RE: Re: Keeping weight off after DS

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In a message dated 07/10/2001 6:24:39 AM Central Daylight Time,

peabean@... writes:

<< Just noticed Rita state that only 70% keep the weight they lose off after

DS. That figure may be correct for RNY or other types of WS surgery but the

main difference with DS long term is this: >>

I think this is just stated a little incorrectly. DS patients keep 70% of

there excess weight off after having the procedure.

Dawn--Chicago metro--south

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165 5'4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal, weight goal may need to be adjusted.

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting!

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> Just noticed Rita state that only 70% keep the weight they

> lose off after DS.

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought she was saying that most DS

patients lose and keep off 70% of their excess weight, on average. This

goes along with the clinical data that seems to consistently report

70-80% excess weight lost and maintained long-term.

Dr. Hess' report concludes, " Results: There is an average maximum weight

loss of 80% excess weight which occurs at 24 month post-operative and

continues at a 70% level for eight years. " , and further down in the

report, there is a table showing the breakdown:

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/1998Hess/1998hess.html

Weight lost % of patients

----------- -------------

Excellent (80% EWL) 79.8%

Good (60% EWL) 13.0%

Fair (40% EWL) 6.9%

Poor (20% EWL) 0.03%

Failure (<2% EWL) 0.00%

So, right around 80% of folks lost and kept off 80% of their excess

weight.

M.

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in Valrico, FL, age 38

Starting weight 299, now 156

Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0

Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99

http://www.duodenalswitch.com

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Re: Re: Keeping weight off after DS

> In a message dated 07/10/2001 6:24:39 AM Central Daylight Time,

> peabean@... writes:

>

> << Just noticed Rita state that only 70% keep the weight they lose off

after

> DS. That figure may be correct for RNY or other types of WS surgery but

the

> main difference with DS long term is this: >>

>

> I think this is just stated a little incorrectly. DS patients keep 70% of

> there excess weight off after having the procedure.

I heard it was 80%......any data somewhere?

Judie

>

>

> Dawn--Chicago metro--south

> Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

> BPD/DS

> www.duodenalswitch.com

> 267 to 165 5'4 "

> size 22 to size 10

> have made size goal, weight goal may need to be adjusted.

> no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting!

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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In a message dated 07/10/2001 6:40:47 PM Central Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

<<

I heard it was 80%......any data somewhere?

Judie

> >>

I had heard it was around 80% also. I was just showing how the what the

numbers mean must have gotten messed up a bit.

Dawn--Chicago metro--south

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165 5'4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal, weight goal may need to be adjusted.

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting!

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In a message dated 07/10/2001 6:40:47 PM Central Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

<<

I heard it was 80%......any data somewhere?

Judie

> >>

I had heard it was around 80% also. I was just showing how the what the

numbers mean must have gotten messed up a bit.

Dawn--Chicago metro--south

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165 5'4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal, weight goal may need to be adjusted.

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting!

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> Ok, so if somebody weighs 350lbs. or more, at an 80% loss they are

> still going to weigh close to 200lbs. I wonder if there are studies

> done that show whether people who start out at higher weights tend to

> lose more or less than the 80%. At only 5'2, I am going to have to

> lose more than that to get out of the obesity range. Any ideas on

> this.

> Shirley

Shirley, Dr. Baltasar's latest published report does talk about the

difference in outcomes between morbidly obese and super-morbidly obese

patients. Take a look at his report at the following URL:

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/baltasar.pdf

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file. It is located at:

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> RE: Re: Keeping weight off after DS

>

>

> > Ok, so if somebody weighs 350lbs. or more, at an 80% loss they are

> > still going to weigh close to 200lbs. I wonder if there

> > are studies done that show whether people who start out at higher

> > weights tend to lose more or less than the 80%. At only 5'2, I am

> > going to have to lose more than that to get out of the obesity

> > range. Any ideas on this.

> > Shirley

>

> Shirley, Dr. Baltasar's latest published report does talk about the

> difference in outcomes between morbidly obese and super-morbidly obese

> patients. Take a look at his report at the following URL:

>

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/baltasar.pdf

You will need the free Adobe Acrobat Reader in order to view this .pdf

file. It is located at:

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/baltasar.pdf

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In a message dated 07/11/2001 2:15:46 AM Central Daylight Time,

jinglebell4u@... writes:

<<

Ok, so if somebody weighs 350lbs. or more, at an 80% loss they are

still going to weigh close to 200lbs. I wonder if there are studies

done that show whether people who start out at higher weights tend to

lose more or less than the 80%. At only 5'2, I am going to have to

lose more than that to get out of the obesity range. Any ideas on

this.

Shirley

>>

I do think we have to be realistic about what the surgery can do. It tends

to get people to a " normal " (but not necessarily by the numbers) size. Most

of us will not end up a " willowy beauty " or even thin. I lost about 76% of

my excess weight. I am barely out of the obese range. When I do my BMI, I

am still " severely overweight " . However, I am wearing a size 10 (sometimes

even an 8) and my weight is so stable it is remarkable. I don't worry a

thing about what I eat except protein first. None of the surgeries give you

better weight loss than this one. It is important to keep in perspective how

much better it feels to not be carrying around that extra 100 or 150 pounds

24/7.

Dawn--Chicago metro--south

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165 5'4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal, weight goal may need to be adjusted.

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 07/11/2001 2:15:46 AM Central Daylight Time,

jinglebell4u@... writes:

<<

Ok, so if somebody weighs 350lbs. or more, at an 80% loss they are

still going to weigh close to 200lbs. I wonder if there are studies

done that show whether people who start out at higher weights tend to

lose more or less than the 80%. At only 5'2, I am going to have to

lose more than that to get out of the obesity range. Any ideas on

this.

Shirley

>>

I do think we have to be realistic about what the surgery can do. It tends

to get people to a " normal " (but not necessarily by the numbers) size. Most

of us will not end up a " willowy beauty " or even thin. I lost about 76% of

my excess weight. I am barely out of the obese range. When I do my BMI, I

am still " severely overweight " . However, I am wearing a size 10 (sometimes

even an 8) and my weight is so stable it is remarkable. I don't worry a

thing about what I eat except protein first. None of the surgeries give you

better weight loss than this one. It is important to keep in perspective how

much better it feels to not be carrying around that extra 100 or 150 pounds

24/7.

Dawn--Chicago metro--south

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165 5'4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal, weight goal may need to be adjusted.

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting!

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At 08:100 -0400 7/11/01, dwkteach@... wrote:

> I lost about 76% of

>my excess weight. I am barely out of the obese range. When I do my BMI, I

>am still " severely overweight " . However, I am wearing a size 10 (sometimes

>even an 8) and my weight is so stable it is remarkable.

Oh, Dawn -- you are such a comfort! You are where I would like to be

-- comfortable in my weight but in a size 10!

--stella

--

Stella Sloop MAILTO:serenn@...

5'3 " BMI 51 Weight 292

BC/BS of TN (denied 6/12/01; in appeal)

Dr Booth et al

)O(

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At 08:100 -0400 7/11/01, dwkteach@... wrote:

> I lost about 76% of

>my excess weight. I am barely out of the obese range. When I do my BMI, I

>am still " severely overweight " . However, I am wearing a size 10 (sometimes

>even an 8) and my weight is so stable it is remarkable.

Oh, Dawn -- you are such a comfort! You are where I would like to be

-- comfortable in my weight but in a size 10!

--stella

--

Stella Sloop MAILTO:serenn@...

5'3 " BMI 51 Weight 292

BC/BS of TN (denied 6/12/01; in appeal)

Dr Booth et al

)O(