Re: Carnie on Montel (or was it Montel on Carnie??)

[Guest guest]

At 10:19 AM -0700 7/3/01, Betsy M. wrote:

I missed it too!!! I'd be happy to

pay for shipping

and insurance both ways as well.

Let me know.

It was hardly worth it. I happened to tune into

Montel as I was channel surfing from my recumbent bike in my gym

at home -- just getting back to exercising, eight weeks post-op

-- and caught the magic words like " Carnie " and

" obesity. " Basically, Montel was sucking up to her and

her male-friend (who was smart enough to sit there and keep his mouth

shut) as well as her doctor and playing up the doctor's web site "

http://www.spotlighthealth.com (I checked it, and it is almost totally

devoted to film clips and dialog of Carnie's journey through WLS).

And, with tear-jerking more fit for Oprah than Montel, Carnie

was praised to the heavens for saving so many lost souls through

her web page and the fact that SHE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATES IN THE

ON-LINE SUPPORT GROUP AND REGULAR PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I CAN EVEN TALK

TO CARNIE (wow, mama, git me my keyboard! quick

now!). I don't know if she was embarrassed by this treacle,

or if she was actually digging it, but it was being laid out real

thick. Of course, to a MO naif looking in on this world of WLS

for the first time, it may have been just what was needed to get the

brain cells oriented to the surgery.

Anyway, my 30 minutes were up at about the time that

Montel's credits started to flash across the screen, and I went

over to my weight machine.

After exercising, and back at my computer and on " Carnie's

web page (http://www.spotlighthealth.com ), I could not get Real

Player to work on the film clips, so i read the dialog of her first

consult with the doc. I cringed when he went over the

alternatives to RnY. Something to the effect of, " of

course there are things like the VBG and duodenal switch, but for you

the Roux en Y is the best choice. " (Now, this is from

memory,and he may not have said it exactly that way.)

Point is that she barely appeared to understand the RnY

during that first consult (lots of " um's " and

" uh-huh's " from her mouth), and he dismissed other choices

just by naming them and not even explaining what they were.

Oh well, just one post-op's jaded and jaundiced views.

--Steve

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[Guest guest]

Reading Steve's post about Carnie's doctor and how he pushed the RNY without

really discussing the plus/minus of the other surgeries avaiable makes me

really appreciate Dr. Booth in MS. When I went in for my consult, I went

prepared for the DS because I had done my homework. However, there were

those there who had not. The PCP had simply sent them for WLS consult. Dr.

Booth has made a video that you watch (as a group) that goes into detail

about the different surgeries and what you can expect with each. THEN he

comes in and discusses AGAIN and answers the group's questions. And ONCE

AGAIN he talks to you one on one about which surgery you think is best for

you and why....He spends all the time you need to make sure that you

understand everything. I really appreciate a doctor who involves the

patient in the decision so much!! After all...this is MY life and MY body.

Still waiting on insurance,

Jerry, Pre-op, Dr. Booth, MS

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>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>CC: duodenalswitch , " Betsy M. " betsyboop41@...>

>Subject: Re: Carnie on Montel (or was it Montel on

>Carnie??)

>Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:44:18 -0400

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At 10:19 AM -0700 7/3/01, Betsy M. wrote:

I missed it too!!! I'd be happy to

pay for shipping

and insurance both ways as well.

Let me know.

It was hardly worth it. I happened to tune into

Montel as I was channel surfing from my recumbent bike in my gym

at home -- just getting back to exercising, eight weeks post-op

-- and caught the magic words like " Carnie " and

" obesity. " Basically, Montel was sucking up to her and

her male-friend (who was smart enough to sit there and keep his mouth

shut) as well as her doctor and playing up the doctor's web site "

http://www.spotlighthealth.com (I checked it, and it is almost totally

devoted to film clips and dialog of Carnie's journey through WLS).

And, with tear-jerking more fit for Oprah than Montel, Carnie

was praised to the heavens for saving so many lost souls through

her web page and the fact that SHE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATES IN THE

ON-LINE SUPPORT GROUP AND REGULAR PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I CAN EVEN TALK

TO CARNIE (wow, mama, git me my keyboard! quick

now!). I don't know if she was embarrassed by this treacle,

or if she was actually digging it, but it was being laid out real

thick. Of course, to a MO naif looking in on this world of WLS

for the first time, it may have been just what was needed to get the

brain cells oriented to the surgery.

Anyway, my 30 minutes were up at about the time that

Montel's credits started to flash across the screen, and I went

over to my weight machine.

After exercising, and back at my computer and on " Carnie's

web page (http://www.spotlighthealth.com ), I could not get Real

Player to work on the film clips, so i read the dialog of her first

consult with the doc. I cringed when he went over the

alternatives to RnY. Something to the effect of, " of

course there are things like the VBG and duodenal switch, but for you

the Roux en Y is the best choice. " (Now, this is from

memory,and he may not have said it exactly that way.)

Point is that she barely appeared to understand the RnY

during that first consult (lots of " um's " and

" uh-huh's " from her mouth), and he dismissed other choices

just by naming them and not even explaining what they were.

Oh well, just one post-op's jaded and jaundiced views.

--Steve

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[Guest guest]

Hey

I watched Carnie too and it's really is not worth it....you can see pics of REAL people online here and marvel at how wonderful they look and so on....and that is without the million nurses and such that I'm sure she had....yup...she looks great but so do the rest of the geninue folks here who have worked sooooooooo hard and researched sooooooooooo much....congrats to them....and don't bother with the tape of Carnie...Steve was right on the money concerning the show...

Cindy S

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for briefing us on Carnie's visit with Montel. I guess I'm not that broken up about missing it after all!! LOL!!! You know, it seems to me that I heard somewhere a ways back that she was regretting not having the DS done...........oh well, I'm sure that was all rumor. Whatever. Anyway, thanks for sharing your views. Personally, I don't really understand what the big deal is. Yes, she's a celebrity, but so what? She was MO just like the rest of us, and she had surgery just like the rest of us. The end.

Okay, sorry, now that's MY "jaded and jaundiced" views!! Ha! Ha!!

So, how's the exercise coming?

Pam

Pre-op in MD

Dr. Vanguri

Surgery date July 9, 2001