Re: What can we learn from ?-PSYCH EVAL

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is a psychiatric nurse and had her psych evaluation done by one of her own doctors,

How can someone be talking revision before even having a surgery and be allowed to have surgery...that is simply crazy.

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please refrain all comments about me, i am very disappointed with most people in this group ecept terry, nancy f, ellen and hank on most days,,,karen

[Guest guest]

I was talking revision and probably am write, with a 100 cc i have only lost 4 pds on my first post op visit please dont judge me, u dont know me

karen

if u need to write to me write to me directly

[Guest guest]

,

I have refrained from posting anything to you, or about you, for the past few

days, but I do see many well wishers posting that are trying to help any way

they can. We are all concerned about you, and hope that you will seek medical

attention if you are still not feeling well. I have written you words of

positive encouragement on many occasions, and still havn't heard a response,

so I don't know for sure what is going on with you these days. I hope you are

feeling better soon, and please , if you are not... GO TO THE DOC.

I cannot begin to walk in your shoes, so I will not pass judgement on you, or

your physical or mental capabilities. I am here to help any way I can. It

really isn't fair to ask people to refrain from posting/commenting on your

situation when you post your messages publicly to the whole group. Maybe you

could grab a handful of people and post to them individually, if that is

better for you. I wish you much luck, and I hope you are feeling better soon.

Kim B.

[Guest guest]

is a psychiatric nurse and had her psych evaluation done by one

of her own doctors, not Gagner's psychiatrist. Did she " slip through

the cracks " here? Who knows. INMO I think was not ready for the

surgery. She was discussing a revision before she even had the surgery.

She has a very negative outlook. I believe strongly in mind over

matter. You have to help yourself.

Now, could I have gone through the DS alone? Probably. But it was much

better with my family holding my hand. When you really want to do

something, you do it. We have amazing strength. I mean look at people

like Bridget and what she has gone through...oh and Joe Frost and

Sharon Goldenlady and .

Not everyone is ready for this surgery. I hope gets the help she

needs or helps herself.

Jill K in NY

-70 in 3 months

Dr. Gagner

[Guest guest]

At 1:39 PM +0000 7/9/01, JILL wrote:

> is a psychiatric nurse . . .

My Gawd! Talk about " Physician, heal thyself! " --Steve

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/9/2001 10:54:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

chull1@... writes:

<< I have a strong hunch that was abused as a child (sexually

and/or physically) based on her behavior. >>

I don't want to open up a new can of worms here, but I think we could do

without these types of hunches. While what you may be saying is true, if it

was something wanted to discuss, she would, and that would be a whole

new subject.

Kim B.

[Guest guest]

> please refrain all comments about me, i am very disappointed with most people

> in this group ecept terry, nancy f, ellen and hank on most days,,,karen

Fine . But we have been trying to help you. You don't take any

advice, you don't even listen to any advice. You just ask, ask, ask

without listening. I will refrain from writing about you but then

please refrain from IMing me every single time I go on-line.

Wishing you the best or even better,

Jill K in NY

[Guest guest]

Why is that ? No one has been anything but kind to you here and you've done

nothing but ignored everyones attempt to help you. You posted and we all have

responded. You know what you need to do. You opened up the can of worms so to

say. You have our attention and now you don't want us to make comments because

you don't like what we're saying. I'm sorry but if you want to post here making

us believe you are in dire straits and make us worry about you, then we have the

right to talk about it. You brought it to us.

AJ

Happy2knowU2@... wrote:

>please refrain all comments about me, i am very disappointed with most people

>in this group ecept terry, nancy f, ellen and hank on most days,,,karen

>

[Guest guest]

,

In one of your emails yesterday you mentioned "freedom of speech" It works both ways sweetheart!

J

Re: Re: What can we learn from ?-PSYCH EVAL

please refrain all comments about me, i am very disappointed with most people in this group ecept terry, nancy f, ellen and hank on most days,,,karen ----------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I have a strong hunch that was abused as a child (sexually

and/or physically) based on her behavior. I have known several abuse

victums, and they often behave this way. I have also seen substance

abusers behave this way as well. Being a psychiatric nurse would

make it qutie easy for her to fool any psychiatrist. To allow her to

see the one she works with was negligent in my opinion. It is one

thing to allow a letter from a longstanding therapist, but quite

another to allow an employer to do the evaluation. To this extent, I

think that Dr. G is at fault. It is an understandable mistake, as he

was trying to be flexible. It looks like he bent a little to far and

paid the price. I bet Dr. G will be less flexible from now on. Hope

that Dr's don't go to the other extreme. Many of us have

longstanding relationships with therapists, and they are very well

qualified to make the assesment.

Hull

> is a psychiatric nurse and had her psych evaluation done by

one

> of her own doctors, not Gagner's psychiatrist. Did she " slip

through

> the cracks " here? Who knows. INMO I think was not ready for

the

> surgery. She was discussing a revision before she even had the

surgery.

> She has a very negative outlook. I believe strongly in mind over

> matter. You have to help yourself.

>

> Now, could I have gone through the DS alone? Probably. But it was

much

> better with my family holding my hand. When you really want to do

> something, you do it. We have amazing strength. I mean look at

people

> like Bridget and what she has gone through...oh and Joe Frost and

> Sharon Goldenlady and .

>

> Not everyone is ready for this surgery. I hope gets the help

she

> needs or helps herself.

>

> Jill K in NY

> -70 in 3 months

> Dr. Gagner

[Guest guest]

Yes, but you were talking revison with me long before your surgery! One doesnt go in to get surgery thinking "oh well, Ill just get a revision if it doesnt work out" That is what these groups are for......to learn everything we can about them before we take that step!

J

Re: Re: What can we learn from ?-PSYCH EVAL

I was talking revision and probably am write, with a 100 cc i have only lost 4 pds on my first post op visit please dont judge me, u dont know me karen if u need to write to me write to me directly ----------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I think that this type of speculation about another member's situation is

completely inappropriate. There is absolutely no justification for guessing

about what " past history " may have contributed to another's coping style or

communications. This episode is very unfortunate, and I can only hope that

will follow through and take care of herself in a more complete way in

the future. We are not helping her by this type of post to an open board.

Just my two cents.

[Guest guest]

At 15:23 -0400 7/9/01, JEB874@... wrote:

>>. I will refrain from writing about you but then

>>please refrain from IMing me every single time I go on-line.

>>

>

>

>Ditto !

Y'all, go to your privacy settings on your buddy list and block her

from IMing or emailing you, and she won't be able to see when you're

online, if that's what you want.

Eudora users (I'm not sure about any other email clients) can also

filter any mail with her email address in the the 'From:' field

directly to the trash without reading it if they like.

--stella

[Guest guest]

OOooo....now I'm sorry I threw in my 2 cents- now we're tossing flaming brands down the hole? C'mon.

RE: Re: Re: What can we learn from ?-PSYCH EVAL

Why is that ? No one has been anything but kind to you here and you've done nothing but ignored everyones attempt to help you. You posted and we all have responded. You know what you need to do. You opened up the can of worms so to say. You have our attention and now you don't want us to make comments because you don't like what we're saying. I'm sorry but if you want to post here making us believe you are in dire straits and make us worry about you, then we have the right to talk about it. You brought it to us.AJHappy2knowU2@... wrote:>please refrain all comments about me, i am very disappointed with most people >in this group ecept terry, nancy f, ellen and hank on most days,,,karen>----------------------------------------------------------------------