restrict his carbs, he tells me I'm starving him and he's hungry. An 11 yo boy doesn't understand fully or really care about carb addiction. Then there are the snacks at the after school program. I only have so much energy and cannot police every situation that he is in. So, I'm just trying to cut a little of the fat out. I still use the whole milk yogurt--hard to argue with the superior taste. If anyone has any suggestions, I surely welcome them. Terry Proctosigmoiditis SCD LDN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Hi Terri, Yes, I do understand that in his case, you have to make adjustments, especially if he is gaining weight. OCD is really tough to deal with, along with compulsive eating and also the anxiety, and medication. Add to that a Disney dad... whew. Hopefully, he will grow some with puberty and that will take care of some of the weight issues. It sounds like you are already targeting the high sugar junk foods and Dad is undoing that. I know you can't police a teenager. Physical activity will help. I wish I had better advice. PJ > > PJ, > > Thanks so much for responding. > > I understand about cholesterol ( CHL) in foods shutting down CHL production in the liver and the excess hype today, but unfortunately ds' CHL is over 200 and his LDL is high and HDL low. On my side of the family, everyone's CHL is high except for me. ( haven't had it checked lately, though.) > > I agree with you that carbs may be an issue, and I have been trying to cut down on his carbs and teach him portion control. > Ds has OCD and I think that sometimes, he is eating compulsively. Additionally he is on an SSRI and they can cause weight gain. He was never skinny, but in this past year, his weight gain has been disproportionate to his height gain. > Also when he goes to visit his Disney Dad, nutrition goes out the window, which is very frustrating for me. Muffins and doughnuts for breakfast and every fast food joint known to man. > This is why I nursed my twins for 7 months and put home made organic food on the table. So, I'm trying to control what I can. > > I would like to keep his fat intake to 30% and sat fat to 20%. I don't think it is unreasonable. When I restrict his carbs, he tells me I'm starving him and he's hungry. An 11 yo boy doesn't understand fully or really care about carb addiction. Then there are the snacks at the after school program. I only have so much energy and cannot police every situation that he is in. So, I'm just trying to cut a little of the fat out. I still use the whole milk yogurt--hard to argue with the superior taste. > > If anyone has any suggestions, I surely welcome them. > > Terry > Proctosigmoiditis > SCD > LDN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Thanks, Marilyn, PJ and Amelia for responding, I am definitely going to start him on the pantethine. I already have him on a B vitamin, Inositol, that has shown to help OCD for some people. I am hoping for a major growth spurt as his hands and feet are huge and I have him in swim lessons once a week, but it's not enough. My goal is to increase his physical activity. I always restricted both boys' sugar intake and used to get flak from everyone, especially their teachers, mostly in the form of 'Oh, OK, you're a dentist, that's why you're being this way" and my response was, 'No, I'm a mother first'. But you get tired fighting City Hall. I have always taught them about making smart food choices, but it is hard when the other parent is not on board. I will continue and hope that as they mature, they will make those smart choices for themselves. As always, the support from this group is wonderful. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Terry," I have him in swim lessons once a week, but it's not enough." I have a swimmer friend who says that swimming will actually increase the amount of fat on the body if done regularly because fat is an insulator against the cooler water. The pool is probably heated, but it won't be as warm as body temperature (otherwise it would be like swimming in the bathtub!). So although the exercise is burning calories and help to build muscle, it will at the same time encourage a slightly thicker layer of fat under the skin. This isn't a bad thing, just something to consider.AmeliaFrom: Terry Rumas To: BTVC-SCD <BTVC-SCD >Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 2:05:14 PMSubject: Re: Calories in dripped yogurt Thanks, Marilyn, PJ and Amelia for responding, I am definitely going to start him on the pantethine. I already have him on a B vitamin, Inositol, that has shown to help OCD for some people. I am hoping for a major growth spurt as his hands and feet are huge and I have him in swim lessons once a week, but it's not enough. My goal is to increase his physical activity. I always restricted both boys' sugar intake and used to get flak from everyone, especially their teachers, mostly in the form of 'Oh, OK, you're a dentist, that's why you're being this way" and my response was, 'No, I'm a mother first'. But you get tired fighting City Hall. I have always taught them about making smart food choices, but it is hard when the other parent is not on board. I will continue and hope that as they mature, they will make those smart choices for themselves. As always, the support from this group is wonderful. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Hi Amelia, I have read this about swimming, but I feel any exercise is good. The pool is heated. And, I have never seen an out of shape Olympic swimmer! Swimming is ideal for ds--he's not good at team sports and is not that coordinated. He loves the water and to swim. The added plus is I get in after the lesson and do some laps, which is great for my joints. Thanks again for your help. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Terry,Absolutely swimming is good. Uses way more muscles than any other exercise and it isn't hard on the joints either. Bonus that your son loves it because it won't be a struggle to get him to do it. AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD <BTVC-SCD >Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 1:28:06 AMSubject: Re: Calories in dripped yogurt Hi Amelia, I have read this about swimming, but I feel any exercise is good. The pool is heated. And, I have never seen an out of shape Olympic swimmer! Swimming is ideal for ds--he's not good at team sports and is not that coordinated. He loves the water and to swim. The added plus is I get in after the lesson and do some laps, which is great for my joints. Thanks again for your help. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Terry,Absolutely swimming is good. Uses way more muscles than any other exercise and it isn't hard on the joints either. Bonus that your son loves it because it won't be a struggle to get him to do it. AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD <BTVC-SCD >Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 1:28:06 AMSubject: Re: Calories in dripped yogurt Hi Amelia, I have read this about swimming, but I feel any exercise is good. The pool is heated. And, I have never seen an out of shape Olympic swimmer! Swimming is ideal for ds--he's not good at team sports and is not that coordinated. He loves the water and to swim. The added plus is I get in after the lesson and do some laps, which is great for my joints. Thanks again for your help. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 My 13 1/2 year old nephew used to be pretty chubby when he was younger. He's now 6'1 " (that's not a typo!) and about 175 pounds. He looks pretty trim now. Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > Terry, > >Anyway, my oldest, now 13 1/2, started really growing at about 12 and now is 113 lbs and 5' 2 " tall. He isn't going to be huge (tall) b/c his father and I are not tall, but he already has the same size hands and feet as his father and still growing. > > Amelia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 My 13 1/2 year old nephew used to be pretty chubby when he was younger. He's now 6'1 " (that's not a typo!) and about 175 pounds. He looks pretty trim now. Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > Terry, > >Anyway, my oldest, now 13 1/2, started really growing at about 12 and now is 113 lbs and 5' 2 " tall. He isn't going to be huge (tall) b/c his father and I are not tall, but he already has the same size hands and feet as his father and still growing. > > Amelia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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