Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 My son who remains undiagnosed at this time is 5.5 years old. He is very verbal and had just speech between 3 and 4. He had several sensory issues and still does to some extent. Also very small and has digestive problems. Due to all of this I put him on gfcf with his younger diagnosed ASD brother. I also just started SNT and probiotics 3 days ago. The last 2 days I have noticed his raising his arm slightly and flicking his wrist a couple of times then stops. He can't tell me why he is doing it and I am not sure he is fully aware when he is doing it. Does this sound familiar to any of you? My younger ASD son doesn't have any arm flapping issues so I am not sure what this is in my older son. Can the diet and suppliments bring out some inner or hidden behavoirs beneath the surface? Will this behavoir go away once my older son's body adjusts to the suppliments and diet. He tells me he feels so much better now and he is no longer constipated....we have been GFCF since Easter. Before that we were for 4 days but on antibotics that we probably not GFCF. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Debbie, Our son did the same thing on SNT. The Mega dose of B6 can cause numbness in the hands and feet. Our son is almost non verbal so he was unable to tell us anything. He would grab his wrist or lower arm and " wave " his hand while looking at it. This is much different than the classic hand " flapping " that he does. We took him off of the SNT and the waving stopped. We think we finally figured out that it was numbness in his hand that was the cause. Following is a quote from a paper Bernard Rimland, Ph.D. wrote in 1996 titled " Vitamin B6 in autism: the safety issue " : " Tens of thousand of people, including thousands of autistic children and adults, took large doses throughout the '60s, '70s, and beginning '80s with no reported signs of any adverse effects. However, in 1983, a paper by Schaumburg et al. reported significant, though not permanent nor life-threatening side effects in 7 patients who had been taking 2,000 mg to 6,000 mg per day of B6. The side effects, peripheral neuropathy, were numbness and tingling in the hands and feet-the sensation one gets when one's hand or foot " falls asleep. " The foot numbness in some cases interfered with walking. These patients were not taking magnesium, the other B vitamins, nor any of the other nutrients that should be taken if one is taking large amounts of B6. It is at least possible that the adverse reactions were due not to B6 " toxicity " but to deficiencies of magnesium and the other B vitamins induced by taking large amounts of B6. " The entire paper can be read at http://www.autism.com/ari/editorials/b6safe.html. Bill and Charlotte Toney, Alabama Dad and Mom to 4 yo , ASD Re: Suppliments/diet/and hand flapping? My son who remains undiagnosed at this time is 5.5 years old. He is very verbal and had just speech between 3 and 4. He had several sensory issues and still does to some extent. Also very small and has digestive problems. Due to all of this I put him on gfcf with his younger diagnosed ASD brother. I also just started SNT and probiotics 3 days ago. The last 2 days I have noticed his raising his arm slightly and flicking his wrist a couple of times then stops. He can't tell me why he is doing it and I am not sure he is fully aware when he is doing it. Does this sound familiar to any of you? My younger ASD son doesn't have any arm flapping issues so I am not sure what this is in my older son. Can the diet and suppliments bring out some inner or hidden behavoirs beneath the surface? Will this behavoir go away once my older son's body adjusts to the suppliments and diet. He tells me he feels so much better now and he is no longer constipated....we have been GFCF since Easter. Before that we were for 4 days but on antibotics that we probably not GFCF. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 In a message dated 4/26/01 4:12:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wcoleman@... writes: > The side effects, peripheral neuropathy, were > numbness and tingling in the hands and feet-the sensation one gets when > one's hand or foot " falls asleep. " The foot numbness in some cases > interfered with walking. These patients were not taking magnesium, the other > B vitamins, nor any of the other nutrients that should be taken if one is > taking large amounts of B6. It is at least possible that the adverse > reactions were due not to B6 " toxicity " but to deficiencies of magnesium and > the other B vitamins induced by taking large amounts of B6. " > > Thanks so much for that info. We do think he is deficient in mag. and my DAN dietitian did give me mag. but I am not supposed to give it until we get to full dose of SNT by the 5th day. I am going to call her tomorrow and tell her what I am seeing. Thanks again. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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