Re: Re: Biofilm/Why can have honey and fruit on SCD despite the yeast?.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the biofilm info, very interesting! Looking further into it...my

husband can hardly stand it with all the research I do! I can't help it! Well

this is good news! She loves her KiKi cupcakes and honey! Still having to

cook everything though for her...with of course, the exception of the

BANANA...she has always been Dr. Haas's Banana BABY! All of us miss candy!

Look forward to making some SCD safe kind now! Thought it wouldn't be good with

all the yeasty beasties!

Antoinette (SCD day 32 entire family)

Why can have honey and fruit on SCD despite the

yeast?.

Why can have honey and fruit on SCD despite the yeast?.

There are two reasons for this.

1)Honey has predigested sugars which are most likely to cross the

intestinal absorptive surface into the blood steam and thereby be

inaccessible for intestinal yeast and bacteria.(From Elaine)

2)The yeast lives in a biofilm inside our intestines.Biofilms are

comprised of a primary layer of bacteria that provide an attractive

environment for other bacteria and larger organisms

The yeast cannot flourish in our gut without the other gut pathogens

If we cut down on the other gut pathogens with SCD then the yeast

cannot do well.

Below are excerpts from this website:

http://www.mdsg.umd.edu/Education/biofilm/intro.htm#intro<http://www.mdsgumd.edu\

/Education/biofilm/intro.htm#intro>

What Are Biofilm Communities? Biofilms are a hot topic in

microbiology today. Scientists are studying the ways bacterial

colonies form these slimey layers, which can be resistant to

antiobiotics and the immune system, in hopes that new information

will help us understand how the layers form, adhere to surfaces, and

how they can be prevented.

Biofilms moved to the forefront of microbiology after a 1994 case

that involved the infection of hundreds of asthmatics. It was found

that all the asthmatics used the same inhalant contaminated with a

bacterium known as Pseudomonas aeruginosa. This bacterium was able

to survive the routine disinfection of the inhalant during

manufacturing by forming a biofilm comprised of many colonies. The

contaminated inhalers contained pieces of the biofilm which were

transported directly to the lung tissue by the asthmatics. In the

lung tissue the Pseudomonas biofilm was able to flourish. One

hundred people died from the biofilm infection, a dramatic example

of the danger posed by some bacterial biofilms.

Biofilms can be found in many areas of the human body and the

environment. Teeth, intestines, medical devices, contact lenses,

drainage pipes, and the bottoms of ships. The common demoniator is

all the biofilms are comprised of a primary layer of bacteria that

provide an attractive environment for other bacteria and larger

organisms. Biofilms found on the hull of a ship consist of large

organisms like barnacles, mussels, and host of other zooplankton and

phytoplankton. These biofilms slow a ship and are expensive to

remove and prevent. Current methods to prevent biofilm formation on

ships include a wide variety of toxic marine paints. However, these

paints tend to wear off and biofilms which are resistant form on

them without regard to the toxins.

More on biofilms

http://www.uib.no/ums/magazine/teaching/Biofilm/biolfilm.htm<http://www.uib.no/u\

ms/magazine/teaching/Biofilm/biolfilm.htm>

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/j/e/jel5/biofilms/primer.html<http://www.per\

sonal.psu.edu/faculty/j/e/jel5/biofilms/primer.html>

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Elaine's comments about honey:

For those who are terribly worried about honey, I would say, " start

very slowly " and try it out.

Love

Elaine

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WHY COOKED FRUITS CAN BE EATEN IF A CHILD HAS YEAST

Elaine Gottschall wrote:

If there is an overgrowth of yeast in the bowel, the fruit sugars

should not be feeding them, especially if the fruits are cooked. It

is only the sugars and starches that are not broken down and

absorbed which get to the lower bowel to feed the microbes (yeast

and bacteria). The sugars in fruit are contained within a cell

surrounded by a " fence " cell wall of cellulose which is rigid. When

they are given raw, often the milking action of the small intestine

cannot sufficiently milk out the sugars because of the rigid cell

wall and they are passed on to the lower bowel to feed microbes.

By softening the cell wall with cooking, we will avoid this. I have

seen too many children recover with a balanced diet with the

valuable nutrients of fruits to outlaw fruits.

If you want to experiment, fine. I find I must prioritize each step

of the way and to give up fruit because of the fruit sugar does not

sit well with me because of what I have said above.

Furthermore, the gurues who suggest this often allow grains which

are so bad because the starch is all sugar which is unlikely to be

broken down and absorbed and will feed and overfeed the lower bowel

microbes.

INTRODUCING FRUIT

From Two Posts by Sheila:

If you decide to try fruit you should start with cooked, peeled,

deseeded fruit like homemade applesauce or pear sauce. Ripe bananas

(lots of spots on the peel) are also good to start with. When she is

handling that okay then try peeled raw fruit like apple. The most

important thing is to go slow adding new things so you can judge if

she tolerates them well and also in case she does have a reaction

that it won't take to long to rebound from setbacks.

Sheila, SCD 25 mos, UC 20 yrs

This may sound a bit weird but since doesn't tolerate any

seeds yet if I am going to give him strawberries I actually cut off

the seeds on the outside and then slice up the rest. I have also

been known to peel grapes for him. He does okay with raw apple but

only if I peel that also. Raw pineapple goes right through but legal

canned pineapple seems okay.

Sheila

[Every child is different,observe your child carefully,there might

be a small subgroup of children who cannot tolerate the honey and

fruit at the early stage of the diet.]

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HTH,

Mimi

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>