Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the shoes - thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know the difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are great shoes although many many babies do just as well with the traditional Markell shoe. I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as we enter in to the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but once in it, it's hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our journey, as strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can do wearing that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a diaper WITH OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid things strangers say....there are funny things along the way that lighten the load. And there is this group which lightenes it even further as we share both the good and the bad here. The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we anticipate, it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel that road. But pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the bright spots that are there because they will light your way. s. Ponseti Brace instead of Markell I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way into it, and his feet are doing very well! We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly $350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. 's website after discussing personally with him. We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put them on immediately after the removal of the cast. I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born with club feet. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 This is so well said! My sentiments exactly. Bess Mommy to Elena (3/31/00) and Audrey (9/27/03), bcf, dbb 12 hrs/day At 11:35 AM 2/21/2005, you wrote: >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the shoes - >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know the >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are great shoes >although many many babies do just as well with the traditional Markell shoe. > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as we enter in to >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but once in it, it's >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our journey, as >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can do wearing >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a diaper WITH >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid things >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that lighten the >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even further as we share >both the good and the bad here. > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we anticipate, >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel that road. But >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the bright spots that >are there because they will light your way. > >s. > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > >We contacted Mr. (, >http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/)>http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) prior to >Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the tenotomy, >after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had Jonathon > " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a box or >your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born >with club feet. > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 I'm curious, but I thought the shoes (or Ponseti Brace, we're so bad here. We've called them shoes this whole time and has named it the Ponseti Brace from day one... we really should start using that name instead of . Great testament to but I think it's better to call it the Ponseti Brace - it says Ponseti right on the bar!) for the regular CFeet was to be worn at first and then the child would be transitioned to the Markell's. What's the plan for Everett anyway? And,. in all seriousness... the Markell's are good shoes. I think it's great that the 's are out there, they are needed but the Markell's do work fine for most babies with fully corrected feet... AND parents who are given appropriate information about applying them. Getting that information out is a huge problem though. With all that said... I want 's (Ponseti's lol!) for Darbi. I think with their flat sole that she might be able to walk in them unaided and they don't look like they'd tear up my floor without padding (which inhibits her walking unaided because it's so thick). Plus the toe area is much more open and she's got that curvy toe that I want to go back straight. I think these shoes would do the trick with that. Kori At 10:35 AM 2/21/2005, you wrote: >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the shoes - >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know the >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are great shoes >although many many babies do just as well with the traditional Markell shoe. > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as we enter in to >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but once in it, it's >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our journey, as >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can do wearing >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a diaper WITH >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid things >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that lighten the >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even further as we share >both the good and the bad here. > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we anticipate, >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel that road. But >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the bright spots that >are there because they will light your way. > >s. > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born >with club feet. > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 I've often wondered that too Kori. I was under the impression that these shoes were only made in infant sizes and that the kids would be transitioned to the Markells eventually anyway. My other question would be is it really feasible for anyone to be telling ALL new parents to insist on the s instead of the Markells? What I mean by that is that is only one man. Currently he is making all these shoes by hand. If he is going to keep doing that and all parents start insisting on them, there will shortly come a time when it will be physically impossible for the supply to meet the demand. Some kids who would have done quite well with the Markells will be wearing s while some kids who really need the MItchells due to atypical clubfeet won't be able to get them. I've said it before, and I'll say it again....the Markells have worked just fine with little to no problem for thousands of babies. When used correctly on a competely corrected non-atypical clubfoot there shouldn't be a need for the s. The s definitely do have a place in treating the atypical clubfoot and it is a blessing that they are available to these kids who had no other options before. Again, I think the focus needs to be on educating doctors to correct feet the right way and to educate parents on the correct usage. Until the supply problems can be worked out this seems to be the better choice. Jen & Livie Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born >with club feet. > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 kids certainly are amazing in this DBB. This morning, Kelsey learned that she can climb over the back of the couch with the brace on. SHe can climb all of the stairs to the 2nd floor. I am so glad we took her out of her crib or she would be scaling that I am sure. Jenni --- number23 number23@...> wrote: > By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the > shoes - thought I'd clear that up to a few > newbies who may not know the difference. But > otherwise I totally agree with you, they are great > shoes although many many babies do just as well with > the traditional Markell shoe. > > I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in > hindsight as we enter in to the cf world how dark > and dreery the door way appears but once in it, it's > hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and > enjoying our journey, as strange as that is to say. > The funny things these kids can do wearing that dang > DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a > diaper WITH OUT the bar on....now there's a > challenge! haha ...the stupid things strangers > say....there are funny things along the way that > lighten the load. And there is this group which > lightenes it even further as we share both the good > and the bad here. > > The journery through correction is not nearly as > heavy as we anticipate, it just seems that way when > we learn we'll have to travel that road. But pack > light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the > bright spots that are there because they will light > your way. > > s. > > Ponseti Brace instead > of Markell > > > > > > I just wanted to post this because when I first had > my ultrasound and they found Jonathon's club feet I > read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, and > although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It > really helped me to hear what club feet were really > like, and now that I have the experience of having a > kid who made it through correction pretty easily I > figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for > some of you struggling with the Markell shoes this > might be a help!!! > > > > Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the > Markell shoe, and has had excellent results. His > feet are showing an extremely high degree of > retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never > had a pressure sore, blister, raw spot, or any acute > issue from the brace. He did dislike getting it put > on in the beginning for the first week or two after > the casts were removed most likely due to increased > sensitivity after treatment. It did take us a > couple weeks to get his heel as " down and back " in > the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we > worked our way into it, and his feet are doing very > well! > > > > We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is > not quite all set up as a provider with the > insurance companies yet. The initial brace is > roughly $350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The > bar does not need to be replaced and is $70 dollars > or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. > 's website after discussing personally with > him. > > > > We contacted Mr. (, > http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) prior to Jonathon's > heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the > tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to > the surgery, we had Jonathon " step " on foam in a box > (Mr. can send you the foam in a box or your > Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. > .) We Fedex'd the box to Mr. who > was expecting them. He had the shoes delivered to > our home before the removal of the casts. We > brought the shoes with us to Dr. the day the > last cast was removed, and he put them on > immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > I would strongly suggest people find a way to get > their children these new shoes instead of the > Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your > Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the > website information. If they are really Ponseti > certified they should be supportive. The brace was > designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also > call Dr. if they would like a peer opinion > (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now > and it is wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a > long drawn out experience full of suffering. I > believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the > Ponseti method helped us to avoid this so far. Our > treatment was hard and sad as it always is when > anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an > already fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has > " normal " looking and functioning feet. He exhibits > no pain when we point or flex his foot and he is a > happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that > the worst of our ordeal is over and wish this for > every family and child who was born with club feet. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Hmm, the plan for Everett?????? What plan? You mean I'm supposed to have a plan? why didn't anyone tell me! Yikes! hahahah I started him in the Markell shoes when he was about 7 weeks old and he had severe issues with them causing pressure sores on his heels. We thought the actual shoe was faulty and tried a new pair (Markells) with same results; that when Dr. Ponseti said to call MItchell, *They fit like a glove!* he told us, so we called and he built us a pair back when they were just prototypes. They did the trick! So we went with a 2nd pair of Ponseti Brace ('s) that we're in now. I'm seriously considering a regular pair of Markell's next though, because of the price difference. I hope his feet are big enough now they will fit him with out issue and I understand some improvements have been made to those shoes too. His basic plan is to just wear the DBB till Dr. Ponseti tells us he doesn't have to anymore. He's 17 months old tomorrow, wearing the DBB 14 hours a day. s. Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born >with club feet. > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 ee, Just curious, what size shoes does Everrett have?? is still in a two and they are still big on him! But the puffiness on the top of his feet is actually going down a bit and the creases on soles are getting better! Yay!!!!! > > >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the shoes - > >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know the > >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are great shoes > >although many many babies do just as well with the traditional Markell shoe. > > > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as we enter in to > >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but once in it, it's > >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our journey, as > >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can do wearing > >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a diaper WITH > >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid things > >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that lighten the > >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even further as we share > >both the good and the bad here. > > > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we anticipate, > >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel that road. But > >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the bright spots that > >are there because they will light your way. > > > >s. > > > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born > >with club feet. > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 They say 2 on the back of them, so I assume that's size 2. These are just now fitting him like a perfect fit, so he's on the way of growing out of them but I'm sure that won't be for several more months. I'm thrilled to hear is making so much progress! Walking, putting his heel down - and you removed those wedges??? Wow, that was fast! Yesterday at Grandma's Everett was showing off to her all his walking styles. He can walk straight legged waddling like a duck, really leaning to the left then to the right; he can walk backwards. He can run (kind of); then stop suddenly and turn. He can spin circles until he's dizzy....he went on and on showing off various walking techniques, it was funny. s. From: Wold To: nosurgery4clubfoot Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Ponseti Brace instead of Markell ee, Just curious, what size shoes does Everrett have?? is still in a two and they are still big on him! But the puffiness on the top of his feet is actually going down a bit and the creases on soles are getting better! Yay!!!!! > > >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the shoes - > >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know the > >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are great shoes > >although many many babies do just as well with the traditional Markell shoe. > > > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as we enter in to > >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but once in it, it's > >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our journey, as > >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can do wearing > >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a diaper WITH > >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid things > >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that lighten the > >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even further as we share > >both the good and the bad here. > > > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we anticipate, > >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel that road. But > >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the bright spots that > >are there because they will light your way. > > > >s. > > > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born > >with club feet. > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 omigosh! How exciting!!! It's so awesome to hear how well he's doing! Keep going Everrett!!!!! Get ready mom! LOL > > > > >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the shoes - > > >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know the > > >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are great shoes > > >although many many babies do just as well with the traditional Markell shoe. > > > > > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as we enter in to > > >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but once in it, it's > > >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our journey, as > > >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can do wearing > > >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a diaper WITH > > >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid things > > >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that lighten the > > >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even further as we share > > >both the good and the bad here. > > > > > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we anticipate, > > >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel that road. But > > >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the bright spots that > > >are there because they will light your way. > > > > > >s. > > > > > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they > > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, > > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me > > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the > > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I > > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling > > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has > > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of > > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, > > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike > > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the > > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after > > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and > > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way > > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as > > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly > > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be > > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. > > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the > > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had > > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a > > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We > > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes > > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the > > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put > > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new > > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your > > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If > > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace > > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. > > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full > > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti > > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as > > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already > > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and > > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and > > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of > > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born > > >with club feet. > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 My doc went to see Dr. P back in November, when we were going through deciding whether to put Ava in the DBB like Dr. P says or the DAFO, which is what my doc prescribed. Anyway, when I talked to him more he said that when he was in Iowa with Dr. P he wasn't even really using the Markells anymore (not sure how true that is) but is mostly prescribing the Ponseti Brace/s for everyone. He was going to put my daughter into the s, but we got a pair of Markells from someone on here & decided to give them a shot first. Thankfully they've worked fine (saved us some $$$!) but just thought I'd let you know what our doc said. At least that's the impression he got from Dr. P. , mommy of: Guinevere, on, Ava 8/4/04 right CF DBB 23/7 (4 days left!) > > >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the shoes - > >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know the > >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are great shoes > >although many many babies do just as well with the traditional Markell shoe. > > > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as we enter in to > >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but once in it, it's > >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our journey, as > >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can do wearing > >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a diaper WITH > >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid things > >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that lighten the > >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even further as we share > >both the good and the bad here. > > > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we anticipate, > >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel that road. But > >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the bright spots that > >are there because they will light your way. > > > >s. > > > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born > >with club feet. > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 the plan, I meant to use 's forever or to switch to the Markell's eventually. I think you'll find they do work well, especially on a nicely corrected older foot. I don't think they could cause a sore on Darbi's foot now if I tried (loosened them, etc.) I didn't know you had sores too, no maybe I did... I can hardly remember my own name recently... Do you think it was because you weren't getting the heel down? Because we KNOW Dr. Ponseti had his feet fully corrected. Oh wait... I do remember something about you saying you thought it was user error... it's coming back to me now... I stand by the idea that these shoes work, and can work well on a newly corrected tiny little foot. But really, only if you get the feet in them properly. Which is not easy if you don't know how to do it, heck, it's not exactly easy when you do know how to do it. I think it's a combination of not pushing the heel down and not getting them tight enough (as a result of not pushing the heel down enough) that is the cause of the problems we see with fully corrected feet and not the shoe's fault. We're told to make them tight. But if the heel is rising up, you can tighten them with vice grips and it's never going to be tight enough. Kori At 11:33 AM 2/21/2005, you wrote: >Hmm, the plan for Everett?????? What plan? You mean I'm supposed to have >a plan? why didn't anyone tell me! Yikes! hahahah > >I started him in the Markell shoes when he was about 7 weeks old and he >had severe issues with them causing pressure sores on his heels. We >thought the actual shoe was faulty and tried a new pair (Markells) with >same results; that when Dr. Ponseti said to call MItchell, *They fit >like a glove!* he told us, so we called and he built us a pair back >when they were just prototypes. They did the trick! So we went with a >2nd pair of Ponseti Brace ('s) that we're in now. I'm seriously >considering a regular pair of Markell's next though, because of the price >difference. I hope his feet are big enough now they will fit him with out >issue and I understand some improvements have been made to those shoes too. > >His basic plan is to just wear the DBB till Dr. Ponseti tells us he >doesn't have to anymore. He's 17 months old tomorrow, wearing the DBB 14 >hours a day. >s. > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born > >with club feet. > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 You know its interesting what you said about Dr.P not using the markells anymore. and i say this because when we went to see him in december my daughter was wearing the markells. he asked me to take them off and told me those shoes would not help my daughter, he said she needed the mitchell shoes. i agreed and they have been great on her. i dont mean to sound negative about the markells although my daughter could not stand being in them and got sores from them but it was because her feet were not corrected. but i wonder why Dr.P sounded so negative about them if there are a lot of children out there wearing the markells. Dr. P told me he did not want her in the markells again, just the mitchells and they have been great on her. just thought i would put my 2 cents in and see if anyone knows why Dr.P pushes or favors the mitchell brace(ponseti brace). and BL CF 12/16/03 s 23/7 (5 days left!!) > > > > >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the > shoes - > > >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know the > > >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are > great shoes > > >although many many babies do just as well with the traditional > Markell shoe. > > > > > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as we > enter in to > > >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but once > in it, it's > > >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our > journey, as > > >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can do > wearing > > >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a > diaper WITH > > >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid > things > > >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that > lighten the > > >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even further > as we share > > >both the good and the bad here. > > > > > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we > anticipate, > > >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel that > road. But > > >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the bright > spots that > > >are there because they will light your way. > > > > > >s. > > > > > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my > ultrasound and they > > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this > bulletin board, > > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really > helped me > > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have > the > > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction > pretty easily I > > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you > struggling > > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell > shoe, and has > > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high > degree of > > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a > pressure sore, > > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did > dislike > > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two > after the > > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity > after > > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel > as " down and > > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we > worked our way > > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite > all set up as > > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace > is roughly > > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need > to be > > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right > on Mr. > > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, > http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day > of the > > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, > we had > > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the > foam in a > > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. > .) We > > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had > the shoes > > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We > brought the > > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, > and he put > > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their > children these new > > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If > your > > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website > information. If > > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. > The brace > > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call > Dr. > > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out > experience full > > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the > Ponseti > > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard > and sad as > > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is > an already > > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking > and > > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex > his foot and > > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that > the worst of > > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who > was born > > >with club feet. > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 I think you raised a good point. I am curious if it's because the atypical cf wouldn't do well in the markells maybe Dr. P asked them to improve their shoe to accomadate the atypical foot and they figure they help x-amount of feet the shoes are fine. So then came out with the mitchells which would fit any type of cf so he pushes for them. I don't know the real answer its JMO. KK > > > > > > >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the > > shoes - > > > >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know > the > > > >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are > > great shoes > > > >although many many babies do just as well with the > traditional > > Markell shoe. > > > > > > > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as > we > > enter in to > > > >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but > once > > in it, it's > > > >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our > > journey, as > > > >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can > do > > wearing > > > >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change > a > > diaper WITH > > > >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid > > things > > > >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that > > lighten the > > > >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even > further > > as we share > > > >both the good and the bad here. > > > > > > > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we > > anticipate, > > > >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel > that > > road. But > > > >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the > bright > > spots that > > > >are there because they will light your way. > > > > > > > >s. > > > > > > > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my > > ultrasound and they > > > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this > > bulletin board, > > > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It > really > > helped me > > > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have > > the > > > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction > > pretty easily I > > > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of > you > > struggling > > > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell > > shoe, and has > > > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely > high > > degree of > > > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a > > pressure sore, > > > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did > > dislike > > > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two > > after the > > > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity > > after > > > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel > > as " down and > > > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we > > worked our way > > > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite > > all set up as > > > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial > brace > > is roughly > > > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not > need > > to be > > > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes > right > > on Mr. > > > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, > > http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > > > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The > day > > of the > > > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the > surgery, > > we had > > > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you > the > > foam in a > > > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. > > .) We > > > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He > had > > the shoes > > > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We > > brought the > > > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was > removed, > > and he put > > > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their > > children these new > > > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! > If > > your > > > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website > > information. If > > > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. > > The brace > > > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call > > Dr. > > > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > > > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out > > experience full > > > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to > the > > Ponseti > > > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was > hard > > and sad as > > > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is > > an already > > > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking > > and > > > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex > > his foot and > > > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that > > the worst of > > > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child > who > > was born > > > >with club feet. > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Our problems with the Markell boots.......I just don't know. On that first pair there really did seem to be a problem with the back seam, sort of a lump sewn in to it and we really thought that was the culprit...but the 2nd pair did the same damage to his foot. I do remember how huge-ly difficult it seemed to get them on him - I mean it was awful trying to get those damn things on. I absolutely hated trying to deal with all that string and crap, trying to hold him still, not being sure if the heel was in place or not. We took all the string and tongue out, placed his foot in right, drew the little line where his toe should go, put it all back together, put his foot in, the toe seemed right at the line and stuff, but he cried non stop and got sores. I never noticed the foot slipping either in or out (based on that line). They just hurt and made sores. I'm not really sure why. The /Ponseti sandles solved all of that. He fussed a little bit when I put them on at first, but it was just fussy, not screaming in pain, and soon he didn't even do that anymore. You SEE the heel, and there's just three little buckles like you'd have on any old pair of baby sandles. They take all the guess work out of it so I can see why a lot of parents would opt for those shoes in the beginning. If the 's weren't so expensive I'd stick with them. But I know now I can cut the back out of the Markells, which I didn't know then. I'm guessing all told it ws a combination user error and his feet being so small too. s. Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born > >with club feet. > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Interesting. We go next month to see Dr. P - I'll try to remember to ask him more about that since I was aiming at using the Markells in the future. s. Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my > ultrasound and they > > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this > bulletin board, > > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really > helped me > > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have > the > > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction > pretty easily I > > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you > struggling > > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell > shoe, and has > > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high > degree of > > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a > pressure sore, > > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did > dislike > > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two > after the > > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity > after > > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel > as " down and > > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we > worked our way > > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite > all set up as > > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace > is roughly > > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need > to be > > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right > on Mr. > > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, > http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day > of the > > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, > we had > > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the > foam in a > > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. > .) We > > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had > the shoes > > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We > brought the > > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, > and he put > > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their > children these new > > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If > your > > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website > information. If > > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. > The brace > > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call > Dr. > > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out > experience full > > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the > Ponseti > > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard > and sad as > > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is > an already > > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking > and > > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex > his foot and > > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that > the worst of > > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who > was born > > >with club feet. > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 It only makes sense to me...the Markells have been around forever (the basic concept, I know they adjust the style occasionally) and are not specifically made for CF, they're used for a variety of things, right? So the s or Ponseti Brace is designed by Dr. P for his CF babies. It's like the difference between a shoe you buy at Payless for 11.99, which gets the job done, but just doesn't compare to the custom made Italian leather jobbers for tons more $$$, but are specifically made for your foot. Obviously one is better than the other. Now for me, I'm Payless all the way! But I would have gladly handed over my measly savings account for a pair of s if my daughter needed them. , mommy of: Guinevere, on, Ava 8/4/04 right CF DBB 23/7 > > > > > > >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the > > shoes - > > > >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know > the > > > >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are > > great shoes > > > >although many many babies do just as well with the > traditional > > Markell shoe. > > > > > > > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as > we > > enter in to > > > >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but > once > > in it, it's > > > >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our > > journey, as > > > >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can > do > > wearing > > > >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change > a > > diaper WITH > > > >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid > > things > > > >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that > > lighten the > > > >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even > further > > as we share > > > >both the good and the bad here. > > > > > > > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we > > anticipate, > > > >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel > that > > road. But > > > >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the > bright > > spots that > > > >are there because they will light your way. > > > > > > > >s. > > > > > > > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my > > ultrasound and they > > > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this > > bulletin board, > > > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It > really > > helped me > > > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have > > the > > > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction > > pretty easily I > > > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of > you > > struggling > > > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell > > shoe, and has > > > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely > high > > degree of > > > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a > > pressure sore, > > > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did > > dislike > > > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two > > after the > > > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity > > after > > > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel > > as " down and > > > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we > > worked our way > > > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite > > all set up as > > > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial > brace > > is roughly > > > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not > need > > to be > > > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes > right > > on Mr. > > > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, > > http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > > > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The > day > > of the > > > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the > surgery, > > we had > > > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you > the > > foam in a > > > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. > > .) We > > > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He > had > > the shoes > > > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We > > brought the > > > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was > removed, > > and he put > > > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their > > children these new > > > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! > If > > your > > > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website > > information. If > > > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. > > The brace > > > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call > > Dr. > > > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > > > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out > > experience full > > > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to > the > > Ponseti > > > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was > hard > > and sad as > > > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is > > an already > > > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking > > and > > > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex > > his foot and > > > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that > > the worst of > > > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child > who > > was born > > > >with club feet. > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 I think he's in the process of opening a production plant. Also, my perspective was if there was something that was better I wanted it for my son. I'm not the type that will mess around with less than the best when it comes to my kids health. With the size thing, he sent us our second pair, and they are big enough to carry him through at least 18 months so I'm just going to play it by ear and hope he keeps making them for us until we don't need them any more. Sally > > >By the *Ponseti Brace* you are referring to the shoes - > >thought I'd clear that up to a few newbies who may not know the > >difference. But otherwise I totally agree with you, they are great shoes > >although many many babies do just as well with the traditional Markell shoe. > > > >I wanted to add also that it's almost funny in hindsight as we enter in to > >the cf world how dark and dreery the door way appears but once in it, it's > >hardly dark at all and we all end up joking and enjoying our journey, as > >strange as that is to say. The funny things these kids can do wearing > >that dang DBB or casts is almost a hoot. Learning to change a diaper WITH > >OUT the bar on....now there's a challenge! haha ...the stupid things > >strangers say....there are funny things along the way that lighten the > >load. And there is this group which lightenes it even further as we share > >both the good and the bad here. > > > >The journery through correction is not nearly as heavy as we anticipate, > >it just seems that way when we learn we'll have to travel that road. But > >pack light, step with confidence, enjoy and look for the bright spots that > >are there because they will light your way. > > > >s. > > > > Ponseti Brace instead of Markell > > > > > > > > > > > >I just wanted to post this because when I first had my ultrasound and they > >found Jonathon's club feet I read a lot of posts on this bulletin board, > >and although I hardly wrote a thing I learned a lot. It really helped me > >to hear what club feet were really like, and now that I have the > >experience of having a kid who made it through correction pretty easily I > >figured I should contribute. I was hoping that for some of you struggling > >with the Markell shoes this might be a help!!! > > > > > > > >Jonathon has used the Ponseti brace instead of the Markell shoe, and has > >had excellent results. His feet are showing an extremely high degree of > >retainment of the correction. Jonathon has never had a pressure sore, > >blister, raw spot, or any acute issue from the brace. He did dislike > >getting it put on in the beginning for the first week or two after the > >casts were removed most likely due to increased sensitivity after > >treatment. It did take us a couple weeks to get his heel as " down and > >back " in the shoe as the instruction picture showed, but we worked our way > >into it, and his feet are doing very well! > > > > > > > >We have paid cash for the brace as Mr. is not quite all set up as > >a provider with the insurance companies yet. The initial brace is roughly > >$350 with $22 of shipping and handling. The bar does not need to be > >replaced and is $70 dollars or so. We ordered the shoes right on Mr. > >'s website after discussing personally with him. > > > > > > > >We contacted Mr. (, http://www.mdorthopaedics.org/) > >prior to Jonathon's heel cord lengthening (tenotomy). The day of the > >tenotomy, after the cast was removed but prior to the surgery, we had > >Jonathon " step " on foam in a box (Mr. can send you the foam in a > >box or your Dr. may already have some if they work with Mr. .) We > >Fedex'd the box to Mr. who was expecting them. He had the shoes > >delivered to our home before the removal of the casts. We brought the > >shoes with us to Dr. the day the last cast was removed, and he put > >them on immediately after the removal of the cast. > > > > > > > >I would strongly suggest people find a way to get their children these new > >shoes instead of the Markell shoes. They are so wonderful! If your > >Doctor hesitates to use them, give him or her the website information. If > >they are really Ponseti certified they should be supportive. The brace > >was designed with input from Dr. Ponseti. They can also call Dr. > >if they would like a peer opinion (www.orthoforkids.com) > > > > > > > >Jonathon has had " normal " feet for a few weeks now and it is > >wonderful. Clubfoot can turn into such a long drawn out experience full > >of suffering. I believe the Ponseti brace and adherence to the Ponseti > >method helped us to avoid this so far. Our treatment was hard and sad as > >it always is when anything is wrong with an infant, but it is an already > >fading memory. Jonathon at 5 months old has " normal " looking and > >functioning feet. He exhibits no pain when we point or flex his foot and > >he is a happy go lucky little baby. I feel so relieved that the worst of > >our ordeal is over and wish this for every family and child who was born > >with club feet. > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 > Also, my perspective was if there was something that was better I > wanted it for my son. I'm not the type that will mess around with > less than the best when it comes to my kids health. When we received the Markell's for our daughter, we didn't know there was any other shoe available for cf treatment. Besides, it was never an issue for us as she did well in them, no problems at all. I don't think I (or the majority of parents for that matter) have settled for less than the best for my daughters health/treatment by using the Markell shoes, they have worked well for us. & Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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