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I think that there are at least 2 other good reasons that surgeons are

starting to offer the DS. First is patients asking for it and second is

that the sustained weightloss is resolves the main complaint RNY patients

have.

Money? I don't think so. The insurance companies do *not* pay a

substantial amount more for this more complex surgery than for the RNY.

Psychological testing is supposed to determine if the patient has/is capable

of the understanding and motivation adequate for following life time

obligations for follow-up and taking care of nutritional needs. Unrealistic

expectations are also of concern to some surgeons. NIH has a psychological

screening as one of their recommendations, so it is done by a lot of WL

surgeons. I'm not convinced that they know how to use or ignore the

information obtained, or that this is the best use of psychological

screening.

in Seattle

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> In a message dated 6/17/01 11:49:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> duodenalswitch writes:

>

> << Now that the medical community is starting to view morbid obesity as a

> disease and to embrace the surgery, those who have been in the field are

> concerned that the newer surgeons will not have proper training, will run

> into problems and ruin the good reputation that these surgeons have spent

> years establishing. Time will tell. >>

> YOu know what? I think I am jaded, but I bet the ones who are adding this

> surgery now just see it as a way to make more money. I would think that

is

> the most prevalent reason for adding it, rather than thinking over-weight

is

> a disease and caring so much about helping out all the morbidly obese out

> there. I know I would rather stick with the ones who have been doing this

> surgery when it wasn't socially acceptable to help out the " fat " people

that

> those other docs kept putting on diets for years and looking down on.

Guess

> I have just had too many doctors who didn't have a clue the reasons for my

> weight.

> By the way, I know psychological interview is part of the testing process.

> What is that for, exactly? Are they looking to see that you are not

counting

> on this surgery to make your life 100% perfect after it, or are they

looking

> to see that if you don't get the surgery, you are tired of living such a

> depressing life? I feel both of those are correct in my case, but I would

> hope I would answer the questions the way they want them answered and not

> blow my chances because some shrink thought I should " just get disciplined

> and go on a diet " instead of doing the surgery.

> Carole

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It is my opinion, and it's just a tiny light in a big fire, that a good

percentage of an increase in this specialty and in surgery is money. That's

what makes the world go around and whether we like it or not, it is usually

a motivator for any kind of change. However, we are at an advantage. The

Doctors are fighting the insurance companies for us and I truly believe that

most if not all of them have some sense of compassion for those of us who

suffer from Obesity. Do your research on your surgeon if you feel they are

in it just for the money (at least more for the money and a little less for

compassion) run! Trust your instincts.

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Re: new surgeons

In a message dated 6/17/01 11:49:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

duodenalswitch writes:

<< Now that the medical community is starting to view morbid obesity as a

disease and to embrace the surgery, those who have been in the field are

concerned that the newer surgeons will not have proper training, will run

into problems and ruin the good reputation that these surgeons have spent

years establishing. Time will tell. >>

YOu know what? I think I am jaded, but I bet the ones who are adding this

surgery now just see it as a way to make more money. I would think that is

the most prevalent reason for adding it, rather than thinking over-weight is

a disease and caring so much about helping out all the morbidly obese out

there. I know I would rather stick with the ones who have been doing this

surgery when it wasn't socially acceptable to help out the " fat " people that

those other docs kept putting on diets for years and looking down on. Guess

I have just had too many doctors who didn't have a clue the reasons for my

weight.

By the way, I know psychological interview is part of the testing process.

What is that for, exactly? Are they looking to see that you are not

counting

on this surgery to make your life 100% perfect after it, or are they looking

to see that if you don't get the surgery, you are tired of living such a

depressing life? I feel both of those are correct in my case, but I would

hope I would answer the questions the way they want them answered and not

blow my chances because some shrink thought I should " just get disciplined

and go on a diet " instead of doing the surgery.

Carole

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