Re: Drinking with meals...not a good idea

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le, you are right. I just can't get food to go down other wise. Sorry

IM in a really naughty mood today.

Trisha

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In a message dated 07/06/2000 11:17:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

brisajama@... writes:

<< I really don't think I am a poor example! I am really working hard

at this and if I need a few sips of something to wash food down so I

don't choke I can't see how I defeating everything I have put into

this. >>

Jackie,

With all due respect, eating with meals does defeat the purpose. I did not

specifically name you as a poor example, as I don't know you or your dining

habits. However, you have identified yourself as one drinks with meals. Not

all post op feel as strongly as I do. But, I personally feel obligated to set

a good example to demonstrate to the pre ops that this CAN be done. Most

people can eat SUBSTANTIALLY more while drinking. I can't explain it any

better than I did in my previous post. When instructions are given by Dr

Rutledge, they are given with a specific purpose in mind. We are all adults

with free will and may choose to consciously disobey, but it is NOT to our

benefit. My advice is to get pre-ops off on the RIGHT foot, not change the

behavior of those who choose to disregard instructions. But, I still STRONGLY

ENCOURAGE pre-ops to TRY as hard as you can to comply with your post

operative directives. Looking for shortcuts and deviating from the rules only

cheats you...if not in the short run, most definitely in the long run.

le

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le,

I agree with you 200%!!!!!!!!! If I am going to go through surgery

because I can't do it on my own, then I am going to do exactly as my surgeon

tells me to. If I am going to praise him for being the expert where this

surgery is concerned, then why would I want to think I am the expert when it

comes to not following the post-op orders (do not drink while eating). He

would not give them to us if it didn't make a difference, wouldn't you agree?

This is my thoughts on the subject of drinking with meals. As for me and

my body, we will follow the doctor's orders to a tee! :-)

in SC

Pre-op

386 lbs.

Waiting on ins. approval

If you see someone without a smile,

Give them one of yours.

If you and I should meet and

you forget me, you have lost nothing.

If you meet JESUS and you forget him,

you will have lost everything.

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le:

I really don't think I am a poor example! I am really working hard

at this and if I need a few sips of something to wash food down so I

don't choke I can't see how I defeating everything I have put into

this.

Jackie in DE

>

>

>

> Debbie,

>

> I DON'T drink with meals...four reasons: 1.) Dr R said not to, 2.)

You will

> vomit, 3.) This is a " sham feeding " , which means you can eat more

because the

> liquid increases the rate at which food leaves from the stomach,

4.) Dr R

> said not to. Pre- ops, please don't try to figure out how you

can " beat " the

> surgery. Not following the program only hurt you in terms of

slow/no weight

> loss. Some post ops are very poor examples. Please don't try to do

what they

> do. You have gone through a lot with the insurance companies to

have this

> surgery. Please don't mess it up with non compliance.

>

> le

> five weeks post op

[Guest guest]

Yea, I sip a little too during a meal. Seems to make the food taste

better.

a

Jackie McQuaide wrote:

>

> le:

> I really don't think I am a poor example! I am really working hard

> at this and if I need a few sips of something to wash food down so I

> don't choke I can't see how I defeating everything I have put into

> this.

> Jackie in DE

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Debbie,

> >

> > I DON'T drink with meals...four reasons: 1.) Dr R said not to, 2.)

> You will

> > vomit, 3.) This is a " sham feeding " , which means you can eat more

> because the

> > liquid increases the rate at which food leaves from the stomach,

> 4.) Dr R

> > said not to. Pre- ops, please don't try to figure out how you

> can " beat " the

> > surgery. Not following the program only hurt you in terms of

> slow/no weight

> > loss. Some post ops are very poor examples. Please don't try to do

> what they

> > do. You have gone through a lot with the insurance companies to

> have this

> > surgery. Please don't mess it up with non compliance.

> >

> > le

> > five weeks post op

>

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le:

I have identified myself as one who takes a few sips with meals. And

you know what I am doing just great. Furthermore, I do try not to

drink with meals only because you eat LESS not more when you drink

with meals. Dr. R told me this and have found it to be true. The

liquids take up room which should be alloted for food. You are right

you don't know me or how well I have or have not followed my surgeons

instructions but I think you should try to be a little less

condescending.

Jackie in DE (who must be doing something right)

5/24/00

-31 pounds as of 7/4/00

> In a message dated 07/06/2000 11:17:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

> brisajama@a... writes:

>

> << I really don't think I am a poor example! I am really working

hard

> at this and if I need a few sips of something to wash food down so

I

> don't choke I can't see how I defeating everything I have put into

> this. >>

>

> Jackie,

>

> With all due respect, eating with meals does defeat the purpose. I

did not

> specifically name you as a poor example, as I don't know you or

your dining

> habits. However, you have identified yourself as one drinks with

meals. Not

> all post op feel as strongly as I do. But, I personally feel

obligated to set

> a good example to demonstrate to the pre ops that this CAN be

done. Most

> people can eat SUBSTANTIALLY more while drinking. I can't explain

it any

> better than I did in my previous post. When instructions are given

by Dr

> Rutledge, they are given with a specific purpose in mind. We are

all adults

> with free will and may choose to consciously disobey, but it is NOT

to our

> benefit. My advice is to get pre-ops off on the RIGHT foot, not

change the

> behavior of those who choose to disregard instructions. But, I

still STRONGLY

> ENCOURAGE pre-ops to TRY as hard as you can to comply with your

post

> operative directives. Looking for shortcuts and deviating from the

rules only

> cheats you...if not in the short run, most definitely in the long

run.

>

> le

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le,

Not eating with meals is a new challenge. After many, many years of dieting we

have all been trained to drink to " fill us up " before and during meals. After

surgery we have to change that behavior and it is difficult. I take juice and

gatorade to work with me for during the day. But I do not take them with me at

lunch time. I try to space my eating and drinking times. Now that I am no

longer taking Carafate it is easier.

Darlene

Goofygrits@... wrote:

> le,

> I agree with you 200%!!!!!!!!! If I am going to go through surgery

> because I can't do it on my own, then I am going to do exactly as my surgeon

> tells me to. If I am going to praise him for being the expert where this

> surgery is concerned, then why would I want to think I am the expert when it

> comes to not following the post-op orders (do not drink while eating). He

> would not give them to us if it didn't make a difference, wouldn't you agree?

> This is my thoughts on the subject of drinking with meals. As for me and

> my body, we will follow the doctor's orders to a tee! :-)

> in SC

> Pre-op

> 386 lbs.

> Waiting on ins. approval

>

> If you see someone without a smile,

> Give them one of yours.

>

> If you and I should meet and

> you forget me, you have lost nothing.

>

> If you meet JESUS and you forget him,

> you will have lost everything.

>

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Jackie,

I agree with you. You definately are not a " poor example " . We

simply are here to give pre and post ops our experiences. We all are

working hard at this and what works for one doesn't necessarily work

for another. I, for one have never vomited and have felt that maybe

those that do are eating wrong. However, I know that isn't

necessarily true either... again, everyone's experience is

different. Keep up the good work Jackie.

Jane McShane

MGB 3/20/00

250 / 200

> >

> >

> >

> > Debbie,

> >

> > I DON'T drink with meals...four reasons: 1.) Dr R said not to,

2.)

> You will

> > vomit, 3.) This is a " sham feeding " , which means you can eat more

> because the

> > liquid increases the rate at which food leaves from the stomach,

> 4.) Dr R

> > said not to. Pre- ops, please don't try to figure out how you

> can " beat " the

> > surgery. Not following the program only hurt you in terms of

> slow/no weight

> > loss. Some post ops are very poor examples. Please don't try to

do

> what they

> > do. You have gone through a lot with the insurance companies to

> have this

> > surgery. Please don't mess it up with non compliance.

> >

> > le

> > five weeks post op

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In a message dated 07/06/2000 9:02:14 PM Central Daylight Time,

McJaneygrl@... writes:

<< I, for one have never vomited and have felt that maybe

those that do are eating wrong. However, I know that isn't

necessarily true either... again, everyone's experience is

different. >>

Perhaps both are true. Some people do vomit from eating the wrong things.

Some vomit for any reason. I vomited in the hospital on a sip of broth and

three jello cubes.

le

who still believes in following protocol...six weeks post op