Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Jean, After I was diagnosed with diabetes I had considerable problems with leg swelling and pain as a result. This turned out to be edema, which can be a common occurance for people with diabetes. The same goes for the vision. The higher the blood glucose readings, the more distortion there is, and problems with short distance vision occurs. Also vision becomes distorted with blood glucose that is dangerously low. These were never problems when I just had CP, they developed as the onset of diabetes began. Has had her blood glucose (blood sugar) tested? With hope and prayers, Heidi Heidi H. Griffeth South Carolina SC & SE Regional Rep. PAI, Intl. Note: All comments and advice are personal opinion only, and should not be substituted for professional medical consultation. " What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. " - Ralph Waldo Emerson Jean wrote: > Do any of you have a problem with swelling and legs hurting badly? Do any of you have problems with your vision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Welcome to the group. My name is and I am 21 yrs old. I've been affected with a mitochondrial disease since the age of 15 yrs. I too have a lot of shortness of breath. I just recently saw a new pulmonologist who ran many tests and ruled out every possible lung defect/disease that could be causing the trouble. He feels like I have a restrictive ventilatory defect just due to muscle weakness and fatigue from my disease. He didn't have anything to suggest for me to do for the sob. I do however, have heart failure so some of my sob is from that but my cardiologist doesn't believe is the main cause. Sorry I can't be of any help, but I do relate with the symptoms that you are experiencing. Good luck to you and feel free to post your questions here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Welcome to the group. I am sorry for the reasons you have to be here, but know you will find a group of caring people. My name is a and I am 29. I was diagnosed with mito at age 18. I have a lot of shortness of breath. My lungs are clear, but my pulmonologist does say that I have restricted lung disorder due to weakness in respiratory muscles. I have to do PFT's, or Pulmonary Function Tests, at least once a year to see what my lung capacity is at. I currently had them done and they are around 50-65% of what they " should " be. I get short of breath easily, especially when I am sick. I use a bipap machine at night, which does help me throughout the day. I am sorry I am not of any more help, but hopefully someone else will have more suggestions. Please know you are not alone in this. Smiles, a On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:56:45 -0000 " issnowwhite54 " issnowwhite54@...> writes: Hi, I just joined your group. I received your welcome letter and responded. I would like to know if anyone can answer some questions? Is this where I would go and ask them? One of my questions is about breathing. Any suggestions. My doctors say, my lungs are clear and my heart is not causing this shortness of breath. But upon reading some sites about this mito disease it affects breathing. I feel short of breath upon any type of exertion. I have not seen my neurologist yet to discuss this disease. We just got back the biopsy and blood work to determine this is what I have. I also have trouble getting around when walking, between the breathing and the stiffness and hurting muscles, even pushing the shopping cart kills me. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I too get shortness of breath from even mild exertion. Over some time, I've learned a lot about managing this, but this applies to ME and might (in many cases, clearly doesn't) apply to others here. Anyway, for me, one point is that a SUDDEN change from sitting at rest to jumping up and doing something exertional is most likely to trigger sob and other bad things. I think this is sort of like flooring the gas pedal on an older car, it sometimes causes a stall. Another point is that the better rested I am beforehand, the better I'll do. Also, just after meals is not good. I think this has to do with blood and hence nutrition being " already spoken for " by digestion. Finally, the strangest point, is that if I start out slowly and go on a good while (maybe struggling, but not too much) I eventually reach a " second wind " where I can continue, even accelerate a little bit, for a very long time afterwards without much difficulty. And not only that, but I will feel oddly OK in a general sort of way, like mood. When I get into this second wind, I'm rather warm and have to remove hat and gloves outdoors, for instance, even when they were needed just prior to that. Aside from the various systemic causes that other people here know more about, here's my simple take on ONE underlying cause: Muscle uses energy, and upon exertion doesn't get enough due to poor mito function. Because this feeling is usually caused by not getting enough air, the body is tricked into breathing harder (or feeling like needing to, at least) even if that's not what will help. I've noticed that when I've collapsed (just about passed out), which I don't do much these days because I know how to avoid it, that I get this strange feeling of wanting to take a HUGE breath but can't. But I can't place just why I can't take that breath. Like I'm drowning, even in the midst of air. So I take these really short shallow panting breaths, all the while feeling like any of them could be my last. I'd be really interested to hear from others, any specifics like mine above. Steve D. Some questions Hi, I just joined your group. I received your welcome letter and responded. I would like to know if anyone can answer some questions? Is this where I would go and ask them? One of my questions is about breathing. Any suggestions. My doctors say, my lungs are clear and my heart is not causing this shortness of breath. But upon reading some sites about this mito disease it affects breathing. I feel short of breath upon any type of exertion. I have not seen my neurologist yet to discuss this disease. We just got back the biopsy and blood work to determine this is what I have. I also have trouble getting around when walking, between the breathing and the stiffness and hurting muscles, even pushing the shopping cart kills me. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Steve The body burns one kind of fuel initionally and then switches I think it is fat first and then glucose, but correct me someone, if I have it backwards). Depending on your defect you are probably getting to a point of using the second type of fuel. I use to get the feeling that I just couldn't get enough air and it is scary. I have found that I avoid some things that trigger this, but more than that, I know the early signs and just rest a bit. I sometimes have the same problem with swallowing - just can't swallow what is there to go down. laurie > I too get shortness of breath from even mild exertion. Over some time, I've > learned a lot about managing this, but this applies to ME and might (in many > cases, clearly doesn't) apply to others here. > > Anyway, for me, one point is that a SUDDEN change from sitting at rest to > jumping up and doing something exertional is most likely to trigger sob and > other bad things. I think this is sort of like flooring the gas pedal on an > older car, it sometimes causes a stall. Another point is that the better > rested I am beforehand, the better I'll do. Also, just after meals is not > good. I think this has to do with blood and hence nutrition being " already > spoken for " by digestion. Finally, the strangest point, is that if I start > out slowly and go on a good while (maybe struggling, but not too much) I > eventually reach a " second wind " where I can continue, even accelerate a > little bit, for a very long time afterwards without much difficulty. And not > only that, but I will feel oddly OK in a general sort of way, like mood. > When I get into this second wind, I'm rather warm and have to remove hat and > gloves outdoors, for instance, even when they were needed just prior to > that. > > Aside from the various systemic causes that other people here know more > about, here's my simple take on ONE underlying cause: Muscle uses energy, > and upon exertion doesn't get enough due to poor mito function. Because this > feeling is usually caused by not getting enough air, the body is tricked > into breathing harder (or feeling like needing to, at least) even if that's > not what will help. > > I've noticed that when I've collapsed (just about passed out), which I > don't do much these days because I know how to avoid it, that I get this > strange feeling of wanting to take a HUGE breath but can't. But I can't > place just why I can't take that breath. Like I'm drowning, even in the > midst of air. So I take these really short shallow panting breaths, all the > while feeling like any of them could be my last. > > I'd be really interested to hear from others, any specifics like mine > above. > > Steve D. > Some questions > > > Hi, I just joined your group. I received your welcome letter and > responded. I would like to know if anyone can answer some questions? > Is this where I would go and ask them? One of my questions is about > breathing. Any suggestions. My doctors say, my lungs are clear and my > heart is not causing this shortness of breath. But upon reading some > sites about this mito disease it affects breathing. I feel short of > breath upon any type of exertion. I have not seen my neurologist yet > to discuss this disease. We just got back the biopsy and blood work to > determine this is what I have. I also have trouble getting around when > walking, between the breathing and the stiffness and hurting muscles, > even pushing the shopping cart kills me. Any ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 " Muscle glycogen remains the major source of energy during the first half-hour [of exercise]. After this period we see that fatty acids and blood glucose take over as important energy sources. " http://www.medbio.info/Horn/Time%206/muscle_metabolism.htm If anyone wants more detail, scroll down to the bottom of this page for a chart of various fuels used in muscle during timed exercise. The longer the exercise, the more dependant the muscle is on fatty acids. " Second wind " is typical of disorders of carbohydrate metabolism such as McArdle's disease. Those people are stronger once the muscle becomes dependant on lipids. > Steve > > The body burns one kind of fuel initionally and then switches I think > it is fat first and then glucose, but correct me someone, if I have it > backwards). Depending on your defect you are probably getting to a > point of using the second type of fuel. > > I use to get the feeling that I just couldn't get enough air and it is > scary. I have found that I avoid some things that trigger this, but > more than that, I know the early signs and just rest a bit. I > sometimes have the same problem with swallowing - just can't swallow > what is there to go down. > > laurie > > > > I too get shortness of breath from even mild exertion. Over some time, I've > > learned a lot about managing this, but this applies to ME and might (in many > > cases, clearly doesn't) apply to others here. > > > > Anyway, for me, one point is that a SUDDEN change from sitting at rest to > > jumping up and doing something exertional is most likely to trigger sob and > > other bad things. I think this is sort of like flooring the gas pedal on an > > older car, it sometimes causes a stall. Another point is that the better > > rested I am beforehand, the better I'll do. Also, just after meals is not > > good. I think this has to do with blood and hence nutrition being " already > > spoken for " by digestion. Finally, the strangest point, is that if I start > > out slowly and go on a good while (maybe struggling, but not too much) I > > eventually reach a " second wind " where I can continue, even accelerate a > > little bit, for a very long time afterwards without much difficulty. And not > > only that, but I will feel oddly OK in a general sort of way, like mood. > > When I get into this second wind, I'm rather warm and have to remove hat and > > gloves outdoors, for instance, even when they were needed just prior to > > that. > > > > Aside from the various systemic causes that other people here know more > > about, here's my simple take on ONE underlying cause: Muscle uses energy, > > and upon exertion doesn't get enough due to poor mito function. Because this > > feeling is usually caused by not getting enough air, the body is tricked > > into breathing harder (or feeling like needing to, at least) even if that's > > not what will help. > > > > I've noticed that when I've collapsed (just about passed out), which I > > don't do much these days because I know how to avoid it, that I get this > > strange feeling of wanting to take a HUGE breath but can't. But I can't > > place just why I can't take that breath. Like I'm drowning, even in the > > midst of air. So I take these really short shallow panting breaths, all the > > while feeling like any of them could be my last. > > > > I'd be really interested to hear from others, any specifics like mine > > above. > > > > Steve D. > > Some questions > > > > > > Hi, I just joined your group. I received your welcome letter and > > responded. I would like to know if anyone can answer some questions? > > Is this where I would go and ask them? One of my questions is about > > breathing. Any suggestions. My doctors say, my lungs are clear and my > > heart is not causing this shortness of breath. But upon reading some > > sites about this mito disease it affects breathing. I feel short of > > breath upon any type of exertion. I have not seen my neurologist yet > > to discuss this disease. We just got back the biopsy and blood work to > > determine this is what I have. I also have trouble getting around when > > walking, between the breathing and the stiffness and hurting muscles, > > even pushing the shopping cart kills me. Any ideas? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Barbara Thanks - I had a feeling I might have it backwards. Now, all I have to do is remember it correctly some way. laurie > " Muscle glycogen remains the major source of energy during the first > half-hour [of exercise]. After this period we see that fatty acids and > blood glucose take over as important energy sources. " > > http://www.medbio.info/Horn/Time%206/muscle_metabolism.htm > If anyone wants more detail, scroll down to the bottom of this page for a > chart of various fuels used in muscle during timed exercise. The longer the > exercise, the more dependant the muscle is on fatty acids. " Second wind " is > typical of disorders of carbohydrate metabolism such as McArdle's disease. > Those people are stronger once the muscle becomes dependant on lipids. > > > > > > Steve > > > > The body burns one kind of fuel initionally and then switches I think > > it is fat first and then glucose, but correct me someone, if I have it > > backwards). Depending on your defect you are probably getting to a > > point of using the second type of fuel. > > > > I use to get the feeling that I just couldn't get enough air and it is > > scary. I have found that I avoid some things that trigger this, but > > more than that, I know the early signs and just rest a bit. I > > sometimes have the same problem with swallowing - just can't swallow > > what is there to go down. > > > > laurie > > > > > > > I too get shortness of breath from even mild exertion. Over some time, > I've > > > learned a lot about managing this, but this applies to ME and might (in > many > > > cases, clearly doesn't) apply to others here. > > > > > > Anyway, for me, one point is that a SUDDEN change from sitting at rest > to > > > jumping up and doing something exertional is most likely to trigger sob > and > > > other bad things. I think this is sort of like flooring the gas pedal > on > an > > > older car, it sometimes causes a stall. Another point is that the > better > > > rested I am beforehand, the better I'll do. Also, just after meals is > not > > > good. I think this has to do with blood and hence nutrition being > " already > > > spoken for " by digestion. Finally, the strangest point, is that if I > start > > > out slowly and go on a good while (maybe struggling, but not too much) > I > > > eventually reach a " second wind " where I can continue, even accelerate > a > > > little bit, for a very long time afterwards without much difficulty. > And > not > > > only that, but I will feel oddly OK in a general sort of way, like > mood. > > > When I get into this second wind, I'm rather warm and have to remove > hat > and > > > gloves outdoors, for instance, even when they were needed just prior to > > > that. > > > > > > Aside from the various systemic causes that other people here know > more > > > about, here's my simple take on ONE underlying cause: Muscle uses > energy, > > > and upon exertion doesn't get enough due to poor mito function. Because > this > > > feeling is usually caused by not getting enough air, the body is > tricked > > > into breathing harder (or feeling like needing to, at least) even if > that's > > > not what will help. > > > > > > I've noticed that when I've collapsed (just about passed out), which I > > > don't do much these days because I know how to avoid it, that I get > this > > > strange feeling of wanting to take a HUGE breath but can't. But I can't > > > place just why I can't take that breath. Like I'm drowning, even in the > > > midst of air. So I take these really short shallow panting breaths, all > the > > > while feeling like any of them could be my last. > > > > > > I'd be really interested to hear from others, any specifics like mine > > > above. > > > > > > Steve D. > > > Some questions > > > > > > > > > Hi, I just joined your group. I received your welcome letter and > > > responded. I would like to know if anyone can answer some questions? > > > Is this where I would go and ask them? One of my questions is about > > > breathing. Any suggestions. My doctors say, my lungs are clear and > my > > > heart is not causing this shortness of breath. But upon reading some > > > sites about this mito disease it affects breathing. I feel short of > > > breath upon any type of exertion. I have not seen my neurologist yet > > > to discuss this disease. We just got back the biopsy and blood work > to > > > determine this is what I have. I also have trouble getting around > when > > > walking, between the breathing and the stiffness and hurting > muscles, > > > even pushing the shopping cart kills me. Any ideas? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Like you LAurie, I have trouble swallowing, first even though the food is in my mouth I cant start the swalloing to get it down,,,when the brain finally kicks in it takes several swallows to get it down the throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 My swallowing just happens once and awhile. Sometimes if I can burp, it helps, but even that doesn't want to happen. My best bet is to try to relax - hard to do. I often use my asthma training to relax that area of the body and sitting up rather than laying down is a must. laurie > Like you LAurie, I have trouble swallowing, first even though the food is > in my mouth I cant start the swalloing to get it down,,,when the brain > finally > kicks in it takes several swallows to get it down the throat. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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