Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Hi. I just read a story about a child growing up with a clubfoot and I was wondering the difference between the AFO and the DBB? What determines the use of either DBB or AFO? Is one better than the other? Thank you for all your help Corrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Afo's have their place in the orthotic world, but they have no place in the treatment of club feet. The DBB is a pair of opened ended shoes on a bar. The bar is a certain length, the shoes are set at a certain angle - all this depending on the particular child wearing them but roughly the bar is shoulder length and the feet are set about 70 degrees with the toes pointing outwards. The AFO is a pair of plastic boots. Very, very expensive plastic boots. The treatment of club foot (non surgicaly) requires the use of the DBB, and requires the DBB be used religiously by the parents. It is the bar and the angel of the toes that is maintaining the cf correction that was achieved through prior casting. An AFO cannot hold this angle, they are little more than high top boots, thus a cf child in AFO's is going to relapse and end up with complications. My son wore AFO's for 18 months and ended up having surgery. They didn't help his cf at all. The DBB on the other hand - my other son wears those (both bilateral club foot boys) and his feet are beautifully corrected and pain free. If you dr. is advising an AFO, run. s. afo question Hi. I just read a story about a child growing up with a clubfoot and I was wondering the difference between the AFO and the DBB? What determines the use of either DBB or AFO? Is one better than the other? Thank you for all your help Corrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 If you go to our website http://www.geocities.com/chele323232 there is a photo of my son in the AFO it is the plastic looking brace he has on the short one below the knee is an AFO, the long one he has on with the knee joint is an KAFO, AFO is ankle foot orthotic I think, and KAFO is knee ankle foot orthotic, ...I think. My suggestion is use the DBB, AFO's and KAFO's did not help my son much, but the DBB is wonderful. Michele Yoder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 I know a lot of people have very strong feelings about AFO's not being used for clufoot treatment and I'm wondering what everyone thinks about the modified AFO mounted to the bar that Dr. Dobb's is using. Just to explain a little more for those who don't know what he is doing; they take a plaster mold of the baby's foot and make a rubber " bootie " that slips over his foot and is then strapped into a hard plastic shell just like an AFO. This is then mounted on the DBB at the proper outward rotation just like the shoes. There are a few pictures posted in the CFpics photos section. I posted this a while back and was a little surprised that I didn't get more feedback, I really am interested in what you all think about this. Dr. Dobbs is interested in feedback as well. I feel like this is a great thing -- Sammy only wore the Markells for 4 days but I just think this is so much better, if Dr. Dobbs can perfect this brace so it can be mainstream I think there wouldn't be so many problems with relapses from non-compliance. Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated. Thanks, > Afo's have their place in the orthotic world, but they have no place in the treatment of club feet. The DBB is a pair of opened ended shoes on a bar. The bar is a certain length, the shoes are set at a certain angle - all this depending on the particular child wearing them but roughly the bar is shoulder length and the feet are set about 70 degrees with the toes pointing outwards. > > The AFO is a pair of plastic boots. Very, very expensive plastic boots. > > The treatment of club foot (non surgicaly) requires the use of the DBB, and requires the DBB be used religiously by the parents. It is the bar and the angel of the toes that is maintaining the cf correction that was achieved through prior casting. An AFO cannot hold this angle, they are little more than high top boots, thus a cf child in AFO's is going to relapse and end up with complications. > > My son wore AFO's for 18 months and ended up having surgery. They didn't help his cf at all. The DBB on the other hand - my other son wears those (both bilateral club foot boys) and his feet are beautifully corrected and pain free. > > If you dr. is advising an AFO, run. > s. > > afo question > > > > > Hi. I just read a story about a child growing up with a clubfoot and > I was wondering the difference between the AFO and the DBB? What > determines the use of either DBB or AFO? Is one better than the other? > Thank you for all your help > Corrina > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 I'm not sure what to think about it personally... I think that it might sweat like regular AFO's and I don't think I'd enjoy dealing with that. And I was also a little concerned about how it doesn't allow the ankle to bend, the movement the shoes allow the ankle seems like a very good thing to me. But other than that, it did look comfortable. When I first came here and on the CF list I found pictures of a DBB with AFO's attached and with our problems in the beginning I thought it might be a good thing. But after hearing about the sweating problem I didn't really want them. I'm not exactly sure where the advantage is over the Markell shoes because as I've found, once the shoe is fitted properly and the foot is corrected they really aren't problematic. Now, if he could get to let him attach his sandals to this brace it'd be cool! I must admit, I would love for Darbi to have some sandals but the Markell's are nice and comfortable for her and besides them being so tight at the toes that one of her toes is curving from the pressure I like them fine. I wonder if this would disappear with the s? I really don't want her to have a curved toe forever... I need to take pics and show y'all what's going on with that. I didn't bother to mention it to her doc when she was there last week... he'd already said she didn't need them anymore at all and if I complained about it he'd tell me the only option was to discard them. hummm... Kori At 11:05 AM 1/27/2005, you wrote: >I know a lot of people have very strong feelings about AFO's not being >used for clufoot treatment and I'm wondering what everyone thinks >about the modified AFO mounted to the bar that Dr. Dobb's is using. >Just to explain a little more for those who don't know what he is >doing; they take a plaster mold of the baby's foot and make a rubber > " bootie " that slips over his foot and is then strapped into a hard >plastic shell just like an AFO. This is then mounted on the DBB at the >proper outward rotation just like the shoes. There are a few pictures >posted in the CFpics photos section. >I posted this a while back and was a little surprised that I didn't >get more feedback, I really am interested in what you all think about >this. Dr. Dobbs is interested in feedback as well. I feel like this >is a great thing -- Sammy only wore the Markells for 4 days but I just >think this is so much better, if Dr. Dobbs can perfect this brace so >it can be mainstream I think there wouldn't be so many problems with >relapses from non-compliance. Your thoughts and comments are greatly >appreciated. > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > Afo's have their place in the orthotic world, but they have no place >in the treatment of club feet. The DBB is a pair of opened ended >shoes on a bar. The bar is a certain length, the shoes are set at a >certain angle - all this depending on the particular child wearing >them but roughly the bar is shoulder length and the feet are set about >70 degrees with the toes pointing outwards. > > > > The AFO is a pair of plastic boots. Very, very expensive plastic boots. > > > > The treatment of club foot (non surgicaly) requires the use of the >DBB, and requires the DBB be used religiously by the parents. It is >the bar and the angel of the toes that is maintaining the cf >correction that was achieved through prior casting. An AFO cannot >hold this angle, they are little more than high top boots, thus a cf >child in AFO's is going to relapse and end up with complications. > > > > My son wore AFO's for 18 months and ended up having surgery. They >didn't help his cf at all. The DBB on the other hand - my other son >wears those (both bilateral club foot boys) and his feet are >beautifully corrected and pain free. > > > > > > If you dr. is advising an AFO, run. > > s. > > > > afo question > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I just read a story about a child growing up with a clubfoot and > > I was wondering the difference between the AFO and the DBB? What > > determines the use of either DBB or AFO? Is one better than the other? > > Thank you for all your help > > Corrina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Thanks for the input Kori. I've also been curious and I would like to ask Dr. Dobbs about the ankle bending part. The sweating thing is no big deal to me, I guess baby feet are just too cute to stink that much, lol! I've been wondering if they put air holes in the plastic if that would help with the sweating. The one advantage I see from what I've read in other posts seems to be the ease of putting them on. I seem to hear a lot of people saying that they can't put the Markell's on by themselves or only Mom does it because no one else can do it right. We find these so easy to take on and off it is no problem to show others, i.e. grandparents, daycare providers, babysitters, etc. how to do it. There's no shoving the foot in and pulling that strap sooo tight, etc. There's also no big issue with clothing because if he dirties a pair of pants w/o snaps it is no big deal to take the shoes off to change his clothes. Good news! Dr. Dobbs did tell me that Dr. Ponseti is working with on possibly doing this type of brace with the sandals, won't that be great! Is it her big toe or pinkie toe that is curving in? If it is from the shoes I bet it will go away once she gets out of them due to her feet continuing to grow for years after she's done with DBB wear. Kori, I would also like to add that I really appreciate your thoughts -- it seems you always have something intelligent to say when someone is looking for answers. When I read through the posts I always think, oh look, Kori has answered this one, I want to read what she has to say; or I bet Kori will have a good answer to this person's question. This group has really been therapeutic for me in not obsessing about Sammy's treatment and I just really enjoy reading what everyone has to say and about other's experiences. I still have problems with my clubfoot after multiple surgeries -- they are talking about doing surgery again to help me and I just don't want Sammy to experience any of that! Thanks again, > > > Afo's have their place in the orthotic world, but they have no place > >in the treatment of club feet. The DBB is a pair of opened ended > >shoes on a bar. The bar is a certain length, the shoes are set at a > >certain angle - all this depending on the particular child wearing > >them but roughly the bar is shoulder length and the feet are set about > >70 degrees with the toes pointing outwards. > > > > > > The AFO is a pair of plastic boots. Very, very expensive plastic boots. > > > > > > The treatment of club foot (non surgicaly) requires the use of the > >DBB, and requires the DBB be used religiously by the parents. It is > >the bar and the angel of the toes that is maintaining the cf > >correction that was achieved through prior casting. An AFO cannot > >hold this angle, they are little more than high top boots, thus a cf > >child in AFO's is going to relapse and end up with complications. > > > > > > My son wore AFO's for 18 months and ended up having surgery. They > >didn't help his cf at all. The DBB on the other hand - my other son > >wears those (both bilateral club foot boys) and his feet are > >beautifully corrected and pain free. > > > > > > > > > > If you dr. is advising an AFO, run. > > > s. > > > > > > afo question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I just read a story about a child growing up with a clubfoot and > > > I was wondering the difference between the AFO and the DBB? What > > > determines the use of either DBB or AFO? Is one better than the other? > > > Thank you for all your help > > > Corrina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Ahhh... you're too kind! I just spend too much time online! >Thanks for the input Kori. I've also been curious and I would like to >ask Dr. Dobbs about the ankle bending part. The sweating thing is no >big deal to me, I guess baby feet are just too cute to stink that >much, lol! I've been wondering if they put air holes in the plastic >if that would help with the sweating. I've heard people say they do that and it doesn't help so much. Powder in the AFO is helpful I've heard. I don't know about your baby's feet but Darbi sure had stinky feet when she did 23/7, I didn't think it was possible but they did not smell good! LOL >The one advantage I see from what I've read in other posts seems to be >the ease of putting them on. I seem to hear a lot of people saying >that they can't put the Markell's on by themselves or only Mom does it >because no one else can do it right. We find these so easy to take on >and off it is no problem to show others, i.e. grandparents, daycare >providers, babysitters, etc. how to do it. There's no shoving the >foot in and pulling that strap sooo tight, etc. There's also no big >issue with clothing because if he dirties a pair of pants w/o snaps it >is no big deal to take the shoes off to change his clothes. those ARE good perks I've got to say. I think everyone is different in regards to putting them on though. My mom who has only applied them perhaps 3 times total does it right every time. DH could do it too and I think he has... but he doesn't change a lot of diapers either so bedtime with the Darbs is by default my territory... I can get him to put the boys to bed for me though so it's not that big a deal that I always put them on. It's easier a lot of the time to get Darbi down than these two boys who talk and bounce around and want me to lie with them, etc... I think, at the older ages that it's easier than the young babies. I remember sometimes it seemed like it took 5min or more to get the shoes on. Now it's not nearly that long and does go pretty darn quick. I'm curious about how tight the fit is on those. Is it 100% snug or does the foot move around and the heel lift up a little in these? >Good news! Dr. Dobbs did tell me that Dr. Ponseti is working with > on possibly doing this type of brace with the sandals, won't >that be great! Wow, I can't wait. I really would like to try the moveable bar. Now I want the sandals and the Dobbs bar lol. Give me EVERYTHING! >Is it her big toe or pinkie toe that is curving in? It's her second toe, the one next to the big toe. It curves to the outside of her foot actually. Like a *C* but not so rounded. It's in the bone, I can feel it curve. I will take a pic and send to the pics list. It seems to be getting worse. > If it is from the >shoes I bet it will go away once she gets out of them due to her feet >continuing to grow for years after she's done with DBB wear. I'm hoping, but the way the bone feels it seems like it could be a permanent thing. I know it's minor as compared to other things but I think she'll want straight toes as well as straight feet when she's a teenager :~} Kori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 I think I am probably just biased against the Markell's because they did such a number on Sammy's heels. I just feel terrible about the sores he got, even on his " good " foot and that it's probably all my fault because I wasn't getting the heels down all the way makes me feel even worse. Just makes me mad when I see that big scar on his heel after a month has gone by, it looks like it could end up being a permanent scar His pediatrician said the other day, " and this is where they did the heel cord release " , forgetting that that wasn't even his clubfoot. You are lucky, bedtime for both Jenna and Sammy is my job at our house. Hubby goes to bed early because he gets up so early in the a.m. Sometimes Jenna just falls asleep curled up on the couch next to us by default if I'm still nursing Sammy when it is her bedtime -- it's amazing how fast she just zonks out, she's wide awake one minute and then I look over at her and she is out. The shoe is really snug, but I can't say it doesn't move around at all. Every once in a while he is still able to slide back a little where you can tell his heel is lifting up -- then we just unstrap the velcro and slide the foot back into proper position and re-strap it. I think it has to do with the heel not being fully formed because he never slips on his non-cf side. Just like with the Markells you can't tell, other than from the position of the toes, if the heel is down. I'm thinking about suggesting that they try cutting out the heel so you can see that part. On Darbi's toe, have you asked her Pediatrician yet? I wonder if it is similar to hammertoes which are correctable? Well, I better get going. Thanks again for the feedback! > Ahhh... you're too kind! I just spend too much time online! > > > > > > >Thanks for the input Kori. I've also been curious and I would like to > >ask Dr. Dobbs about the ankle bending part. The sweating thing is no > >big deal to me, I guess baby feet are just too cute to stink that > >much, lol! I've been wondering if they put air holes in the plastic > >if that would help with the sweating. > > I've heard people say they do that and it doesn't help so much. Powder in > the AFO is helpful I've heard. I don't know about your baby's feet but > Darbi sure had stinky feet when she did 23/7, I didn't think it was > possible but they did not smell good! LOL > > >The one advantage I see from what I've read in other posts seems to be > >the ease of putting them on. I seem to hear a lot of people saying > >that they can't put the Markell's on by themselves or only Mom does it > >because no one else can do it right. We find these so easy to take on > >and off it is no problem to show others, i.e. grandparents, daycare > >providers, babysitters, etc. how to do it. There's no shoving the > >foot in and pulling that strap sooo tight, etc. There's also no big > >issue with clothing because if he dirties a pair of pants w/o snaps it > >is no big deal to take the shoes off to change his clothes. > > those ARE good perks I've got to say. I think everyone is different in > regards to putting them on though. My mom who has only applied them > perhaps 3 times total does it right every time. DH could do it too and I > think he has... but he doesn't change a lot of diapers either so bedtime > with the Darbs is by default my territory... I can get him to put > the boys to bed for me though so it's not that big a deal that I always > put them on. It's easier a lot of the time to get Darbi down than these > two boys who talk and bounce around and want me to lie with them, etc... I > think, at the older ages that it's easier than the young babies. I > remember sometimes it seemed like it took 5min or more to get the shoes > on. Now it's not nearly that long and does go pretty darn quick. > > I'm curious about how tight the fit is on those. Is it 100% snug or does > the foot move around and the heel lift up a little in these? > > > >Good news! Dr. Dobbs did tell me that Dr. Ponseti is working with > > on possibly doing this type of brace with the sandals, won't > >that be great! > > Wow, I can't wait. I really would like to try the moveable bar. Now I > want the sandals and the Dobbs bar lol. Give me EVERYTHING! > > > >Is it her big toe or pinkie toe that is curving in? > > It's her second toe, the one next to the big toe. It curves to the outside > of her foot actually. Like a *C* but not so rounded. It's in the bone, I > can feel it curve. I will take a pic and send to the pics list. It seems > to be getting worse. > > > If it is from the > >shoes I bet it will go away once she gets out of them due to her feet > >continuing to grow for years after she's done with DBB wear. > > I'm hoping, but the way the bone feels it seems like it could be a > permanent thing. I know it's minor as compared to other things but I think > she'll want straight toes as well as straight feet when she's a teenager :~} > > Kori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Hi, My son is a patient of Dr. Dobbs and uses the new brace w/AFO. My son started to see Dr. Dobbs when he was 15 months old. Prior to this he had an Orthopedist who used the old method to treat clubfeet. We have used just about everything...AFOs, DAFOs, clam shells, Markells and Dr. Dobbs brace. I have to say that Dr. Dobb's brace is by far the best. It's easy to put on compared to the AFOs and Markells. It does not slip (as did all the AFOs and Markells). There was absolutely no transition from the casts to Dobb's brace since my DS could move his legs independently. I thought for sure that there would be a transition period and would hate the brace. From the moment the brace was put on, acted like they had always been part of him. Yes, 's feet do sweat. However, he has never had any blisters. I would definitely recommend Dobb's brace. As for improvement? Maybe a few holes on the AFO to help circulate the air. I'm am so pleased with Dr. Dobb's brace and we are so blessed to have found him. Thank you, Proud Mom to DBB 23/7-1 month down, 2 to go > > Afo's have their place in the orthotic world, but they have no place > in the treatment of club feet. The DBB is a pair of opened ended > shoes on a bar. The bar is a certain length, the shoes are set at a > certain angle - all this depending on the particular child wearing > them but roughly the bar is shoulder length and the feet are set about > 70 degrees with the toes pointing outwards. > > > > The AFO is a pair of plastic boots. Very, very expensive plastic boots. > > > > The treatment of club foot (non surgicaly) requires the use of the > DBB, and requires the DBB be used religiously by the parents. It is > the bar and the angel of the toes that is maintaining the cf > correction that was achieved through prior casting. An AFO cannot > hold this angle, they are little more than high top boots, thus a cf > child in AFO's is going to relapse and end up with complications. > > > > My son wore AFO's for 18 months and ended up having surgery. They > didn't help his cf at all. The DBB on the other hand - my other son > wears those (both bilateral club foot boys) and his feet are > beautifully corrected and pain free. > > > > > > If you dr. is advising an AFO, run. > > s. > > > > afo question > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I just read a story about a child growing up with a clubfoot and > > I was wondering the difference between the AFO and the DBB? What > > determines the use of either DBB or AFO? Is one better than the other? > > Thank you for all your help > > Corrina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 I too struggle with the idea that I caused Darbi's sore myself not getting them on right. But she only had sores on one foot, her CF. I'm sorry to report that she still has a scar, a rather large one that I'm sure is multiple times larger than any tenotomy scar would ever be and I doubt it'll ever go away. She never even had a tenotomy :~{ I'm actually not biased against the shoes myself. Because they were and still are the only option for us I had to figure out a way to make them work and that's where the holes in the back came in along with some sort of sensible way to put her in them without causing the problem again. I think I'm a little more biased against the plastizode inserts because they were in her first set of shoes and absolutely contributed to her sores. But the Markell's are good shoes and have worked perfectly fine for us ever since we switched to the new style with the padding (I managed to get the last set of prototypes Markell had at the time, 5mo's prior to their public release) and I'm more than happy with them. I sent pics of Darb's feet and curvy toes to the CFPics list for input from others. I'm curious to hear if anyone else has seen this happen. I haven't talked to her Ped about it, he wouldn't really know what to do about it in the first place I'm sure. He's a fantastic doc, but knows little about the treatment and only sees her with fixed feet, we're seen at Shriners for the CF so we don't even go to the same clinic he works in anymore for her treatment. LOL, don't get me wrong... there are plenty of nights where I'm all alone getting 3 children to bed. Like last night... dh didn't even get home till after midnight. It is SOOOOO easy for men to just go *do something* or *see a friend* or whatever after work... whereas I haven't stopped by a friend's house or stopped for a beer just whenever I felt like it (ok, EVER) in over 7 YEARS!!! I'm on my own tonight too. But when dh is gone overnight I let them sleep in my bed and that's about all I need to get them in bed... they think that's pretty cool. I had them in bed and lights out by 7:45 tonight with that trick! Didn't hurt that our truck was due to arrive on a tow truck because the bypass hose blew today on the way to get my 6 year old from school (I didn't make it, SPEWING coolant - like major big leak) and I told them they needed to go to sleep because the tow truck was outside. It WAS! lol only took them 4.5 hours to get it to me. I am very glad I have tow insurance. HAD to happen on the day dh is out of town LOL! Kori At 02:21 PM 1/27/2005, you wrote: >I think I am probably just biased against the Markell's because they >did such a number on Sammy's heels. I just feel terrible about the >sores he got, even on his " good " foot and that it's probably all my >fault because I wasn't getting the heels down all the way makes me >feel even worse. Just makes me mad when I see that big scar on his >heel after a month has gone by, it looks like it could end up being a >permanent scar His pediatrician said the other day, " and this is >where they did the heel cord release " , forgetting that that wasn't >even his clubfoot. >You are lucky, bedtime for both Jenna and Sammy is my job at our >house. Hubby goes to bed early because he gets up so early in the >a.m. Sometimes Jenna just falls asleep curled up on the couch next to >us by default if I'm still nursing Sammy when it is her bedtime -- >it's amazing how fast she just zonks out, she's wide awake one minute >and then I look over at her and she is out. >The shoe is really snug, but I can't say it doesn't move around at >all. Every once in a while he is still able to slide back a little >where you can tell his heel is lifting up -- then we just unstrap the >velcro and slide the foot back into proper position and re-strap it. >I think it has to do with the heel not being fully formed because he >never slips on his non-cf side. Just like with the Markells you can't >tell, other than from the position of the toes, if the heel is down. >I'm thinking about suggesting that they try cutting out the heel so >you can see that part. >On Darbi's toe, have you asked her Pediatrician yet? I wonder if it >is similar to hammertoes which are correctable? >Well, I better get going. > >Thanks again for the feedback! > > > > > > Ahhh... you're too kind! I just spend too much time online! > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks for the input Kori. I've also been curious and I would like to > > >ask Dr. Dobbs about the ankle bending part. The sweating thing is no > > >big deal to me, I guess baby feet are just too cute to stink that > > >much, lol! I've been wondering if they put air holes in the plastic > > >if that would help with the sweating. > > > > I've heard people say they do that and it doesn't help so much. >Powder in > > the AFO is helpful I've heard. I don't know about your baby's feet but > > Darbi sure had stinky feet when she did 23/7, I didn't think it was > > possible but they did not smell good! LOL > > > > >The one advantage I see from what I've read in other posts seems to be > > >the ease of putting them on. I seem to hear a lot of people saying > > >that they can't put the Markell's on by themselves or only Mom does it > > >because no one else can do it right. We find these so easy to take on > > >and off it is no problem to show others, i.e. grandparents, daycare > > >providers, babysitters, etc. how to do it. There's no shoving the > > >foot in and pulling that strap sooo tight, etc. There's also no big > > >issue with clothing because if he dirties a pair of pants w/o snaps it > > >is no big deal to take the shoes off to change his clothes. > > > > those ARE good perks I've got to say. I think everyone is different in > > regards to putting them on though. My mom who has only applied them > > perhaps 3 times total does it right every time. DH could do it too >and I > > think he has... but he doesn't change a lot of diapers either so >bedtime > > with the Darbs is by default my territory... I can get him to put > > the boys to bed for me though so it's not that big a deal that I >always > > put them on. It's easier a lot of the time to get Darbi down than >these > > two boys who talk and bounce around and want me to lie with them, >etc... I > > think, at the older ages that it's easier than the young babies. I > > remember sometimes it seemed like it took 5min or more to get the shoes > > on. Now it's not nearly that long and does go pretty darn quick. > > > > I'm curious about how tight the fit is on those. Is it 100% snug or >does > > the foot move around and the heel lift up a little in these? > > > > > > >Good news! Dr. Dobbs did tell me that Dr. Ponseti is working with > > > on possibly doing this type of brace with the sandals, won't > > >that be great! > > > > Wow, I can't wait. I really would like to try the moveable bar. Now I > > want the sandals and the Dobbs bar lol. Give me EVERYTHING! > > > > > > >Is it her big toe or pinkie toe that is curving in? > > > > It's her second toe, the one next to the big toe. It curves to the >outside > > of her foot actually. Like a *C* but not so rounded. It's in the >bone, I > > can feel it curve. I will take a pic and send to the pics list. It >seems > > to be getting worse. > > > > > If it is from the > > >shoes I bet it will go away once she gets out of them due to her feet > > >continuing to grow for years after she's done with DBB wear. > > > > I'm hoping, but the way the bone feels it seems like it could be a > > permanent thing. I know it's minor as compared to other things but >I think > > she'll want straight toes as well as straight feet when she's a >teenager :~} > > > > Kori > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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