Re: Questions on weight gain- Jocelyn

[Guest guest]

Ok, here goes the rest of my rant LOL

I am not on any birth control other then condoms so, no that is not it....

Also I am trained by BTC as a support group leader and I know that my body is

not in " starvation mode " actually I have consulted several times with the

nutritionists there as well. Going back on liquids would not be a good idea per

there advice.

Actually, I honestly do what I am supposed to do in regard to diet, vitamins

and exercise. My body will NOT lose weight. I also know that many, not few,

but many of my contacts through BTC and support groups have similar problems 3+

years out of surgery. The reason why many of them do not say anything or what

I like to term " disappear " from support groups is because they are made to

feel that they are doing something wrong if they gain weight or cannot easier

drop it after pregnancy. This surgery is not 100% effective. By BTC standards

you

are a success to them if you lose 20% excess body weight. I personally, have

had to come to adjust my thinking to what is a success to me.

1. I am healthier

2. I have a beautiful baby

3. I have grown as a person.

I think if you are still caught up in the numbers game or weighing yourself

everyday you are missing the point of what this surgery is supposed to do. So,

in response to the original post if you will be miserable if you cannot fit

into your size 10 jeans after pregnancy, think about it long and hard. But, for

me it was worth it, 25 excess lbs and all!

Again, just my opinion,

Jocelyn

RNY 11/13/00

10/7/03

[Guest guest]

Jocelyn,

My PCP told me that it can take up to a year for ANY woman to lose

the 10-25 extra pounds after the baby is born - and that only the

media portrays it other wise. If you aren't drinking soda and

loading up on potato chips then I think you are already covering

your bases! Love your curves! You earned them.

I am nervous about gaining, but not 25 pounds - 80 pounds. This

will be my first pregnancy after RNY, and I know that I never want

to be obese again. That being said, its going to take more that 40

pounds to put me over. I am going to eat and exercise (reasonably)

and if I gain, then I gain. If I don't, then I don't. As long as i

get a healthy baby out of it - I am happy.

> Ok, here goes the rest of my rant LOL

> I am not on any birth control other then condoms so, no that is

not it....

> Also I am trained by BTC as a support group leader and I know that

my body is

> not in " starvation mode " actually I have consulted several times

with the

> nutritionists there as well. Going back on liquids would not be a

good idea per

> there advice.

> Actually, I honestly do what I am supposed to do in regard to

diet, vitamins

> and exercise. My body will NOT lose weight. I also know that many,

not few,

> but many of my contacts through BTC and support groups have

similar problems 3+

> years out of surgery. The reason why many of them do not say

anything or what

> I like to term " disappear " from support groups is because they are

made to

> feel that they are doing something wrong if they gain weight or

cannot easier

> drop it after pregnancy. This surgery is not 100% effective. By

BTC standards you

> are a success to them if you lose 20% excess body weight. I

personally, have

> had to come to adjust my thinking to what is a success to me.

> 1. I am healthier

> 2. I have a beautiful baby

> 3. I have grown as a person.

> I think if you are still caught up in the numbers game or weighing

yourself

> everyday you are missing the point of what this surgery is

supposed to do. So,

> in response to the original post if you will be miserable if you

cannot fit

> into your size 10 jeans after pregnancy, think about it long and

hard. But, for

> me it was worth it, 25 excess lbs and all!

> Again, just my opinion,

> Jocelyn

> RNY 11/13/00

> 10/7/03

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think I was " knocking " anyone. Just saying to really think about it.

I have been morbidly obese for 20 years.... and I am not saying that WLS is a

bad thing at ALL. I am saying that I have heard on this board that it is

" easy " to lose weight after the baby or that the weight " falls back off " like it

may have with WLS. I am saying that in my experience myself and as a support

leader that it is not always the case.

Josie

[Guest guest]

I think that small life style changes like switching to something that is

healthier for you is always going to be better in the long run then a " crash

diet " .

Josie

[Guest guest]

Jocelyn,

I understand that you have had a difficult time losing the weight and

I can appreciate the fact that you are very happy with your baby.

However, it is a very real fear of many people that they will gain

all the weight back. I saw one of your posts where you said you knew

you would probably get slammed for showing the negative side of WLS,

but, don't you think it is a little negative to knock someone because

they want to fit back into their size 10's after being heavy for over

18 years? I am very happy to finally be able to fit into " normal "

clothes and while I worry about the health of a future baby, I also

worry about my future health. I realize WLS is a tool, but if having

a baby is going to make that tool no longer work, than didn't I just

postpone the inevitable? For me that was diabetes, high cholesterol

and heart problems. I just want to know that I am not going to be

unhealthy after the pregnancy. Is that a bad thing? Just my two

cents.

> Ok, here goes the rest of my rant LOL

> I am not on any birth control other then condoms so, no that is not

it....

> Also I am trained by BTC as a support group leader and I know that

my body is

> not in " starvation mode " actually I have consulted several times

with the

> nutritionists there as well. Going back on liquids would not be a

good idea per

> there advice.

> Actually, I honestly do what I am supposed to do in regard to diet,

vitamins

> and exercise. My body will NOT lose weight. I also know that many,

not few,

> but many of my contacts through BTC and support groups have similar

problems 3+

> years out of surgery. The reason why many of them do not say

anything or what

> I like to term " disappear " from support groups is because they are

made to

> feel that they are doing something wrong if they gain weight or

cannot easier

> drop it after pregnancy. This surgery is not 100% effective. By BTC

standards you

> are a success to them if you lose 20% excess body weight. I

personally, have

> had to come to adjust my thinking to what is a success to me.

> 1. I am healthier

> 2. I have a beautiful baby

> 3. I have grown as a person.

> I think if you are still caught up in the numbers game or weighing

yourself

> everyday you are missing the point of what this surgery is supposed

to do. So,

> in response to the original post if you will be miserable if you

cannot fit

> into your size 10 jeans after pregnancy, think about it long and

hard. But, for

> me it was worth it, 25 excess lbs and all!

> Again, just my opinion,

> Jocelyn

> RNY 11/13/00

> 10/7/03

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" " wrote: " don't you think it is a little negative to knock

someone because they want to fit back into their size 10's "

" if having a baby is going to make that tool no longer work, than

didn't I just postpone the inevitable? "

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Moderaotor note:

Being a moderator in several groups, I may have missed the post you

are referring to. *If* Joycelyn didn't slam anyone for fearing of

gaining weight, but was giving her OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, then no

slamming should be done. If anyone gives their own personal

experiences, who are we to slam their choices? That makes this a

non-support group, doesn't it?

For me, the 20-25# weight gain was a fantastic trade off that I didn't

even think twice about in order to be blessed with a beautiful healthy

baby boy. For others, not bitten by the baby bug with age &

infertility being a factor in getting preg, having a baby may be more

important than ever fitting back into those size 10's. My size

14's-16's are just fine for me now. Much much better than those 28's I

was busting out of. When I feel the 14's and 16's are too large, I

will diet, excercise and work on removing them just like 85% of the US

population. I realize although the initial weight *fell off* it's not

always going to be easy in getting off pounds. Haven't we always known

in any weight loss attempt that the first weight falls off easy (b/c

alot is water weight) and the last 10-20# are always the hardest?

Anyway, just to let everyone know.... you will not be slammed in this

group for voicing YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. Just post in a manner

not threatening, non-accusatory and non-condesending when you are

citing your own personal feelings and experiences.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Jocelyn,

Let me state that the 18# I gained with the pregnancy did come back

off within 2 weeks of not trying. The weight I have gained is 10# from

fertility drugs (not counted in the 18 pregnancy pounds) and 10-15#

since starting to eat wintergreen lifesavers, pepsi and sweet tea.

I realize to lose weight now will entail stopping the lifesavers, and

switching to diet pepsi and slepnda sweetened tea, but until I am

*ready* to do that, I won't lose the weight. I don't blame my baby at

all for the weight. He doesn't hold his bottle to my head and make me

eat them by the handfuls...lol

anyway.... thanks for letting me clarify about my weight gain issue...

[Guest guest]

I've resisted dieting in the past since WLS, but am thinking more

along the lines of the lifestyle changes and STARTING an excercise

program. Sad thing is, running around after a 9 yr old with ADHD and a

17 month old who has just learned to RUN, doing laundry, dishes,

vacuuming and picking up toys, I feel like I've excercised ALL day! lol

[Guest guest]

-

I know you must be excited! With my first pregnancy I had only

gained 9 pounds at 20 weeks when he was stillborn. With my daughter

I tok lots of meds and bedrest and gain 80+ - and I only lost 20

before I was pregnant with my son a few years later. I would liek

to say that the meds helped me gain all the weight with my daughter,

but I don;t have all the answers. This will eb my first post op

pregnancy, and my goals are to be healthy, stay out of the hostpial

(I am high risk), eat well, drink water, and exercise as much as I

can. I woudl also like to get past 34 weeks, something I have never

done.

I hope that you have an uneventful last couple of weeks!

[Guest guest]

" running around after a 9 yr old with ADHD and a 17 month old who has

just learned to RUN, doing laundry, dishes, vacuuming and picking up

toys, I feel like I've excercised ALL day! "

LOL! Know what you mean! It reminds me of that Mc's commercial

where they show different exercises on tv all while mom is running

around doing her own version of pushups, stair stepping and

crunchies! Being a SAHM isn't always easy, but definately worth it.

[Guest guest]

As another moderator here, Jocelyn didn't slam anyone. What she said was:

>So,

> in response to the original post if you will be miserable if you

cannot fit

> into your size 10 jeans after pregnancy, think about it long and

>hard.

There is nothing wrong with what she said. Rather there are no guarantees

after this surgery. You may lose weight easily but you also may keep the

weight you gain during pregnancy and not be able to get down to that magic

size. I agree wholeheartedly with what Jocelyn said. It is a point that you

need to consider. If being a size 10 is what makes you happy then you need

to consider what getting pregnant would do to you because there is no

guarantees that the size you are before pregnancy will be the size you are

afterwards. If you are looking for guarantees there are none. I was 162

prepregnancy. Now I am approximately 172-175. I am a solid size 14 and

couldn't be happier. Having my daughter was worth the extra 13 pounds.

mailto: dferguson@...

BTC, Columbus, 10/7/98

[Guest guest]

Re: " LOL! Know what you mean! It reminds me of that Mc's

commercial where they show different exercises on tv all while mom is

running around doing her own version of pushups, stair stepping and

crunchies! Being a SAHM isn't always easy, but definately worth it.

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I haven't even seen the Mcs commercial! Does that tell you how

busy I am??? lol