Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several different stores, and haven't had much luck. I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer and don't want to have their socks show. Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the peds. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 . Old Navy, The Childrens Place, Gymboree and The Gap all have socks with the grippers on the bottom. The best for your buck is Old Navy. I think it is 6 pairs for $10.00. If you don't have any of these stores near you, you can purchase them online. Shook Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 Vienna, VA 22182 x374 x374 fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Old Navy and Gap stores have the turn cuff socks with the grippers on the bottom. I prefer Old Navy because they are a little cheaper (8 pairs for $10.00). Mommy to (12-17-98) and Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB (nights only) Socks I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several different stores, and haven't had much luck. I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer and don't want to have their socks show. Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the peds. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Thanks! I love Old Navy! I didn't look for socks there, but will have to. They seem to have the best stuff at the most reasonable prices, and most of their pants have snaps. > Old Navy and Gap stores have the turn cuff socks with the grippers on the > bottom. I prefer Old Navy because they are a little cheaper (8 pairs for > $10.00). > > > Mommy to (12-17-98) and > Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB (nights only) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Some people swear by the gripper socks, I didn't find they made a difference. However, I bought some at Wal-Mart once. s. Socks I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several different stores, and haven't had much luck. I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer and don't want to have their socks show. Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the peds. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Ya, just don't go to Baby Gap! Their socks must be made out of gold. s. Socks > > > >I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can >find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several >different stores, and haven't had much luck. > >I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the >feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. > >Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their >baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are >awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are >essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually >made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the >casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the >casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best >thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer >and don't want to have their socks show. > >Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found >they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the >peds. > >-- > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 lol, 's old Navy charges her $10 for 6 pairs, your old Navy charges you $10 for 8 pairs, and my old Navy charges me $10 for 7 pairs. That's just weird! I'd think there would be some consistency but apparently not. I do like the old navy socks though. Good colors! I have found that Darbi can still wear her 0-6mo socks with the shoes. If she wore them without shoes, they'd slip off because her feet are technically too big for them. But they work great still with the brace. Go figure... Kori At 12:13 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote: >Old Navy and Gap stores have the turn cuff socks with the grippers on the >bottom. I prefer Old Navy because they are a little cheaper (8 pairs for >$10.00). > > >Mommy to (12-17-98) and >Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB (nights only) > > Socks > > > >I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can >find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several >different stores, and haven't had much luck. > >I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the >feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. > >Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their >baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are >awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are >essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually >made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the >casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the >casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best >thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer >and don't want to have their socks show. > >Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found >they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the >peds. > >-- > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 That is pretty weird about Old Navy's pricing. Mommy to (12-17-98) and Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB (nights only) Socks > > > >I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can >find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several >different stores, and haven't had much luck. > >I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the >feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. > >Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their >baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are >awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are >essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually >made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the >casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the >casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best >thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer >and don't want to have their socks show. > >Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found >they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the >peds. > >-- > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Hi , I get socks for my daughter at The Childrens Place (www.childrensplace.com). They have their company name and size on the bottom of the sock which work as grippers. From my experience, the grippers do help the feet stay in place especially when they are at a mobile age - this I only write from experience. I've tried Wal-Mart, Baby Gap, Target - the only success I have found is The Children's Place. As for their clothes - with snaps, not much of a selection. As for covering the casts when my daughter was younger, I used ankle socks that were for an older child. Take care, Jennipher Mommy to Lhea BCF/ shoes 18/7 kannhoudek kannhoudek@...> wrote: I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several different stores, and haven't had much luck. I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer and don't want to have their socks show. Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the peds. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Thanks for mentioning Gymboree. I wasn't aware that they sold socks - let alone I've not been in one yet. I liked the Gap socks, however, Lhea's a chunker, so they were kinda snug on her leg. I have found that The Childrens Place worked the best for the chunkers. susan.shook@... wrote: . Old Navy, The Childrens Place, Gymboree and The Gap all have socks with the grippers on the bottom. The best for your buck is Old Navy. I think it is 6 pairs for $10.00. If you don't have any of these stores near you, you can purchase them online. Shook Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 Vienna, VA 22182 x374 x374 fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 LOL!!! The last time I visited Old Navy here, I couldn't see their socks for those great prices! LOL!!! frogabog frogabog@...> wrote:lol, 's old Navy charges her $10 for 6 pairs, your old Navy charges you $10 for 8 pairs, and my old Navy charges me $10 for 7 pairs. That's just weird! I'd think there would be some consistency but apparently not. I do like the old navy socks though. Good colors! I have found that Darbi can still wear her 0-6mo socks with the shoes. If she wore them without shoes, they'd slip off because her feet are technically too big for them. But they work great still with the brace. Go figure... Kori At 12:13 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote: >Old Navy and Gap stores have the turn cuff socks with the grippers on the >bottom. I prefer Old Navy because they are a little cheaper (8 pairs for >$10.00). > > >Mommy to (12-17-98) and >Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB (nights only) > > Socks > > > >I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can >find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several >different stores, and haven't had much luck. > >I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the >feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. > >Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their >baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are >awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are >essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually >made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the >casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the >casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best >thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer >and don't want to have their socks show. > >Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found >they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the >peds. > >-- > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 I found them on sale for 8 for $10, regularly 8 for $11.50. And they had some that weren't white, which is even better. > > >Old Navy and Gap stores have the turn cuff socks with the grippers on the > >bottom. I prefer Old Navy because they are a little cheaper (8 pairs for > >$10.00). > > > > > >Mommy to (12-17-98) and > >Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB (nights only) > > > > Socks > > > > > > > >I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can > >find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several > >different stores, and haven't had much luck. > > > >I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the > >feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. > > > >Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their > >baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are > >awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are > >essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually > >made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the > >casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the > >casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best > >thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer > >and don't want to have their socks show. > > > >Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found > >they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the > >peds. > > > >-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 I am glad you found them. I actually have to go buy some tomorrow. I wish I knew what happens to these socks! We have gone from 16 pairs to 6!!! LOL Mommy to (12-17-98) and Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB (nights only) Socks > > > > > > > >I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I can > >find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several > >different stores, and haven't had much luck. > > > >I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how the > >feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. > > > >Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their > >baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are > >awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are > >essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually > >made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over the > >casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the > >casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the best > >thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer > >and don't want to have their socks show. > > > >Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we found > >they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the > >peds. > > > >-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 , my husband, finds them in his clothes all the time. Unfortunately, he finds them when they fall off...usually at work. > > > > >Old Navy and Gap stores have the turn cuff socks with the > grippers on the > > >bottom. I prefer Old Navy because they are a little cheaper (8 > pairs for > > >$10.00). > > > > > > > > >Mommy to (12-17-98) and > > >Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB (nights only) > > > > > > Socks > > > > > > > > > > > >I wanted to find out if anyone had any suggestions about where I > can > > >find socks with the grips on the bottom. I've checked several > > >different stores, and haven't had much luck. > > > > > >I also wanted to see if the grips really do have an impact on how > the > > >feet stay in the shoes and if they are really needed. > > > > > >Finally, I'm not sure what other parents have done to cover their > > >baby's toes while in the casts, but I've found that 'peds' are > > >awesome. Just in case you're not familiar with peds, they are > > >essentially socks made to only cover your toes. They are actually > > >made for women, but I have found that they fit really well over > the > > >casts, look as much like 'normal' socks as possible, stay on the > > >casts really well, and keep baby's toes nice and warm. And the > best > > >thing is that moms can wear them if they wear slides in the summer > > >and don't want to have their socks show. > > > > > >Gillette did send us home with some hand knitted covers, but we > found > > >they slipped off very easily, and just didn't match as well as the > > >peds. > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Gymboree socks are also outragious in price, however, they are really good quality and thicker. Shook Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 Vienna, VA 22182 x374 x374 fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Well after two years of this thing I just use what ever fits him well with no toe-seams to ball up and cause discomfort. Beyond that, nothing special. s. Re: socks , We use the Old Navy or Childrens Place socks. Both are similar and similar in price. HTH. mreese1818 wrote: It was recommended by the orthotist to use 100% cotton socks with the brace. I have had difficulty finding these and have been using cotton mixes, but was wondering if anyone has found 100% cotton socks and where. If not using 100% cotton has anyone noticed any problems with this. Thanks for you help. 10/16/02 Kolby 8/15/05, RCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Well after two years of this thing I just use what ever fits him well with no toe-seams to ball up and cause discomfort. Beyond that, nothing special. s. Re: socks , We use the Old Navy or Childrens Place socks. Both are similar and similar in price. HTH. mreese1818 wrote: It was recommended by the orthotist to use 100% cotton socks with the brace. I have had difficulty finding these and have been using cotton mixes, but was wondering if anyone has found 100% cotton socks and where. If not using 100% cotton has anyone noticed any problems with this. Thanks for you help. 10/16/02 Kolby 8/15/05, RCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 100% cotton has no elasticity... I doubt they're even available. Especially for babies. The Old Navy socks with the grippers on the bottom are what we use, we love them. They're 7 for $10 and have lots of colors to choose from. They aren't 100% cotton however, but like I said if they were they wouldn't be of much use anyway. They'd just fall down. You want a sock with a nice tight weave. Loosely woven socks make those sock impressions on the tops of their feet (we've all experienced this with socks I'm sure) and don't feel good at all. Every time I use that kind of sock on Darbi she tells me her feet hurt and when I take them off I can see the impressions. Baby Gap and Gymboree also make nice gripper socks with tight weave. I think however the old navy ones are the cheapest of this variety. I have spent $40 total on socks for Darbi this whole time (she's 2.5yo) and she's actually able to wear her 0-6mo socks still in her shoes (although not with regular shoes, they don't fit well for that - fall down - too small). I don't think one really *needs* 14 pairs of socks at a time but I've found that with baby socks... they get lost in the wash a lot and since she's a girl I wanted lots of colors to choose from. So I spent $20 both times just because I wanted to. Still, in 2.5y... not bad cost wise. HTH Kori At 08:06 AM 10/25/2005, you wrote: > GAbe has had a constant problem with athelete's foot if that's > what you mean... but his feet sweat a lot anyway. I suppose if we > found 100 % cotton socks they might " breathe " better and possibly > minimize this problem...? > >mreese1818 wrote:It was recommended by the >orthotist to use 100% cotton socks with the >brace. I have had difficulty finding these and have been using cotton >mixes, but was wondering if anyone has found 100% cotton socks and >where. If not using 100% cotton has anyone noticed any problems with >this. Thanks for you help. > > > 10/16/02 >Kolby 8/15/05, RCF > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 100% cotton has no elasticity... I doubt they're even available. Especially for babies. The Old Navy socks with the grippers on the bottom are what we use, we love them. They're 7 for $10 and have lots of colors to choose from. They aren't 100% cotton however, but like I said if they were they wouldn't be of much use anyway. They'd just fall down. You want a sock with a nice tight weave. Loosely woven socks make those sock impressions on the tops of their feet (we've all experienced this with socks I'm sure) and don't feel good at all. Every time I use that kind of sock on Darbi she tells me her feet hurt and when I take them off I can see the impressions. Baby Gap and Gymboree also make nice gripper socks with tight weave. I think however the old navy ones are the cheapest of this variety. I have spent $40 total on socks for Darbi this whole time (she's 2.5yo) and she's actually able to wear her 0-6mo socks still in her shoes (although not with regular shoes, they don't fit well for that - fall down - too small). I don't think one really *needs* 14 pairs of socks at a time but I've found that with baby socks... they get lost in the wash a lot and since she's a girl I wanted lots of colors to choose from. So I spent $20 both times just because I wanted to. Still, in 2.5y... not bad cost wise. HTH Kori At 08:06 AM 10/25/2005, you wrote: > GAbe has had a constant problem with athelete's foot if that's > what you mean... but his feet sweat a lot anyway. I suppose if we > found 100 % cotton socks they might " breathe " better and possibly > minimize this problem...? > >mreese1818 wrote:It was recommended by the >orthotist to use 100% cotton socks with the >brace. I have had difficulty finding these and have been using cotton >mixes, but was wondering if anyone has found 100% cotton socks and >where. If not using 100% cotton has anyone noticed any problems with >this. Thanks for you help. > > > 10/16/02 >Kolby 8/15/05, RCF > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I think what he meant by 100% cotton is what I was talking about w/ Naomi - 100% cotton in the fibers that make up the sock, not including the elastic. Naomi, in all her PhD glory ;^), found out that if there are other non-cotton fibers that make up more than 5% then the manufacturer has to list it. I know, way more than anyone really wanted to know. But anyway, I think the main thing is that if your child has stinky feet, choosing socks w/ higher cotton content will help. Other synthetic fibers like acrylic and polyester trap the moisture and keep it next to the skin, making the foot more stinky. Kori's and the other's suggestions about the socks are right on, I think it is more important to get the socks with grippers on the bottom than to worry about the fiber content unless your child has excessively stinky feet. (P.S. Kori and Naomi, I think this is a clear indicator that we should just not put in the tip I had in the Dobbs' brace info about 100% cotton socks - it's just way too involved.) It was recommended by the > >orthotist to use 100% cotton socks with the > >brace. I have had difficulty finding these and have been using cotton > >mixes, but was wondering if anyone has found 100% cotton socks and > >where. If not using 100% cotton has anyone noticed any problems with > >this. Thanks for you help. > > > > > > 10/16/02 > >Kolby 8/15/05, RCF > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I think what he meant by 100% cotton is what I was talking about w/ Naomi - 100% cotton in the fibers that make up the sock, not including the elastic. Naomi, in all her PhD glory ;^), found out that if there are other non-cotton fibers that make up more than 5% then the manufacturer has to list it. I know, way more than anyone really wanted to know. But anyway, I think the main thing is that if your child has stinky feet, choosing socks w/ higher cotton content will help. Other synthetic fibers like acrylic and polyester trap the moisture and keep it next to the skin, making the foot more stinky. Kori's and the other's suggestions about the socks are right on, I think it is more important to get the socks with grippers on the bottom than to worry about the fiber content unless your child has excessively stinky feet. (P.S. Kori and Naomi, I think this is a clear indicator that we should just not put in the tip I had in the Dobbs' brace info about 100% cotton socks - it's just way too involved.) It was recommended by the > >orthotist to use 100% cotton socks with the > >brace. I have had difficulty finding these and have been using cotton > >mixes, but was wondering if anyone has found 100% cotton socks and > >where. If not using 100% cotton has anyone noticed any problems with > >this. Thanks for you help. > > > > > > 10/16/02 > >Kolby 8/15/05, RCF > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 , We use the Old Navy or Childrens Place socks. Both are similar and similar in price. HTH. mreese1818 wrote: It was recommended by the orthotist to use 100% cotton socks with the brace. I have had difficulty finding these and have been using cotton mixes, but was wondering if anyone has found 100% cotton socks and where. If not using 100% cotton has anyone noticed any problems with this. Thanks for you help. 10/16/02 Kolby 8/15/05, RCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 , We use the Old Navy or Childrens Place socks. Both are similar and similar in price. HTH. mreese1818 wrote: It was recommended by the orthotist to use 100% cotton socks with the brace. I have had difficulty finding these and have been using cotton mixes, but was wondering if anyone has found 100% cotton socks and where. If not using 100% cotton has anyone noticed any problems with this. Thanks for you help. 10/16/02 Kolby 8/15/05, RCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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