Is it me or??

May 10, 2004

Okay.. maybe it's just me... but I thought this was a group for pregnant

women?

This Bob guy.... his posts don't make sense.. one post says they are TTC..

and another one says his wife is preggo.

Sorry ladies.. but getting pg advice from a guy.. well if I wanted that .. I

wouldn't be tuning out my own dh.

I am not very comfy with this whole idea... and I do love this group of

ladies!

- Mommy to:

Noah - 10/14/02 - 31 weeker - 3lbs 11 oz

edd November 18th

http://www.love-my-kids.com

May 10, 2004

Alot of women feel comfortable talking to women about women things like

pregnancy and it is weird having a guy in the mix. I did not read all the posts

but

can see where it would make you feel uncomfortable. Girl Talk is more my

style too, lol....

God Bless,

Robin, NorthEastern, NY

Age- 41

EDD- July 27th, 2004

IT'S A BOY!!!!!!

Mommy to:

&

(twin boys 8 years),

Madison, daughter, 5 years and

Wife to Pup 15 years (October 31, 1988)

Gastric Bypass Surgery-

October 18th 2002

Start-378, current- 246(pregnant)

goal 170 after baby

It's a BOY!!!!!

Emerson Roger

May 10, 2004

In a message dated 5/10/2004 2:53:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

elfanie@... writes:

Being a man doesn't mean you can't know something

about pregnancy.

One can study all the books they want... but a man will NEVER KNOW what it

is like to actually BE pregnant.

- Mommy to:

Noah - 10/14/02 - 31 weeker - 3lbs 11 oz

edd November 18th

http://www.love-my-kids.com

May 10, 2004

In a message dated 5/10/2004 4:54:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

elfanie@... writes:

I'm not saying that talking to other pregnant women is

without value...it can be a great bonding source. I'm

just saying that being male doesn't mean that you no

longer have anything of value to contribute..

-----------------------------

But I thought this was a group for pregnant women?

This BOB guy can't keep his story straight.. and I believe to be a troll.

I don't believe a male can contribute to pregnancy.. other then what he has

read in books.

And we all can read here.

While I do respect the opinions and knowlege of my Peri who happens to be a

male... he is a DR who is dealing the medical aspect of my pregnancy... not the

emotional aspect.

How many women here would hire a male Doula??

I just don't think that a pregnancy support group is a place for a man.

There are groups for expectant Fathers.

- Mommy to:

Noah - 10/14/02 - 31 weeker - 3lbs 11 oz

edd November 18th

http://www.love-my-kids.com

May 10, 2004

In a message dated 5/10/2004 5:17:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

moms4safekids@... writes:

I just don't think that a pregnancy support group is a place for a man.

There are groups for expectant Fathers.

That part, I agree, makes 100% total sense. However, I could really care

less one way or the other whether men join in. I just usually tend to disregard

what they have to say. I don't mean that what they say is not important, but

if they are " relaying " their wife's opinions, that just seems a bit too

dominant for me anyway. If wife can't speak for herself or just doesn't care

to,

what's the point?

I did feel like Bob was spamming with his " check for such and such at this

website " on his first posts, but again....I'm not a moderator and I think that's

pretty much not my call to make.

I much prefer to hear from the woman what she is feeling, experiencing or

going through. On the other hand, I can understand the the " father " may have

questions about her progress, etc., and the way to get them answered is to ask.

That's the only issue I think means that we should not exclude men from

participating in the forums. I do know that there are several support groups

that

allow certain people to " lurk but not post " (for example postop groups, etc.)

and perhaps that's an option for men here if most people are interested in the

woman's perspective on her pregnancy....or perhaps we should just do what I

already do and skip over the messages from men.

May 10, 2004

> Sorry ladies.. but getting pg advice from a guy.. well if

I wanted

> that .. I wouldn't be tuning out my own dh.

>

He very well might be a troll...

but I'm not sure what him being a man has to do with it?

After all, there are MANY male OB's that have quite

busy practices...in fact, I bet if you took a poll, you'd find

out that many women who are on this group use male

care providers throughout their pregnancy.

Being a man doesn't mean you can't know something

about pregnancy.

Soderblom CCCE CD(DONA) CLD

Student Midwife - Mesa, AZ

CAPPA Board of Directors

Doula/CBE/Pregnancy/Birth Photography

Owner: Birth Story Diaries - real births, real photos

http://www.birthdiaries.com

Owner: SouthwestDoulas.com

May 10, 2004

> In a message dated 5/10/2004 2:53:43 PM Eastern

Daylight Time,

> elfanie@... writes:

> Being a man doesn't mean you can't know something

> about pregnancy.

> One can study all the books they want... but a man

will NEVER KNOW

> what it is like to actually BE pregnant.

>

true...

but you can also have 12 kids and not know what

someone else is going through with being pregnant.

Every pregnancy is different...as any mom of 12 can

attest to.

And she was talking about pregnancy advice...which, as

I said, many women accept pregnancy advice from their

male OB's every day without a complaint about their

gender.

I'm not saying that talking to other pregnant women is

without value...it can be a great bonding source. I'm

just saying that being male doesn't mean that you no

longer have anything of value to contribute..

Soderblom CCCE CD(DONA) CLD

Student Midwife - Mesa, AZ

CAPPA Board of Directors

Doula/CBE/Pregnancy/Birth Photography

Owner: Birth Story Diaries - real births, real photos

http://www.birthdiaries.com

Owner: SouthwestDoulas.com

May 10, 2004

> How many women here would hire a male Doula??

>

There is a certified male doula that works out of

colorado springs that is actually very busy....

> I just don't think that a pregnancy support group is a

place for a

> man.

>

> There are groups for expectant Fathers.

>

Like I said...this Bob guy very well might be a troll, and

that I'm not discounting. that's a totally separate

issue...a troll is a troll, regardless of gender.

I just wasn't under the impression that this was a female

pregnancy support group - nor do we just address

emotional issues. I see women come in here all the

time asking about the GTT...asking about nutrition,

weight gain, prenatal tests, etc etc...

However, I also would never expect everyone to be

comfortable with a man being present. Doesn't surprise

me at all if someone is uncomfortable talking with them.

Just doesn't surprise me at all if someone is

comfortable talking about pregnancy with men, too....

Soderblom CCCE CD(DONA) CLD

Student Midwife - Mesa, AZ

CAPPA Board of Directors

Doula/CBE/Pregnancy/Birth Photography

Owner: Birth Story Diaries - real births, real photos

http://www.birthdiaries.com

Owner: SouthwestDoulas.com

May 10, 2004

Adam has been here for many many months and he is a male. He has contributed

a great deal -- both he and his wife have had WLS and she is currently

pregnant. There is nothing that says that this list needs to be restricted

to only women. It is for those who are experiencing pregnancy after WLS,

wanting to experience it or wanting information about it. Men fit into that

description as well as women. If you don't want to take advice from a guy

here then delete them. I am not speaking about Bob as i have only seen one

post of his but I know Adam has had a great deal of good advice to give and

is definitely a productive, caring member of this group. Just because