Re: MSM and molybdenum

[Guest guest]

Just going from the Source Naturals label, each tablet has 750 mg of

MSM, 125 mg of Vitamin C, and 60 mcg of molybdenum. So it sounds

like you should be fine in terms of molybdenum supplementation.

I've been on prescription prenatal vitamins for a long time, and they

have very few ingredients, so they don't have molybdenum.

I responded quickly (within a day or two) to the MSM (and noticed

increased pain and stiffness within a day or two of changing to a no

molybdenum brand), but I have relatives who used it for a week or two

before they saw a response. My 80-year-old godmother started using

it - she had been VERY lucky to fall down a full flight of stairs,

and only hurt her back and hip (no fractures), so she was taking one

or more Advil each day. Now she takes only one or two per month,

when she knows she'll be especially active. She's taking two of the

750 mg MSM from Source Naturals each day. My 79-year-old aunt also

takes it, and she has severe osteoarthritis all over, especially in

her knees, but is still able to walk up the stairs no problem.

I'm not a medical doctor, but I have a lot of older relatives who

have been helped by it, in addition to myself. You can imagine that

it's nice to be pain-free at 80, but I am in my 30's with three kids,

so having my arthritis pain under control is the difference between

complete disability and mobility for me when it's an absolute

requirement. My mito is greatly served by very aerobic exercise,

osteoarthritis is helped by exercise as well, but I need to overcome

both arthritis pain and any non-strenuous exercise to be able to get

an improvement.

Take care,

RH

> RH

>

> Any idea roughly how much molybdenum should be added, say per 1g

MSM? I

> already take a high-test multivitamin that has 208 mcg. moly, i.e.

277% DV,

> and I'm thinking that might be sufficient to offset the depletion

effect you

> mention.

>

> To answer another question (was it Dolores?) I have a big bottle of

1g. MSM

> (no moly) caps from Spring Valley (the Walmart store brand I

think). I don't

> recall exactly but I'm sure it was real cheap, like maybe $3-4 for

90 caps.

>

> That's wierd, that just one brand of MSM would work for you. I've

> experimented with supplements, but each experiment needs a fairly

long

> stretch (weeks?) with as little OTHER variants as possible (like,

ESPECIALLY

> no other supplement change). I find there's so much " noise " in the

> experiment, e.g. what and when I eat, when and how much I sleep,

what kind

> and duration of exercise, even the weather, ETC. that I wonder

about my

> " results " . Not sure I'd have the patience to try multiple brands of

> something. When I get desperate (re some symptom) I'll try several

> supplements at once, and if I think I'm getting some relief I'm

very loathe

> to remove one of them at a time, to learn more. For example, CoQ10

AND

> acetyl-carnitine seem to be helping me a lot with a certain light-

headedness

> after only mild exercise, so I'm sticking with it. The only variant

of this

> I've tried is substituting plain carnitine, which only brought back

the

> symptom.

>

> Anyway, my latest headache problems seem more like a spinal problem,

> whiplash style including sitfness and pain from certain neck

movements. So

> I'm going to re-try MSM to see if it helps (a la joints). If my

doc's office

> would either closely look at or send to me the radiology report of a

> cervical MRI I had five weeks ago, I wouldn't be wondering and

experimenting

> so much (PERHAPS), but that's another story.

>

> Steve D.

>

> > Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:37:56 -0000

> > From: " ohgminion "

> > Subject: Re: h pylori

> >

> > To repeat my MSM story in short, I went to the ER with severe pain

> > from lordosis and spinal osteoarthritis (due to previous back

> > surgery). Shots of narcotic drugs didn't help the pain at all

(maybe

> > mito affects that), and they sent me home in severe pain. I

decided

> > to try 750 mg of MSM, randomly I picked the Source Naturals brand

(I

> > found out later that other brands don't work for me), and found

> > relief within a few days.

> >

> > Now when I have an episode, I take 1500 mg for a few days and

> > everything gets back in order. I play hockey at least once a

week,

> > with no pain, so I think it's doing a good job!

> >

> > Try to find a methyl sulfonyl methane supplement that has

molybdenum

> > in it as well, as sulfur supplementation can affect molybdenum

stores.

> >

> > http://store.sourcenaturalscatalog.com/sn1079.html

> >

> > Take care,

> > RH