Re: 2nd Nutritionist Appointment

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Jeanne, I feel your frustration and I know that with

your condition if makes for weight loss to be even

harder and sometimes seems impossible to obtain but

you know based on what you typed here that there are

some things that you can do (which you have already

done to lose 5%) and continue to do that just might

help you reach not only the 5% but the ultimate 10%

Kaiser is requiring of everyone to lose.

Why don't you try to continue removing those things

that you did that helped you to lose the 5%. I am

almost certain that this will help you and even though

I know it is discouraging please hang in there. You

will get there. Sometimes we hit potholes on the road

of life. We just have to stop a minute and take a

look at the damage but continue on the road once we

have accessed and found a solution to the problem. I

know this did not offer much to help you but I am

hoping that something in my email response helps you.

Take care and keep us posted.

Pam Marsh

--- topazmisskitty topazmisskitty@...> wrote:

> Well today is the day I go and do battle with the

> nutritionist. I

> requested a second appointment because in the last 6

> months I have

> been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I

> am going in there

> armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I

> have) It was

> described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss

> mountain with a

> 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily

> medication for this

> and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility

> to lose that

> (*#@^%&*% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my

> health care by

> requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of

> reaching it. I did

> lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the

> bagels, fast food, pizza

> and crap I was eating.

> I know there are other legal alternatives I can

> persue if I don't

> receive the answers I want today. I am so at my

> wits end and tired of

> following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

>

> Jeanne

>

>

>

>

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Hi Jeanne, I also have hypothyroidism and have been on medication for years.

It was very difficult for me to loose the weight that Kaiser required and I like

you got very very frustrated. But you have to stick with it, it sounds like you

have already changed your diet, so continue with that and exercise. Exercise

was the best thing for me in conjunction with the diet. Hang in there, it will

come off. I had my surgery on 10/12 and am doing great. Your day will be here

before you know. Keep up the good work you already lost 5% and 5% will be easy.

>

> Well today is the day I go and do battle with the nutritionist. I

> requested a second appointment because in the last 6 months I have

> been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I am going in there

> armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I have) It was

> described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss mountain with a

> 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily medication for this

> and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility to lose that

> (*#@^%&*% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my health care by

> requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of reaching it. I did

> lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the bagels, fast food, pizza

> and crap I was eating.

> I know there are other legal alternatives I can persue if I don't

> receive the answers I want today. I am so at my wits end and tired of

> following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

>

> Jeanne

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pam for the words of encouragement. The problem is that I

never added that crap back into my diet and still not losing.

Jeanne

>

> > Well today is the day I go and do battle with the

> > nutritionist. I

> > requested a second appointment because in the last 6

> > months I have

> > been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I

> > am going in there

> > armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I

> > have) It was

> > described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss

> > mountain with a

> > 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily

> > medication for this

> > and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility

> > to lose that

> > (*#@^%&*% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my

> > health care by

> > requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of

> > reaching it. I did

> > lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the

> > bagels, fast food, pizza

> > and crap I was eating.

> > I know there are other legal alternatives I can

> > persue if I don't

> > receive the answers I want today. I am so at my

> > wits end and tired of

> > following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

> >

> > Jeanne

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marita,

Thanks for the encouragement, I sure need alot at this point. Can I

ask what you ate to lose?

Jeanne

> >

> > Well today is the day I go and do battle with the nutritionist.

I

> > requested a second appointment because in the last 6 months I

have

> > been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I am going in

there

> > armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I have) It was

> > described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss mountain

with a

> > 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily medication for

this

> > and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility to lose

that

> > (*#@^%&*% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my health care by

> > requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of reaching it. I

did

> > lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the bagels, fast food,

pizza

> > and crap I was eating.

> > I know there are other legal alternatives I can persue if I

don't

> > receive the answers I want today. I am so at my wits end and

tired of

> > following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

> >

> > Jeanne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanne, I would start the morning with breakfast and that was usually a

protein drink, especially during the week. On the weekends I would have 1

scrambled egg, 1 wheat toast, decaf coffee. Lunch would be a good healthy

salad. Dinner would be chicken or fish, maybe on the weekends we would have

beef. No potatoes, I sticked to only vegetables. I drank llots of water at

least 70oz. a day, which I'm still doing. I also joined Curves and go there at

least 3 times a week, after work. After I get my staples out I will go back to

Curves, right now I'm just walking in the neighborhood. I'm 15 lbs. down since

surgery on 10/12. You hang in there, if I can do it so can you.

Marita

> > >

> > > Well today is the day I go and do battle with the nutritionist.

> I

> > > requested a second appointment because in the last 6 months I

> have

> > > been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I am going in

> there

> > > armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I have) It was

> > > described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss mountain

> with a

> > > 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily medication for

> this

> > > and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility to lose

> that

> > > (*#@^%&*% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my health care by

> > > requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of reaching it. I

> did

> > > lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the bagels, fast food,

> pizza

> > > and crap I was eating.

> > > I know there are other legal alternatives I can persue if I

> don't

> > > receive the answers I want today. I am so at my wits end and

> tired of

> > > following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

> > >

> > > Jeanne

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jeanne: Have you asked about water pills? Like you I also had great

difficulty lossing that 10% and I followed all the rules - it was

after the doctor prescripted water pills that the weight started to

come off.

Luci

> >

> > > Well today is the day I go and do battle with the

> > > nutritionist. I

> > > requested a second appointment because in the last 6

> > > months I have

> > > been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I

> > > am going in there

> > > armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I

> > > have) It was

> > > described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss

> > > mountain with a

> > > 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily

> > > medication for this

> > > and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility

> > > to lose that

> > > (*#@^%&*% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my

> > > health care by

> > > requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of

> > > reaching it. I did

> > > lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the

> > > bagels, fast food, pizza

> > > and crap I was eating.

> > > I know there are other legal alternatives I can

> > > persue if I don't

> > > receive the answers I want today. I am so at my

> > > wits end and tired of

> > > following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

> > >

> > > Jeanne

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

>

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Marita,

Beleive it or not, my diet has been just like that for 6 months with

the exception of a trip to Sweet Tomatos now and then for the corn

bread and soup I devour. I drink well over the the amount of water

required. My last lab test had my TSH at 5.5 and that is right on

the border, so I have made an appt to see my PCP about maybe upping

my medication and see if that works.

I did meet with the Nutritionist, we went over my food logs that I

have been keeping. I was going over the 1200 by about 150 - 200

calories a day. But, I was adding in a protein shake to build

myself up. She suggested that I do a " Slim Fast " type of diet. 2

Shakes and a healthy meal. I scoffed at the thought of drinking a

Slim Fast shake and told her I was drinking other whey proteins.

She asked if the were thte kind form Vitalady. Of course they are

as they are the best I think. So it looks as though the medical

field is starting to catch up with the nutrition requirements of WLS

folks.

So in short, I am going to give this a try and follow it 100% cross

my fingers and pray this works. I am so ready to have this surgery

and feel like this past year has helped my to come to terms with my

health and improve it and live life more fully. Thanks to all and

the gentle pushes to move forward.

Jeanne

> > > >

> > > > Well today is the day I go and do battle with the

nutritionist.

> > I

> > > > requested a second appointment because in the last 6 months

I

> > have

> > > > been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I am going

in

> > there

> > > > armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I have) It

was

> > > > described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss

mountain

> > with a

> > > > 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily medication

for

> > this

> > > > and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility to lose

> > that

> > > > (*#@^%&*% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my health care

by

> > > > requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of reaching

it. I

> > did

> > > > lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the bagels, fast

food,

> > pizza

> > > > and crap I was eating.

> > > > I know there are other legal alternatives I can persue if I

> > don't

> > > > receive the answers I want today. I am so at my wits end and

> > tired of

> > > > following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

> > > >

> > > > Jeanne

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, Actually been on them for 10 years, blood pressure problems.

Jeanne

> > >

> > > > Well today is the day I go and do battle with the

> > > > nutritionist. I

> > > > requested a second appointment because in the last 6

> > > > months I have

> > > > been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I

> > > > am going in there

> > > > armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I

> > > > have) It was

> > > > described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss

> > > > mountain with a

> > > > 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily

> > > > medication for this

> > > > and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility

> > > > to lose that

> > > > (*#@^%&*% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my

> > > > health care by

> > > > requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of

> > > > reaching it. I did

> > > > lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the

> > > > bagels, fast food, pizza

> > > > and crap I was eating.

> > > > I know there are other legal alternatives I can

> > > > persue if I don't

> > > > receive the answers I want today. I am so at my

> > > > wits end and tired of

> > > > following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

> > > >

> > > > Jeanne

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________

> > > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

> > > http://mail.yahoo.com

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jeanne,

You did well losing the first 5%, and your body let you because you had really cut the calories. By the time you lost the 5% your body was ready for a change, that's why we maintain. So by going to 1200 now and just increasing your exercise just a little, I bet the next 5% will come off. Keep up the good work and don't give in. Do it, I know you can. Donnatopazmisskitty wrote:

Marita,Beleive it or not, my diet has been just like that for 6 months with the exception of a trip to Sweet Tomatos now and then for the corn bread and soup I devour. I drink well over the the amount of water required. My last lab test had my TSH at 5.5 and that is right on the border, so I have made an appt to see my PCP about maybe upping my medication and see if that works.I did meet with the Nutritionist, we went over my food logs that I have been keeping. I was going over the 1200 by about 150 - 200 calories a day. But, I was adding in a protein shake to build myself up. She suggested that I do a "Slim Fast" type of diet. 2 Shakes and a healthy meal. I scoffed at the thought of drinking a Slim Fast shake and told her I was drinking other whey proteins. She asked if the

were thte kind form Vitalady. Of course they are as they are the best I think. So it looks as though the medical field is starting to catch up with the nutrition requirements of WLS folks.So in short, I am going to give this a try and follow it 100% cross my fingers and pray this works. I am so ready to have this surgery and feel like this past year has helped my to come to terms with my health and improve it and live life more fully. Thanks to all and the gentle pushes to move forward.Jeanne> > > >> > > > Well today is the day I go and

do battle with the nutritionist. > > I > > > > requested a second appointment because in the last 6 months I > > have > > > > been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I am going in > > there > > > > armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I have) It was > > > > described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss mountain > > with a > > > > 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily medication for > > this > > > > and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility to lose > > that > > > > (*#@^% & *% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my health care by > > > > requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of reaching it. I > > did > > > > lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the bagels, fast food, >

> pizza > > > > and crap I was eating. > > > > I know there are other legal alternatives I can persue if I > > don't > > > > receive the answers I want today. I am so at my wits end and > > tired of > > > > following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.> > > > > > > > Jeanne> > > >> > >> >>Donna JordonDSJordon@...

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> Jeanne:

I also used water pills and believe they helped me. I still drank all of my

water but the pills sure did help with my retention. Maybe this is your answer.

Kristie

>

> Date: 2005/10/22 Sat PM 04:28:42 PDT

> To: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients

> Subject: Re: 2nd Nutritionist

Appointment

>

>

Jeanne: Have you asked about water pills? Like you I also had great

difficulty lossing that 10% and I followed all the rules - it was

after the doctor prescripted water pills that the weight started to

come off.

Luci

> >

> > > Well today is the day I go and do battle with the

> > > nutritionist. I

> > > requested a second appointment because in the last 6

> > > months I have

> > > been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I

> > > am going in there

> > > armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I

> > > have) It was

> > > described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss

> > > mountain with a

> > > 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily

> > > medication for this

> > > and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility

> > > to lose that

> > > (*#@^% & *% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my

> > > health care by

> > > requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of

> > > reaching it. I did

> > > lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the

> > > bagels, fast food, pizza

> > > and crap I was eating.

> > > I know there are other legal alternatives I can

> > > persue if I don't

> > > receive the answers I want today. I am so at my

> > > wits end and tired of

> > > following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

> > >

> > > Jeanne

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Jeanne, my TSH level was up to 17 in July, Dr. Umbach (SSF) wouldn't do surgery

until it got down to between 7-9. My primary doctor increased the meds to

375mg. and it was down to 4 by the end of September. Your level isn't really

high at all. Are you exercising at all? I would suggest you try the slimfast

diet for at least two weeks and see how that goes. Good luck to you, believe me

I know how hard it is. Stick with it, like I've said before if I can do it,

anybody can.

Marita

> > > > >

> > > > > Well today is the day I go and do battle with the

> nutritionist.

> > > I

> > > > > requested a second appointment because in the last 6 months

> I

> > > have

> > > > > been sticking to plan after plan and no results. I am going

> in

> > > there

> > > > > armed with information on hypothyroidism (which I have) It

> was

> > > > > described somewhere as trying to climb a weight loss

> mountain

> > > with a

> > > > > 500 pound weight on your back. I do take daily medication

> for

> > > this

> > > > > and I feel this is mostly the cause of my unablility to lose

> > > that

> > > > > (*#@^%&*% 10%. I feel Kaiser is failing me in my health care

> by

> > > > > requiring a 10% from someone who in uncapable of reaching

> it. I

> > > did

> > > > > lose 5% but that was from cutting out all the bagels, fast

> food,

> > > pizza

> > > > > and crap I was eating.

> > > > > I know there are other legal alternatives I can persue if I

> > > don't

> > > > > receive the answers I want today. I am so at my wits end and

> > > tired of

> > > > > following the Kaiser rules and getting nowhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jeanne

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>