Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I have been hearing alot about different shoes on the bar. I am now wondering what kind of shoes your children all have on the bar, my son's look like a white open toed high-top that laces and buckles. Isn't there any way we or they can put a more comfortable shoe on them or do they make a better shoe/brace. Can you get the Markell's (I think that is what they are called) with a bar or will they work to put on the bar yourself! Thank you, Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Hello Jill. The Markells, which is the shoe you described, come by themselves and the bar comes separately. There are 2 types of bars that go with the Markell shoes: a gold, fixed length bar and a red, adjustable bar. Many prefer the red adjustable bar because when the baby grows, you don't have to keep getting a new bar. There is another type of shoe and brace altogether which is the Ponseti brace or P/M (abreviated on this site). This shoe looks like a Berkinstock (sp?) style sandle and a silver adjustable bar. No other style bar can be used with the P/M's. There is also a special brace Dr. Dobbs has developed, which only a few of his patients have. His bar allows the babies feet to move a little bit more independantly. I believe there are different shoes that can be used with this bar. , maybe you can describe it better. HTH!!! Shook Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 Vienna, VA 22182 x374 x374 fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 They are separate, but should come at the same time. The shoes are made to attach to the different bars, they have a hard sole with sunken screw receptacles (2). Depending on what bar you use, the bar comes with sole plates (different plates for different bars) that you screw to the bottom of the shoes. The DBB bar is actually somewhat of a misnomer, the DBB is referring to the Dennis Browne Bar which is named for the guy who first started using it. The bar that is in use now is not exactly that DBB bar but people still use the name kind of across the board for all shoes attached together by a bar. Any DBB bar you can buy commercially in the states will be made for the Markell shoes. There is one kind of attachment point that's different, and it consists of a kind of clamp which holds the soles in place. It clamps on the edges of the soles, however when Markell introduced the new and improved Ponseti Open Toe Boots in October, 03 those shoes came with a smaller lip which doesn't works with the clamps as well. The correct term for this brace is actually a Foot Abduction Bar or FAB for short. Naomi posted a description of how Dennis Browne corrected clubfeet which was kinda horrific which has kinda made us not want to use that term anymore. It wasn't gentle like the Ponseti Method is... DBB is much easier to type though lol so it kinda comes out a lot. And the orthotists use it almost exclusively it seems. There are 3-5 different bars available, maybe more obsure ones too. But the main ones are the Fillauer (red) adjustable, Fillauer (red) fixed length, Gold (I think Markell but I'm not sure, I know they distribute it) fixed length, Gold S-M-L fixed (these have three holes in each end, so you just move up a hole rather than getting a whole new bar) and a Gold adjustable in which you can move where the feet are set by loosening a screw and sliding them out or in. These are the ones that work with the Markell shoes. Come join our picture list and take a peek at some shoes and bars in the photo library there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFPics/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFPics/ Don't forget to send back the survey, once we get that you can be approved and go look at all the pics there. I also have some pics of the gold and red adjustable bars I could send you if you want to see something in particular. Just let me know what you're looking for. HTH Kori At 04:39 PM 5/16/2005, you wrote: >Ok, I am not very bright on this subject, if I am understanding >correctly you purchase the Markell's and the bar seperately and the >shoes are pre-drilled for the bar? Will they work with the DBB >bar? Or are they not used with the bar? >Thanks Again, >Jill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Jill. > > > > The Markells, which is the shoe you described, come by themselves >and the > > bar comes separately. There are 2 types of bars that go with the >Markell > > shoes: a gold, fixed length bar and a red, adjustable bar. Many >prefer > > the red adjustable bar because when the baby grows, you don't have >to keep > > getting a new bar. > > > > There is another type of shoe and brace altogether which is the >Ponseti > > brace or P/M (abreviated on this site). This shoe looks >like a > > Berkinstock (sp?) style sandle and a silver adjustable bar. No >other > > style bar can be used with the P/M's. > > > > There is also a special brace Dr. Dobbs has developed, which only >a few of > > his patients have. His bar allows the babies feet to move a >little bit > > more independantly. I believe there are different shoes that can >be used > > with this bar. , maybe you can describe it better. > > > > HTH!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Shook > > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor > > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. > > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 > > Vienna, VA 22182 > > x374 > > x374 > > fax > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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