Re: Re: RECOVER? from Autism/genetics?

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In a message dated 4/12/01 10:14:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Jfill7crux@... writes:

> I do not think that all children with autism have

> the " leaky gut " kind, I think that there are many different things

> that can cause it.

>

This is what is torturing me right now. I have one confirmed ASD child and

another I suspect as Asperger's but not diagnosed. Both have chronic

constipation. One is always pale/frail looking with what appears to be

digestive problems. I have seen him vomit the contents of his breakfast at

6pm at night. He hadn't eaten anything else that day yet when he finally got

sick from the impending stomach virus he threw up breakfast! My other son

doesn't appear to have these problems and is quite hearty. He just presents

with the constipation from the time I took him off the Similac with the

ingred to make stools softer and placed him on reg. milk at 11mos old.

Here is what haunts me...we have a family history of mental illness. My

brother is a paranoid schizophrenic and my brother in law has untreated

paranoia with a break in reality at one point. When I went to the

neurologist I felt marked by the history and he clearly responded to it,that

it was significant in diagnosing my son. The school phychologist argued with

me that since mental illness is a neurological problem thus ASD's which is

also neurological could be related to my family history. My ped. says they

are different things and the history of mental illness in my family is not

significant. My mother says that 80 percent of the country has some form of

mental illness in their family thus to conclude that ASD's and my brother's

condition are related is foolish. Does anyone have any insight on this? I am

so afraid that with my family history my son's ASD is all genetic and the

diet won't help yet both of my sons present with some digestive problems.

Finally, does anyone know the significance of wanting to chew on something?

My son lately has used his blankie or coat to chew on or other items at times.

Thanks

Debbie

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Debbie, my mother's side of the family has bipolar, schizophrenia, ADHD,

alcoholism, drug use. My husband's side has ADHD, possible bipolar, history

of drug use. This is what my daughter inherited. My ex-sil has ADHD/

depression/ suicide on his side of the family.

Do I think genetics plays a part in Evan's autism? Yes! Do I think the

vaccines help? Yes! Do I think the gfcf diet has helped him? Yes! Will he

ever be completely recovered? I pray so but I doubt it. BUT I am going to

keep working on it. Does he show any digestive problems? No, never. Very

healthy child except that he is nonverbal, compulsive, etc.

He does not chew on things but his older ADHD maybe bipolar brother used to.

I have not caught him doing it lately but chewing on his shirt sleeves or

the neck of his shirt was very irritating. Almost as bad as taking the

scissors and cutting his clothing.

Evan has been on the diet since Sept-00. We have had infringements and I am

sure there is more that should be out of his diet. Within two weeks, his

school noticed the difference, soon the church noticed and even our

neighbors have noticed the difference. He still is nonverbal. He still

will make a break for the street at the first opportunity. But he has

improved. And it is the diet.

And since I have just recently found out that my sister inherited the family

gene's for schizophrenia, I have been interested in also finding out that

the gfcf diet has also helped some with that problem. I would love to have

my bipolar daughter on the diet and her other two sons that I am raising but

they are not as cooperative as Evan is. And he is getting old enough that

he is beginning to notice that he does not get what they are getting and yet

they will eat his special food.

Betty from Central California

grandmother and guardian to

, 9 yo, ADHD/depression/asthma, possible RAD or bipolar

Evan, 7 yo, nonverbal autism

, 4 yo, ADHD/OD, possible RAD or bipolar

----- Original Message -----

> Here is what haunts me...we have a family history of mental illness. My

> brother is a paranoid schizophrenic ----------------------

Does anyone have any insight on this? I am

> so afraid that with my family history my son's ASD is all genetic and the

> diet won't help yet both of my sons present with some digestive problems.

> Finally, does anyone know the significance of wanting to chew on

something?

> My son lately has used his blankie or coat to chew on or other items at

times.

> Thanks

> Debbie

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Hi

My family has some mental probs Schizophrenia etc. In fact quite a bit.

Did this account for my sons condition? Who knows . Maybe. The thing is

was it triggered by vaccines or something. Whereby he would not have become

autistic if the trigger was not there? Who knows. I think it might be a

variation where certain genes might be involved with predisposition. I don't

think though that genes make it happen. I think it takes some kind of

external event to get the ball rolling, like a vaccine. Even with certain

genes and make up we can still make up for certain things we might be

lacking. For instance kids with a genetic defect like downs syndrome are

helped tremendously with dietary intervention . So can we save our bodies

if there is a genetic problem? Maybe . If we know are children are

sensitive to whatever.... we can avoid whatever ( like Mercury in Vaccines)

they are sensitive to or make up for whatever is lacking in order for them

to have the good health they need.

I think predispostion mean makes it more likely, but it is not set in

stone.. Autism is too multifactetied. Predisposition does not make it so

..... It makes it probable.

P.S. there is a show on PBS regarding Genes this April 17th, Not sure what

time yet. It is a NOVA show and looks pretty good. All about Genes.