Re: Auditory Discrimination

[Guest guest]

My brother used Tomatis therapy for his autistic son. Although they

thought it helped, the cost was too much for them to continue. This

is the facility he used, the site lists more facilities around the

world:

http://www.tomatis.com/English/Addresses/United_States/the_davis_cente

r.htm

I think if you can find a hospital that uses similar techniques (i.e.

sound therapy), I'd look into getting insurance coverage for that.

Did you ask the neuropsychologists what they recommend?

Take care,

RH

> Can anyone tell me what significantly abnormal

> auditory discrimination impacts and/or what type of

> treatm,etn options can be tried?

>

> had comprehensive neuropsych studies

> completed. The findings were discouraging. One of

> the studies demonstrated a marked problem with what

> the neuropsychologist called auditory discrimination.

> In the past did have CAPD issues which we

> addressed using an FM system.

>

> Beyond that, she is showing a marked change in the

> function of the right side of her body, ie problems

> stemming from the left side of her brain. She is

> right dominant.

>

> Joanne Kocourek (mom to , lies, and )

> visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris

[Guest guest]

Joanne

Auditory discrim is treated alot like CAPD. She probably has a hard

time sorting out background from foreground noise. I have had students

who wore digital hearing aids programmed to eliminate background

noise, but have had no personal experience with this. It might be

helpful for her to start learning some lip reading as speech is the

foreground noise that she usually needs to be hearing. I have used

some exercises with young children where I say three words (sometimes

all are the same, sometimes two and sometimes they are all different).

They have to listen and tell me if they are the same or different. The

words are similar in different ways (example: car,car,bar or bed,bad,

bed). The idea is to change the initial, medial and final sounds in

different ones. It just helps them to learn to key in to sound

differences.

laurie

> Can anyone tell me what significantly abnormal

> auditory discrimination impacts and/or what type of

> treatm,etn options can be tried?

>

> had comprehensive neuropsych studies

> completed. The findings were discouraging. One of

> the studies demonstrated a marked problem with what

> the neuropsychologist called auditory discrimination.

> In the past did have CAPD issues which we

> addressed using an FM system.

>

> Beyond that, she is showing a marked change in the

> function of the right side of her body, ie problems

> stemming from the left side of her brain. She is

> right dominant.

>

> Joanne Kocourek (mom to , lies, and )

> visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris

>

>

>

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RH

That system is used for autistic children, but addresses sound

sensitivity more than discrimination. One of the drawbacks is that the

person can never use ear phones for anything after the treatments. I

have had students who went through the training as well as the mother

of one of the students who had some issues due to a obsessive

compulsive disorder. My son has some CDs that he can use at home that

helps him with his sound sensitivity for a few weeks and then has to

be repeated.

laurie

> My brother used Tomatis therapy for his autistic son. Although they

> thought it helped, the cost was too much for them to continue. This

> is the facility he used, the site lists more facilities around the

> world:

>

> http://www.tomatis.com/English/Addresses/United_States/the_davis_cente

> r.htm

>

> I think if you can find a hospital that uses similar techniques (i.e.

> sound therapy), I'd look into getting insurance coverage for that.

> Did you ask the neuropsychologists what they recommend?

>

> Take care,

> RH

>

>

> > Can anyone tell me what significantly abnormal

> > auditory discrimination impacts and/or what type of

> > treatm,etn options can be tried?

> >

> > had comprehensive neuropsych studies

> > completed. The findings were discouraging. One of

> > the studies demonstrated a marked problem with what

> > the neuropsychologist called auditory discrimination.

> > In the past did have CAPD issues which we

> > addressed using an FM system.

> >

> > Beyond that, she is showing a marked change in the

> > function of the right side of her body, ie problems

> > stemming from the left side of her brain. She is

> > right dominant.

> >

> > Joanne Kocourek (mom to , lies, and )

> > visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

Where would I go to find someone who could help teach

lip reading? When was much younger she used

to " read lips " but it is a skill she hasn't used in

quite some time. She has CAPD and we have an FM

system, but she is still missing alot.

When I receive the formal report I will have to share

it with ENT. She just saw him and had a " normal "

audiogram. In the past those have fluctuated between

normal and abnormal. Right now I'm glad Brooklyn has

some alert dog skills. I'm beginning to suspect she

will need to use them more over time.

--- Laurie Fitzgerald laurie.fitzgerald@...>

wrote:

> Joanne

>

> Auditory discrim is treated alot like CAPD. She

> probably has a hard

> time sorting out background from foreground noise. I

> have had students

>

Joanne Kocourek (mom to , lies, and )

visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris

[Guest guest]

Joanne

The school district should have a consultant for the hearing impaired

who could teach her or get you directed in the correct direction. Then

ENT or audiologist might also know. I learned enough for myself from

turning the sound off on the TV and trying to figure out what was

being said. She might also want to turn the closed captioning on when

watching TV to get use to that skill. I still can't read and watch the

action at the same time and it is tiring, so I don't use it much. I

have a hearing loss, so have aids, but don't wear them as much as I

should. I am just trying to develop the ability in case my hearing

goes completely.

If 's aud. discrim. problem is brain related (it sounds like it

might be), then she will have to learn other skills rather than to

expect to improve the discrim. very much.

Good luke,

laurie

> Laurie,

>

> Where would I go to find someone who could help teach

> lip reading? When was much younger she used

> to " read lips " but it is a skill she hasn't used in

> quite some time. She has CAPD and we have an FM

> system, but she is still missing alot.

>

> When I receive the formal report I will have to share

> it with ENT. She just saw him and had a " normal "

> audiogram. In the past those have fluctuated between

> normal and abnormal. Right now I'm glad Brooklyn has

> some alert dog skills. I'm beginning to suspect she

> will need to use them more over time.

>

> --- Laurie Fitzgerald laurie.fitzgerald@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Joanne

> >

> > Auditory discrim is treated alot like CAPD. She

> > probably has a hard

> > time sorting out background from foreground noise. I

> > have had students

> >

>

> Joanne Kocourek (mom to , lies, and )

> visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris

>

>

>

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physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure what you mean about never being able to use ear phones

afterwards - my nephew uses them all the time (they have a portable

DVD player to help interest him in the car or at airports). I'm sure

each provider has their own recommendations.

We were told that in addition to addressing sound sensitivity, it

would make him more aware of sounds in different ranges, that he was

missing hearing some speech because he couldn't hear certain tones

well.

Take care,

RH

> > > Can anyone tell me what significantly abnormal

> > > auditory discrimination impacts and/or what type of

> > > treatm,etn options can be tried?

> > >

> > > had comprehensive neuropsych studies

> > > completed. The findings were discouraging. One of

> > > the studies demonstrated a marked problem with what

> > > the neuropsychologist called auditory discrimination.

> > > In the past did have CAPD issues which we

> > > addressed using an FM system.

> > >

> > > Beyond that, she is showing a marked change in the

> > > function of the right side of her body, ie problems

> > > stemming from the left side of her brain. She is

> > > right dominant.

> > >

> > > Joanne Kocourek (mom to , lies, and )

> > > visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators.

The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content.

List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the

content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding

changes in their own treatment.

> >

> > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who

sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the

severity of the attack.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Luarie,

is home schooled. Our district refused almost

all services even with an attorney. We have an FM

system because the district refused to allow her to

use theirs as a home bound student with a tutor!! I

will try the closed captioning. Hopefully the

neuropsych report will have other suggestions as well.

Our insurance has also denied therapies.

> The school district should have a consultant for the

> hearing impaired who could teach her or get you

Then

> ENT or audiologist might also know. I learned enough

> for myself from turning the sound off on the TV and

trying to figure out what was being said.

Her problems are definitely brain related. I hadn't

realized how much more brain involvement she acquired

over the past year. Too much else going on.

Joanne Kocourek (mom to , lies, and )

visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris

[Guest guest]

Has your daughter had an auditory evoked potential test?

Regarding denials and lack of help from schools and insurance, do you

have an advocate?

Take care,

RH

> Hi Luarie,

>

> is home schooled. Our district refused almost

> all services even with an attorney. We have an FM

> system because the district refused to allow her to

> use theirs as a home bound student with a tutor!! I

> will try the closed captioning. Hopefully the

> neuropsych report will have other suggestions as well.

> Our insurance has also denied therapies.

>

> > The school district should have a consultant for the

> > hearing impaired who could teach her or get you

> Then

> > ENT or audiologist might also know. I learned enough

> > for myself from turning the sound off on the TV and

> trying to figure out what was being said.

>

> Her problems are definitely brain related. I hadn't

> realized how much more brain involvement she acquired

> over the past year. Too much else going on.

>

> Joanne Kocourek (mom to , lies, and )

> visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris

[Guest guest]

She hasn't had evoked potential studies since she was

very young. To reduce the stress in our lives we now

home school (much better for the girls and far more

successful academically). We di have an aattorney

helping us in a major battle against BCBSIL.

will reach her life tiem max this winter and will then

be straight Title 19.

I'm hoping our ENT will help as soon as I receive the

formal written report.

> Has your daughter had an auditory evoked potential

> test?

> Regarding denials and lack of help from schools and

> insurance, do you have an advocate?

Joanne Kocourek (mom to , lies, and )

visit us at: http://www.caringbridge.org/il/annakris