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Okay, here's my question of the day. I'm sure it's been answered before a

million times, so I'm sorry for being repeptitive. How is my 4.5 month old

slipping his clubfoot out of his shoe??? His good foot has not slipped out

once. Today is the 2nd time in a week and a half that he managed to get his cf

foot out. Why? Why? I'm putting them on tight. Should I go even tighter?

I've noticed that he is haveing much better dorsiflexion these days. It doesn't

hurt him or stiffen up when I stretch his foot and place it flat and stretch his

achilles tendon. I don't know what to do... Should I move the tongue higher up

on the foot or keep it lower like the tips suggested? I can't believe he has

managed to do this! I know even more amazing feats with the FAB are to come,

but we're still newbies...

Thanks in advance for your help!

rt cf 12/15/04 FAB 23/7

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I think it is supposed to be harder for them to get their foot out if

you have the tongue lower because you can snug up the laces around

their ankle more. I would say that if the strap can be tighter, make

it so. As long as that foot is seated properly in the shoe with the

heel down and back I don't think there is such a thing as too tight.

HTH.

Jenna (4/7/01) & Sammy (9/25/04, RCF, Dobbs Brace 16-18/7)

> Okay, here's my question of the day. I'm sure it's been answered

before a million times, so I'm sorry for being repeptitive. How is my

4.5 month old slipping his clubfoot out of his shoe??? His good foot

has not slipped out once. Today is the 2nd time in a week and a half

that he managed to get his cf foot out. Why? Why? I'm putting them

on tight. Should I go even tighter? I've noticed that he is haveing

much better dorsiflexion these days. It doesn't hurt him or stiffen

up when I stretch his foot and place it flat and stretch his achilles

tendon. I don't know what to do... Should I move the tongue higher

up on the foot or keep it lower like the tips suggested? I can't

believe he has managed to do this! I know even more amazing feats

with the FAB are to come, but we're still newbies...

>

> Thanks in advance for your help!

>

>

> rt cf 12/15/04 FAB 23/7

>

>

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Okay, I put it on the 5th hole of the buckle (it's usually on the 3rd or 4th)

and tied the the laces super-tight. So, we'll see what happens. Is there a

chance that he may have lost correction, and THAT'S why he's slipping out?

While we are good about keeping them on, I'll admit we've gone 2 hours a day

without them pretty often. Once we even went 3 hours. I know, I'm a bad mommy.

K

jagrindon@...> wrote:

,

I think it is supposed to be harder for them to get their foot out if

you have the tongue lower because you can snug up the laces around

their ankle more. I would say that if the strap can be tighter, make

it so. As long as that foot is seated properly in the shoe with the

heel down and back I don't think there is such a thing as too tight.

HTH.

Jenna (4/7/01) & Sammy (9/25/04, RCF, Dobbs Brace 16-18/7)

> Okay, here's my question of the day. I'm sure it's been answered

before a million times, so I'm sorry for being repeptitive. How is my

4.5 month old slipping his clubfoot out of his shoe??? His good foot

has not slipped out once. Today is the 2nd time in a week and a half

that he managed to get his cf foot out. Why? Why? I'm putting them

on tight. Should I go even tighter? I've noticed that he is haveing

much better dorsiflexion these days. It doesn't hurt him or stiffen

up when I stretch his foot and place it flat and stretch his achilles

tendon. I don't know what to do... Should I move the tongue higher

up on the foot or keep it lower like the tips suggested? I can't

believe he has managed to do this! I know even more amazing feats

with the FAB are to come, but we're still newbies...

>

> Thanks in advance for your help!

>

>

> rt cf 12/15/04 FAB 23/7

>

>

>

>

>

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could be bar length too. Make sure to check that as it'll help pull the

heel out if it's too short or too long.

Kori

At 02:09 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote:

>,

>I think it is supposed to be harder for them to get their foot out if

>you have the tongue lower because you can snug up the laces around

>their ankle more. I would say that if the strap can be tighter, make

>it so. As long as that foot is seated properly in the shoe with the

>heel down and back I don't think there is such a thing as too tight.

>HTH.

>

>

>Jenna (4/7/01) & Sammy (9/25/04, RCF, Dobbs Brace 16-18/7)

>

>

>

>

> > Okay, here's my question of the day. I'm sure it's been answered

>before a million times, so I'm sorry for being repeptitive. How is my

>4.5 month old slipping his clubfoot out of his shoe??? His good foot

>has not slipped out once. Today is the 2nd time in a week and a half

>that he managed to get his cf foot out. Why? Why? I'm putting them

>on tight. Should I go even tighter? I've noticed that he is haveing

>much better dorsiflexion these days. It doesn't hurt him or stiffen

>up when I stretch his foot and place it flat and stretch his achilles

>tendon. I don't know what to do... Should I move the tongue higher

>up on the foot or keep it lower like the tips suggested? I can't

>believe he has managed to do this! I know even more amazing feats

>with the FAB are to come, but we're still newbies...

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!

> >

> >

> > rt cf 12/15/04 FAB 23/7

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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Our daughter was also slipping out, and we took the shoes in and they added a

pad of rubber inside the shoe at the back. it seemed to help

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could be bar length too. Make sure to check that as it'll help pull the

heel out if it's too short or too long.

Kori

At 02:09 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote:

>,

>I think it is supposed to be harder for them to get their foot out if

>you have the tongue lower because you can snug up the laces around

>their ankle more. I would say that if the strap can be tighter, make

>it so. As long as that foot is seated properly in the shoe with the

>heel down and back I don't think there is such a thing as too tight.

>HTH.

>

>

>Jenna (4/7/01) & Sammy (9/25/04, RCF, Dobbs Brace 16-18/7)

>

>

>

>

> > Okay, here's my question of the day. I'm sure it's been answered

>before a million times, so I'm sorry for being repeptitive. How is my

>4.5 month old slipping his clubfoot out of his shoe??? His good foot

>has not slipped out once. Today is the 2nd time in a week and a half

>that he managed to get his cf foot out. Why? Why? I'm putting them

>on tight. Should I go even tighter? I've noticed that he is haveing

>much better dorsiflexion these days. It doesn't hurt him or stiffen

>up when I stretch his foot and place it flat and stretch his achilles

>tendon. I don't know what to do... Should I move the tongue higher

>up on the foot or keep it lower like the tips suggested? I can't

>believe he has managed to do this! I know even more amazing feats

>with the FAB are to come, but we're still newbies...

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!

> >

> >

> > rt cf 12/15/04 FAB 23/7

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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Are you all talking about the shoes or the Markell shoes? We have the

shoes and if they are not tight enough, Abbi has figured out how to

wiggle out of her shoes....I once talked to a mom who had Markell shoes,though,

and her way of keeping the shoes on was to lace the shoe backwards--meaning you

tie the shoes at the toes, making it easier to tighten them without having the

kids slide out of the shoes. This mom also uses Baby Gap socks--ones that have

traction on the bottoms, making it easier to keep the heel and bottoms of the

feet down flat on the shoe. I hope this helps...

Becky --mom if Abbi--bilateral atypical- complex clubfeet

frogabog frogabog@...> wrote:

could be bar length too. Make sure to check that as it'll help pull the

heel out if it's too short or too long.

Kori

At 02:09 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote:

>,

>I think it is supposed to be harder for them to get their foot out if

>you have the tongue lower because you can snug up the laces around

>their ankle more. I would say that if the strap can be tighter, make

>it so. As long as that foot is seated properly in the shoe with the

>heel down and back I don't think there is such a thing as too tight.

>HTH.

>

>

>Jenna (4/7/01) & Sammy (9/25/04, RCF, Dobbs Brace 16-18/7)

>

>

>

>

> > Okay, here's my question of the day. I'm sure it's been answered

>before a million times, so I'm sorry for being repeptitive. How is my

>4.5 month old slipping his clubfoot out of his shoe??? His good foot

>has not slipped out once. Today is the 2nd time in a week and a half

>that he managed to get his cf foot out. Why? Why? I'm putting them

>on tight. Should I go even tighter? I've noticed that he is haveing

>much better dorsiflexion these days. It doesn't hurt him or stiffen

>up when I stretch his foot and place it flat and stretch his achilles

>tendon. I don't know what to do... Should I move the tongue higher

>up on the foot or keep it lower like the tips suggested? I can't

>believe he has managed to do this! I know even more amazing feats

>with the FAB are to come, but we're still newbies...

> >

> > Thanks in advance for your help!

> >

> >

> > rt cf 12/15/04 FAB 23/7

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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*can* a baby slip out of the Ponseti/ brace? Anyone ever have this

happen?

Kori

At 07:54 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote:

>Are you all talking about the shoes or the Markell shoes? We have

>the shoes and if they are not tight enough, Abbi has figured out

>how to wiggle out of her shoes....I once talked to a mom who had Markell

>shoes,though, and her way of keeping the shoes on was to lace the shoe

>backwards--meaning you tie the shoes at the toes, making it easier to

>tighten them without having the kids slide out of the shoes. This mom also

>uses Baby Gap socks--ones that have traction on the bottoms, making it

>easier to keep the heel and bottoms of the feet down flat on the shoe. I

>hope this helps...

>Becky --mom if Abbi--bilateral atypical- complex clubfeet

>

>frogabog frogabog@...> wrote:

>could be bar length too. Make sure to check that as it'll help pull the

>heel out if it's too short or too long.

>

>Kori

>

>

>At 02:09 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote:

> >,

> >I think it is supposed to be harder for them to get their foot out if

> >you have the tongue lower because you can snug up the laces around

> >their ankle more. I would say that if the strap can be tighter, make

> >it so. As long as that foot is seated properly in the shoe with the

> >heel down and back I don't think there is such a thing as too tight.

> >HTH.

> >

> >

> >Jenna (4/7/01) & Sammy (9/25/04, RCF, Dobbs Brace 16-18/7)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Okay, here's my question of the day. I'm sure it's been answered

> >before a million times, so I'm sorry for being repeptitive. How is my

> >4.5 month old slipping his clubfoot out of his shoe??? His good foot

> >has not slipped out once. Today is the 2nd time in a week and a half

> >that he managed to get his cf foot out. Why? Why? I'm putting them

> >on tight. Should I go even tighter? I've noticed that he is haveing

> >much better dorsiflexion these days. It doesn't hurt him or stiffen

> >up when I stretch his foot and place it flat and stretch his achilles

> >tendon. I don't know what to do... Should I move the tongue higher

> >up on the foot or keep it lower like the tips suggested? I can't

> >believe he has managed to do this! I know even more amazing feats

> >with the FAB are to come, but we're still newbies...

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance for your help!

> > >

> > >

> > > rt cf 12/15/04 FAB 23/7

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

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My son is 2 and he has never pulled his feet out of his shoe until this

last pair of shoes. Every morning he takes them out. Anyway I have decided

the shoes are too big and I have put him back in his smaller ones whilst I

get another pair ordered and I haven't had the problem since.

Rach, Steve & Connor

-- How is he slipping out of his shoe?

Okay, here's my question of the day. I'm sure it's been answered before a

million times, so I'm sorry for being repeptitive. How is my 4.5 month old

slipping his clubfoot out of his shoe??? His good foot has not slipped out

once. Today is the 2nd time in a week and a half that he managed to get his

cf foot out. Why? Why? I'm putting them on tight. Should I go even

tighter? I've noticed that he is haveing much better dorsiflexion these

days. It doesn't hurt him or stiffen up when I stretch his foot and place

it flat and stretch his achilles tendon. I don't know what to do... Should

I move the tongue higher up on the foot or keep it lower like the tips

suggested? I can't believe he has managed to do this! I know even more

amazing feats with the FAB are to come, but we're still newbies...

Thanks in advance for your help!

rt cf 12/15/04 FAB 23/7

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Haven't seen it myself Kori.

s.

Re: Re: How is he slipping out of his shoe?

*can* a baby slip out of the Ponseti/ brace? Anyone ever have this

happen?

Kori

At 07:54 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote:

>Are you all talking about the shoes or the Markell shoes? We have

>the shoes and if they are not tight enough, Abbi has figured out

>how to wiggle out of her shoes....I once talked to a mom who had Markell

>shoes,though, and her way of keeping the shoes on was to lace the shoe

>backwards--meaning you tie the shoes at the toes, making it easier to

>tighten them without having the kids slide out of the shoes. This mom also

>uses Baby Gap socks--ones that have traction on the bottoms, making it

>easier to keep the heel and bottoms of the feet down flat on the shoe. I

>hope this helps...

>Becky --mom if Abbi--bilateral atypical- complex clubfeet

>

>frogabog frogabog@...> wrote:

>could be bar length too. Make sure to check that as it'll help pull the

>heel out if it's too short or too long.

>

>Kori

>

>

>At 02:09 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote:

> >,

> >I think it is supposed to be harder for them to get their foot out if

> >you have the tongue lower because you can snug up the laces around

> >their ankle more. I would say that if the strap can be tighter, make

> >it so. As long as that foot is seated properly in the shoe with the

> >heel down and back I don't think there is such a thing as too tight.

> >HTH.

> >

> >

> >Jenna (4/7/01) & Sammy (9/25/04, RCF, Dobbs Brace 16-18/7)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Okay, here's my question of the day. I'm sure it's been answered

> >before a million times, so I'm sorry for being repeptitive. How is my

> >4.5 month old slipping his clubfoot out of his shoe??? His good foot

> >has not slipped out once. Today is the 2nd time in a week and a half

> >that he managed to get his cf foot out. Why? Why? I'm putting them

> >on tight. Should I go even tighter? I've noticed that he is haveing

> >much better dorsiflexion these days. It doesn't hurt him or stiffen

> >up when I stretch his foot and place it flat and stretch his achilles

> >tendon. I don't know what to do... Should I move the tongue higher

> >up on the foot or keep it lower like the tips suggested? I can't

> >believe he has managed to do this! I know even more amazing feats

> >with the FAB are to come, but we're still newbies...

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance for your help!

> > >

> > >

> > > rt cf 12/15/04 FAB 23/7

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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has not been able to slip her feet out of the brace, yet

anyway. She was Houdini in the Markells, but part of that was

incorrection.

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Is there a heel pad in the shoe? My son has only one club foot and the

doctor said that the club foot heel is smaller due to the tendon not being

as long as the " normal " foot. If you look at the two heels, the normal

foot's heel protrudes more. We have been lucky because Bryce's foot

hasn't slipped out yet. Although, when I picked him up from daycare

yesterday his foot was slipping a little. I think this is because he is

kicking a lot more than when he was younger. If there isn't a heel insert

in the boot, I would ask about getting one. It may help and it may not.

Angie and Bryce and too :)

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What is the difference between the two types of shoes? I'm not sure what

shoe my son wears.

thank!

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Do they look like white boots or Berkinstocks?

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

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mitchell shoes looks like mini birkenstocks with straps and are made from a mold

they take of the children's feet whereas Markell shoes are old white hard shoes

with laces.

Porter aporter@...> wrote:What is the difference

between the two types of shoes? I'm not sure what

shoe my son wears.

thank!

Porter

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