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FWIW just in case this strikes a familiar note to someone:

I have keratoconus in both eyes. This is a rare (that's my middle name) abnormal

curvature (cone-shape) and thinness of the cornea, that eventually progresses to

scarring, and very poor vision. The curvature plus scars means that any improved

vision only comes from extremely specialized (and EXPENSIVE) gas-permeable (GP)

contact lens (not quite the old hard glass little ones, but a more comfortable

version of same).

It's thought that this condition is hereditary but the jury is out. It's also

thought that it comes from very excessive rubbing of eyes, as a child (but

manifests twenty years later). Which I admit to doing. No one told me not to and

I was quite young. But I do recall it vividly, it makes beautiful curving

checkerboard patterns of flashing colors. In any event, it does correlate with

dry eyes, which I have.

In my case, it got eventually so bad that I had one cornea replaced (with donor

tissue, sewn in). This more or less worked (with additional correction), but I

still need this expensive and (for me) problematic surgery in the other eye. You

generally choose to have the worst eye done, and then wait maybe years to " see "

the result. It's risky, some percentage of people lose all vision in that eye,

one way or another. In my case, there were some complications and hence I'm not

a good candidate for the second eye. That despite the fact that now my best

(only, really) vision is in the operated eye.

So perhaps this correlates with mito, anyone?

Steve D.

Watering eyes

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I¹m very new to this, with a lot of symptoms but no solid diagnosis based on

labs. I have Ophthalmoplegia (droopy lids, and reduced eye muscle

function), and periodically my eyes water like crazy. For me, this is due

to a combination of corneal exposure due to the disease and really bad

allergies: the problem only happens when I¹m in a highly allergic state.

During this time, my ophthalmologist inserts a (temporary) plug in one of

the tear drains in each eye to increase the amount of lubrication and the

over-the-top tearing is completely or nearly stopped.

It seems really counter intuitive- your eyes are watering, and you want them

to drain more, right? But, if you have ophthalmoplegia, and your lids don¹t

function well, your eyes probably have more exposure than normal and can

become very dry, especially if they are irritated by allergens. Plugging

one of the drains allows tears to stay on the eye longer, and the dryness is

relieved. If my eyes still tear after the plugs are in, I use frequent

doses of synthetic tears to lubricate my eyes as much as possible. The more

lubricated my eyes are, the less they tear.

At the end of allergy season (mid-October in No. Cal, for me) the plugs are

removed and my eyes are fine, until the whole cycle starts again. I¹m

working with an allergist, and I¹m hoping that the immunotherapy I¹m doing

will lessen the allergic response eventually.

I¹d see your ophthalmologist first so s/he can determine if your eyes are

tearing in response to allergens or corneal dryness or some other reason

readily apparent. Dry eyes and excessive tearing are commonplace eye

complaints, and happen to people without mito, too.

Good luck!

Kathleen

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>> > but I don't know much about this disease. And since I have been

>> > reading and checking in on the sites everyday, I have discovered so

>> > much and found that the things I am going through, other ones are

>> > going through it too. I am not imagining it or becoming a

>> > hypochondriac. What a relief. But I don't want to be a bother either,

>> > there are probably more important e mails for needing a response. So

>> > when any one can, I am experiencing at times, that all of a sudden my

>> > eyes will start to water and it feels like they overflow and looks

>> > like I am crying. Is this possibley related to mito? So I know what

>> > and whom to go see about this. It has become bothersome. Thank you

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Steve, I was told 20-some years ago that I had keratoconus, as well as other

scarring and abnormalities, most likely due to wearing the old hard contact

lenses for many years. The doc said my corneas were " a mess. " I switched to

the gas-permeable and within 6 months there were some signs of healing,

which continued very slowly. Now I have no keratoconus, though I do have

extreme astigmatism. I have never connected these problems with the mito

diagnosis.

Barbara

> FWIW just in case this strikes a familiar note to someone:

>

> I have keratoconus in both eyes. This is a rare (that's my middle name)

abnormal

> curvature (cone-shape) and thinness of the cornea, that eventually

progresses to

> scarring, and very poor vision. The curvature plus scars means that any

improved

> vision only comes from extremely specialized (and EXPENSIVE) gas-permeable

> (GP) contact lens (not quite the old hard glass little ones, but a more

comfortable

> version of same).

>

> It's thought that this condition is hereditary but the jury is out. It's

also thought that it

> comes from very excessive rubbing of eyes, as a child (but manifests

twenty years

> later). Which I admit to doing. No one told me not to and I was quite

young. But I do

> recall it vividly, it makes beautiful curving checkerboard patterns of

flashing colors.

> In any event, it does correlate with dry eyes, which I have.

>

> In my case, it got eventually so bad that I had one cornea replaced (with

donor

> tissue, sewn in). This more or less worked (with additional correction),

but I still

> need this expensive and (for me) problematic surgery in the other eye. You

> generally choose to have the worst eye done, and then wait maybe years to

" see "

> the result. It's risky, some percentage of people lose all vision in that

eye, one way

> or another. In my case, there were some complications and hence I'm not a

good

> candidate for the second eye. That despite the fact that now my best

(only, really)

> vision is in the operated eye.

>

> So perhaps this correlates with mito, anyone?

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