Ella has an Ear Infection. Recommendations for Pain?

March 24, 2006

Rats! After comeing back from pre-school Ella was crying in pain and

pulling on her ear. We went to the Dr. Since it is Friday and

explained to him about Ella's SCDiet. We picked up some Anti-biotics

just in case but really don't want to use them given her great progress

over the last several months.

We are giveing her Oregon's Wild Harvest Children's formula Ear Drops

which contain Fresh Oranic Garlic bulb, Fresh St. 's Wort Flower

buds and Mullein flouwers in a base of organice unrefined olive oil,

natural vitamin E oil and grapefruit seed extract.

Ear infections are painful and I'm wondering what would be a good way

of reducing the pain and keeping her calm? Thanks for any suggestions.

Brent Father Ella Crohns 4yrs old SCD 5months.

March 24, 2006

Hi Brent...poor Ella. I'm not sure if you are open to using

homeopathic remedies, but homeopathic Belladonna, Chamomilla and

Pulsatilla are all indicated for painful earaches. You would want a

30ch strength, and give it every 3 to 6 hours for 2 or 3 days, until

symptoms subside. This combined with what you are doing should help.

There is a product called Rescue Remedy, that can be calming for most

kids, but it won't address the pain. You obviously have a health food

store available to you, since you are using the ear drops, and they

should be able to direct you further. I remember years ago, before i

gave up dairy, i had horrible ear infections and heat could sometimes

help, usually lying on a heat source....the counter pressure seems to

help with the pain as well. Good luck! cindy

March 24, 2006

Hi, first i wanted to thank you for all your advice earlier!!! Thank

you for taking the time. I wanted to say thatI used to get chronic ear

infections and I mean all the time!!!This was only after I started

seeing symptoms of the UC, maybe it has to do with the immune system

problems in uc/chrons- i don't know. I keep water out of my ears with

ear plugs when i am in the shower and i don't have problems now. I

know this doesn't help right now with Ella, but personally I used to

sit in super hot baths, keeping water out of the ear of course...i

know this sounds crazy, but something was soothing with the steam, or

maybe it just took my mind off it, don't know.

Hope she gets better soon!!!

candice uc since 99/scd 1 wk

March 24, 2006

For pain, I think Tylenol is the choice for non-ASD kids.

Is there a compounding pharmacy in your area? I would take the

prescription there to have it filled with NO illegals. Also, I would

have the Tylenol compounded there as well. That way you won't be

giving her illegals.

Some S. Boulardii and extra yogurt would be good too to keep the yeast

and pathogenic bacteria at bay if you end up needing to use the

antibiotics.

With 's last ear infection, our doctor did not treat it, but

had us use Lauricidin. It went away without antibiotics.

I don't know how quickly you could get the Lauricidin though.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

March 24, 2006

Is Lauricidin a presription med.or a supplement? Jenn & K

Re: Ella has an Ear Infection. Recommendations for

Pain?

> For pain, I think Tylenol is the choice for non-ASD kids.

>

> Is there a compounding pharmacy in your area? I would take the

> prescription there to have it filled with NO illegals. Also, I would

> have the Tylenol compounded there as well. That way you won't be

> giving her illegals.

>

> Some S. Boulardii and extra yogurt would be good too to keep the yeast

> and pathogenic bacteria at bay if you end up needing to use the

> antibiotics.

>

> With 's last ear infection, our doctor did not treat it, but

> had us use Lauricidin. It went away without antibiotics.

>

> I don't know how quickly you could get the Lauricidin though.

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

March 24, 2006

The ear drops seem to be relieveing much of the pain from earlier or

she's exhausted her poor self. Thank you I will look into this

further. I certainly don't want to go the anti biotic route.

Brent

>

> Hi Brent...poor Ella. I'm not sure if you are open to using

> homeopathic remedies, but homeopathic Belladonna, Chamomilla and

> Pulsatilla are all indicated for painful earaches. You would want a

> 30ch strength, and give it every 3 to 6 hours for 2 or 3 days, until

> symptoms subside. This combined with what you are doing should

help.

> There is a product called Rescue Remedy, that can be calming for most

> kids, but it won't address the pain. You obviously have a health

food

> store available to you, since you are using the ear drops, and they

> should be able to direct you further. I remember years ago, before i

> gave up dairy, i had horrible ear infections and heat could sometimes

> help, usually lying on a heat source....the counter pressure seems to

> help with the pain as well. Good luck! cindy

>

March 24, 2006

THank you Jody! I may get some of this made up for future use . The

drops seem to be working well.

Brent

>

> For pain, I think Tylenol is the choice for non-ASD kids.

>

> Is there a compounding pharmacy in your area? I would take the

> prescription there to have it filled with NO illegals. Also, I

would

> have the Tylenol compounded there as well. That way you won't be

> giving her illegals.

>

> Some S. Boulardii and extra yogurt would be good too to keep the

yeast

> and pathogenic bacteria at bay if you end up needing to use the

> antibiotics.

>

> With 's last ear infection, our doctor did not treat it, but

> had us use Lauricidin. It went away without antibiotics.

>

> I don't know how quickly you could get the Lauricidin though.

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

March 25, 2006

Just one mom talking to another....I think I may be jumping in late in the ear

conversation...but thought I would add. Our son had countless ear

infections....until we took all dairy out of his diet. I have discovered that

many children with ear infections (pediatrician told us) have an allergy or

intolerance to dairy! That the two are very CLOSELY related (scary in light of

too many doctors thinking that it is just part of childhood, when it doesn't

have to be this way!). Food allergy/sensitivity of any kind can cause ear

infections in our little people. Especially when it causes high secretions of

mucous/not only in the Eustachian tubes (ears, which make environment for

infection to grow). Also this same mucous is increased at the same time in our

guts, causing malabsorption (Elaine even made this mucous connection in our

guts.) Food for thought.

Warm Regards, Antoinette (Day 33 entire family SCD/Celiac, neurological probs

related to leaky gut, and many sensitivities and allergies),

Re: Ella has an Ear Infection. Recommendations for Pain?

THank you Jody! I may get some of this made up for future use . The

drops seem to be working well.

Brent

>

> For pain, I think Tylenol is the choice for non-ASD kids.

>

> Is there a compounding pharmacy in your area? I would take the

> prescription there to have it filled with NO illegals. Also, I

would

> have the Tylenol compounded there as well. That way you won't be

> giving her illegals.

>

> Some S. Boulardii and extra yogurt would be good too to keep the

yeast

> and pathogenic bacteria at bay if you end up needing to use the

> antibiotics.

>

> With 's last ear infection, our doctor did not treat it, but

> had us use Lauricidin. It went away without antibiotics.

>

> I don't know how quickly you could get the Lauricidin though.

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

March 25, 2006

Lauricidin is not prescription.

It can be ordered on the internet.

I believe it's:

http://www.lauricidin.com

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

March 25, 2006

This stuff is GREAT! Other sources of monolaurin are NOT the same.

This is the only brand recommended by Dr. McCandless for kids with

viral issues.

Taking it can be a bit of a challenge for little ones though. It comes

in tiny little waxy pellets with a soapy taste. You do NOT want to

chew them. Best bet is to mix it in a puree or pearsauce and hope they

swallow without chewing. We did this for 3 days with Tom, but he was

doing so well with them that we just started giving him the plain

pellets in his hand. I have to brag- he swallows them down neat! We

call them " magic medicine pellets " . This kid loves to take his

medicine. Go figure ...

You may have a resurgence of viral activity and feel poorly for the

first few days of taking them. Start with a small dose and increase

over a week to full dose. I felt a little achy and headachy, but felt

much better after that was over.

Suzanne

>

> Lauricidin is not prescription.

> It can be ordered on the internet.

>

> I believe it's:

> http://www.lauricidin.com

March 25, 2006

Lauricidin is an antifungal, antibacterial , antiviral supplement. Our MD told

us to use it insted of valtrex.

Agape,

Jim and Jen wrote:

Is Lauricidin a presription med.or a supplement? Jenn & K

Re: Ella has an Ear Infection. Recommendations for

Pain?

> For pain, I think Tylenol is the choice for non-ASD kids.

>

> Is there a compounding pharmacy in your area? I would take the

> prescription there to have it filled with NO illegals. Also, I would

> have the Tylenol compounded there as well. That way you won't be

> giving her illegals.

>

> Some S. Boulardii and extra yogurt would be good too to keep the yeast

> and pathogenic bacteria at bay if you end up needing to use the

> antibiotics.

>

> With 's last ear infection, our doctor did not treat it, but

> had us use Lauricidin. It went away without antibiotics.

>

> I don't know how quickly you could get the Lauricidin though.

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

March 25, 2006

She fell asleep on the way back from the Doctor's office around 3pm and

pretty much slept most the the afternoon and night.

We gaver her ear drops from Oregon Harvest recommened by Gertrude

Snicklegrove (Summer) at 3pm then again at 10pm and once more this

morning. The pain was gone. She still sniffling and has a bit of a

cough.

I'm totally suprised the night wasn't one from Heck! She was up

drinking juice/water mix and going pee. Her poop this am was a

trophy! And she's been eating pancakes, hamburger, pearsauce,

juice/water and her vitamin.

So happy now and thankful for all the suggestions here just in case the

pain returned.

Brent Father Ella 4yrs old Crohns. SCD 5 months

-- In pecanbread , " Jim and Jen " wrote:

>

> So, what exactly did you do for her so that she was able to feel

better so

> fast? Jenn & K

> Re: Ella has an Ear Infection. Recommendations

for

> Pain?

>

March 25, 2006

Probably so! Seems to be powerful stuff. Glad she doesn't have to

take anti-biotics. Whew!

> So, what exactly did you do for her so that she was able to feel

better so

>

March 25, 2006

Dr. Natasha -McBride's book " Gut and Psychology Syndrome " has a

great chapter on ear infections and especially treating them without

antibiotics, including info on keeping your child comfortable. Dr. Natasha

uses SCD with her patients. Book at www.behealthy.org.uk

Warm compresses on the ear help. Also, there are prescription ear drops

that numb the ear to control pain. Ask your doc or pharmacist if

interested.

Kayla

>

March 26, 2006

I also use Belladona,

I would give 5 pellots of 30 ch belladona every 15 minutes for until the

symptoms subside. Quite often you can see a difference in 3 doses like

this. I have never had to give my kids more then 4 15 minutes a part.

After that I would continue with 5 pellots every 4 hours.

I also like the olive oil and garlic oil you can buy in the health food

store.

Laurie