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> >We saw his quack of a fellow, Parikh. He was

> >awful and said he did examination he didn't.

> ***** You are not the only one who doesn't care for Dr. Cohen's

> fellow. I am sorry that Dr. Parikh isn't as good as Dr. Cohen.

Oh my gosh, this is who they said I would see if I went to Cleveland.

They said that Dr Cohen had hand picked him, and that he's good. I'm

sure glad I read this. Atlanta is much farther, but if I'm going out

of state, I want the trip to accomplish something.

Kim

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--- klaga5 klaga5@...> wrote:

> Oh my gosh, this is who they said I would see if I

> went to Cleveland.

> They said that Dr Cohen had hand picked him, and

> that he's good.

This is the party line. But, I would not see him. I'm

a nurse so I do recognize a good exam when I see one.

He didn't do one. Took 45 minutes to get history and

exam of two children. Said he did things he didn't do.

Lots of inaccuracies t hat are important. For example,

he said he tested cranial nerves and he didn't (but I

marveled that the neuro opthomologist did), he said

there was no history of problems with anesthesia and

both children have had apnea, said that there is no

history of bleeding problems ( has low von

Willebrand factor and has GI bleeds and a dx of von

Willebrand and has low normal von Willebrand

factor and always looks beaten), etc.

Most importantly, he said that my kids couldn't have

mito because they are not MR or DD and then diagnosed

my son as DD. He promised to do a fresh muscle biopsy

and then refused.

The problem is that unless you have a recognized

genetic defect or have some really obvious mito

disorder, you're unlikely to be helped by Parikh. I'd

be surprised if you aren't hurt by him. There isn't

follow up with either Cohen or Shoffner. That's why we

chose Whiteman and now..........

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Ann-Marie and Kim

Dr. Shoffner is following patients, although I don't know how many he

sees and how many new ones he adds to his load. I know he didn't

follow patients when I saw him, but is suppose to be seeing them now.

laurie

>

>

> Hi Kim,

>

> What part in your health care will Dr. Parikh be taking care of? Is

> he going to be in charge of your muscle biopsy? Or will he be

> following you and your disease?

>

> Even if you go to Dr. Shoffner for the muscle biopsy, he doesn't

> follow you. You would have to find another doctor to follow you and

> have a treatment plan for you. The last time i heard was that Dr. S

> is not following patients like the other Mito docs. Although I could

> be wrong, and I am sure that if I am someone on the list will let me

> know and correct me.

>

> And let me just say that just because a few people didn't care for

> Dr.P that doesn't mean he isn't a good Mito Doc. Not everyone agrees

> on doctors. You may very well like Dr. Parikh very much. Each of us

> is different and we look for different things when we go to doctors.

> So before you get all upset and change your plans around you might

> want to talk to some more people who have either seen him, or use him

> as their Mito doctor. I personally can't say anything about the man

> since I have never had an appointment with him or even met him. I

> only said that I heard of others who did not care for him. I am sorry

> if I got you all upset.

>

> Hugs,

> Ann-Marie

>

>

>

>

>

> At 10:46 PM 9/8/2005, you wrote:

>

> > > >We saw his quack of a fellow, Parikh. He was

> > > >awful and said he did examination he didn't.

> >

> > > ***** You are not the only one who doesn't care for Dr. Cohen's

> > > fellow. I am sorry that Dr. Parikh isn't as good as Dr. Cohen.

> >

> >Oh my gosh, this is who they said I would see if I went to Cleveland.

> >They said that Dr Cohen had hand picked him, and that he's good. I'm

> >sure glad I read this. Atlanta is much farther, but if I'm going out

> >of state, I want the trip to accomplish something.

> >Kim

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Laurie,

I thought I heard that he was only following a limited number of

patients, and a person I was speaking to not long ago had a muscle

biopsy done by him (positive results) but he told her he wasn't

following any more patients.

I guess it would depend on his work load and maybe he follows the

more interesting Mito patients. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

So maybe Kim will be able to have Dr. S follow her.

Hugs,

Ann-Marie

At 11:18 PM 9/8/2005, you wrote:

>Ann-Marie and Kim

>

>Dr. Shoffner is following patients, although I don't know how many he

>sees and how many new ones he adds to his load. I know he didn't

>follow patients when I saw him, but is suppose to be seeing them now.

>

>laurie

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I'm not upset.

>

> > > >We saw his quack of a fellow, Parikh. He was

> > > >awful and said he did examination he didn't.

> >

> > > ***** You are not the only one who doesn't care for Dr. Cohen's

> > > fellow. I am sorry that Dr. Parikh isn't as good as Dr. Cohen.

> >

> >Oh my gosh, this is who they said I would see if I went to

Cleveland.

> >They said that Dr Cohen had hand picked him, and that he's good.

I'm

> >sure glad I read this. Atlanta is much farther, but if I'm going

out

> >of state, I want the trip to accomplish something.

> >Kim

> >

> >

> >

> >

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contained

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author

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sends

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severity

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oh good!!!

At 11:35 PM 9/8/2005, you wrote:

>I'm not upset.

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There was a note on my (negative) genetic testing results from Dr.

Shoffner that said he would be happy to see me as a follow-up,

granted that isn't the same as regular care.

Dr. Shoffner doesn't " do " the muscle biopsy, mine was done by a

pediatric neurosurgeon he suggested.

If I was local to Atlanta, I would keep him as my main doctor if at

all possible. I understand he definitely follows up children, but

much fewer adults.

Take care,

RH

>

> > > >We saw his quack of a fellow, Parikh. He was

> > > >awful and said he did examination he didn't.

> >

> > > ***** You are not the only one who doesn't care for Dr. Cohen's

> > > fellow. I am sorry that Dr. Parikh isn't as good as Dr. Cohen.

> >

> >Oh my gosh, this is who they said I would see if I went to

Cleveland.

> >They said that Dr Cohen had hand picked him, and that he's good.

I'm

> >sure glad I read this. Atlanta is much farther, but if I'm going

out

> >of state, I want the trip to accomplish something.

> >Kim

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

contained

> >herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The

author

> >of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List

members

> >are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of

the

> >postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in

> >their own treatment.

> >

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As I just posted, Dr. S at least offered to see me for a follow-up, I

don't know where it would go from there (I just got my results in

July).

I am going to NEMC in Boston, to Dr. Korson's colleague Dr. Garganta,

and I expect to see them once or twice per year. I see my MDA mito

doc about three times per year now.

Take care,

RH

> >Ann-Marie and Kim

> >

> >Dr. Shoffner is following patients, although I don't know how many

he

> >sees and how many new ones he adds to his load. I know he didn't

> >follow patients when I saw him, but is suppose to be seeing them

now.

> >

> >laurie

>

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RH

When I had my biopsy, before yours, he did it himself. I know that is

not the case now, but was.

laurie

> As I just posted, Dr. S at least offered to see me for a follow-up, I

> don't know where it would go from there (I just got my results in

> July).

>

> I am going to NEMC in Boston, to Dr. Korson's colleague Dr. Garganta,

> and I expect to see them once or twice per year. I see my MDA mito

> doc about three times per year now.

>

> Take care,

> RH

>

>

>

> > >Ann-Marie and Kim

> > >

> > >Dr. Shoffner is following patients, although I don't know how many

> he

> > >sees and how many new ones he adds to his load. I know he didn't

> > >follow patients when I saw him, but is suppose to be seeing them

> now.

> > >

> > >laurie

> >

> >

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Oh, okay, I think you mentioned your muscle biopsy with him was in

the 90's? BTW, how old do you think he is/was?

Take care,

RH

> > > >Ann-Marie and Kim

> > > >

> > > >Dr. Shoffner is following patients, although I don't know how

many

> > he

> > > >sees and how many new ones he adds to his load. I know he

didn't

> > > >follow patients when I saw him, but is suppose to be seeing

them

> > now.

> > > >

> > > >laurie

> > >

> > >

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RH

I know that he is older than he looks. I think he might be getting close to 50.

laurie

> Oh, okay, I think you mentioned your muscle biopsy with him was in

> the 90's? BTW, how old do you think he is/was?

>

> Take care,

> RH

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Yeah, I think so. 'Course the leather jacket makes him look

younger. My dad is almost 80, and most people mistake him for 60 or

less. I'm weird, some people think I'm early 20's, others think I'm

on the high side of 40 LOL - maybe it is the mito affecting me

differently day to day.

Take care,

RH

> > Oh, okay, I think you mentioned your muscle biopsy with him was in

> > the 90's? BTW, how old do you think he is/was?

> >

> > Take care,

> > RH

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I'd call Shoffner's office myself if I were you, it wouldn't hurt.

Can you believe he actually called me back *himself* to apologize for

my genetic results being late? I felt I was so running out of time

that I had my fresh muscle biopsy while I was pregnant...

Eventually my muscle biopsy results led me to trying NADH, which is

further down the mito cocktail list, and it works well for me, tg.

BTW, what are MR and DD, sorry if that should be obvious...

Take care,

RH

>

> > Oh my gosh, this is who they said I would see if I

> > went to Cleveland.

> > They said that Dr Cohen had hand picked him, and

> > that he's good.

>

> This is the party line. But, I would not see him. I'm

> a nurse so I do recognize a good exam when I see one.

> He didn't do one. Took 45 minutes to get history and

> exam of two children. Said he did things he didn't do.

> Lots of inaccuracies t hat are important. For example,

> he said he tested cranial nerves and he didn't (but I

> marveled that the neuro opthomologist did), he said

> there was no history of problems with anesthesia and

> both children have had apnea, said that there is no

> history of bleeding problems ( has low von

> Willebrand factor and has GI bleeds and a dx of von

> Willebrand and has low normal von Willebrand

> factor and always looks beaten), etc.

>

> Most importantly, he said that my kids couldn't have

> mito because they are not MR or DD and then diagnosed

> my son as DD. He promised to do a fresh muscle biopsy

> and then refused.

>

> The problem is that unless you have a recognized

> genetic defect or have some really obvious mito

> disorder, you're unlikely to be helped by Parikh. I'd

> be surprised if you aren't hurt by him. There isn't

> follow up with either Cohen or Shoffner. That's why we

> chose Whiteman and now..........

>

>

>

> Mom to the two best kids in the world!

> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/thomasandkatie

>

>

>

>

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Is Whiteman the one a mayo? He doesn't do fresh muscle biopsy though,

does he?

Kim

> There isn't

> follow up with either Cohen or Shoffner. That's why we

> chose Whiteman and now..........

>

>

>

> Mom to the two best kids in the world!

> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/thomasandkatie

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kim,

Dr. Whiteman WAS at Mayo. Many of us who were

followed by him are now desperately trying to figure

out what we are going to do. Dr. Whiteman is

currently workign in the Pharma industry on the East

Coast. I was led to believe he would be returning to

clinical practice after he received his medical

license in that State, but from what I've heard

recently, I don't know if that is still true. It is

true that Mayo does NOT do fresh muscle biopsies.

They do, though, do complete RTC evaluation on skin

fibroblasts. If the skin fibroblast study is

postivie, then an individual may not need a muscle

biopsy. A negative skin fibroblast study does NOT

rule mito out, it is just a potential study that is

less invasive. The up side is that a sklin biopsy can

be done across the country and soem of the cells

prepared and shipped to Mayo for analysis. The

patietns doesn't have to travel.

In the interim, many families in the Midwest have no

idea where they are goign to end up going for care

(mine included). My girls are rather complex

medically. For the past three years their care has

been " shared " . Every three months theyr have been

evaluated at either Cleveland Clinic or Mayo. The

schedule at CCF is too busy too accommodate visits

every three months. So far, every option suggested

has not been an option for our family (long story).

We have been done a very familiar, difficult raod in

regards to diagnosis and treatment.

--- klaga5 klaga5@...> wrote:

> Is Whiteman the one a mayo? He doesn't do fresh

> muscle biopsy though,

> does he?

> Kim

>

> > There isn't

> > follow up with either Cohen or Shoffner. That's

> why we

> > chose Whiteman and now..........

> >

> >

> >

> > Mom to the two best kids in the world!

> > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/thomasandkatie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

>

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That sounds tough. I hope you find someone that will really

understand their needs.

Kim

>

> > Is Whiteman the one a mayo? He doesn't do fresh

> > muscle biopsy though,

> > does he?

> > Kim

> >

> > > There isn't

> > > follow up with either Cohen or Shoffner. That's

> > why we

> > > chose Whiteman and now..........

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mom to the two best kids in the world!

> > > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/thomasandkatie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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> >

> >

>

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> visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris

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