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Judi,

Will you send me this information to my e-mail???? delliott@....

Thanks,

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> What I forwarded to the group was maps of Dr's Ofc,

> Hospital,and all hotels/motels with name address and

> phone number and how many miles from the hospital/

> Dr ofc. May have to open in Word orWorkpad or equil.

> Others(maps) will open in Corel I believe. I went

> to Yahoo Yellow Pages for Info.

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Hi everyone...I have been working on my packet and was unsure about a few

things..the first being how do I document contacts and what is Dr. R looking

for regarding contacts....thanks Kendra waiting for ins approval

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In a message dated 07/18/2000 1:04:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

NY_karen@... writes:

<< hello all I am new to this list. I have been reading up on the WLS

and my options. I Live in upstate NY and have chosen to consult with

Dr. Rutledge and pursue WLS with him. I would like to talk to any of

you that have had the surgery and discuss your feelings on it, the

hospital and Dr. R himself.

I look forward to any experiences that you care to share.

Thanks you

>>

Dear ,

Welcome to a one of a kind list! You will be so happy you found us! I

haven't had the surgery yet. My big day is July 26th. If I can help in Any

way please E-mail me !! MCypher31@... Good Luck xoxox Margie Sc

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Hi everyone...went to see my endocinologist today fro a follow up and going

in my spirits were high because i found out today I was approved by my

insurance for the surgery...but when I came out I was very down...I dicussed

the MGB with her...she was all negative...saying that long-term success was

not there that my stomach would just stretch and I would regain all my weight

and why put yourself through major surgery and the risk of complications like

small bowel perforation...she suggested that I get a personal trainer(I

wanted to laugh-and ask her if she was going to pay for that) and to get on a

diet with the exercise...low and behold I explained to her, which she already

knows, I have been on every diet in the book with all failures...so here I am

thinking my approval from my insurance was a sign from the good Lord that it

was meant for me to have this...and now this happens. So I am on the hunt

for a doc who will support me in this long battle with my weight. I guess I

will just have to pray about it and hope the good Lord lets me know if this

is the right decision or not. Thanks for all the open ears and

understanding...Kendra

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> Hi everyone...went to see my endocinologist today fro a follow up

and going

> in my spirits were high because i found out today I was approved by

my

> Insurance for the surgery...but when I came out I was very down...I

discussed

> The MGB with her...she was all-negative...>

Karla, My internist had the same reaction even told me horror stories

of what she had seen blah blah blah. I went away upset because Dr. R

wants you to have at least a three-month relationship with your PCP.

{At least that's what I remember reading} I continued my

researched

and when Dr. R's paper to the ASBS was posted to his site I copied it

along with facts about his success with diabetes. I then took my

husband along with me for moral support, and went to see her letting

her staff know that I needed a longer conference time with her. She

always tries to hurry you out. I just told her in a polite way that I

had researched the MGB thoroughly and decided to have the procedure I

showed her doc paper and other facts and gave her the letter from Dr.

Rutledge to your Physician and asked her if she would please write a

letter for me. She said yes, I have since received her letter and it

is a good one. Don't be discouraged be confident and persistent. When

I first told her that sometimes I just feel like the weight is

crushing me, all 100 pounds of her looked me in the eye and said I

know how you feel that's how I feel now. You see she was 5 months

pregnant with a cute little stomach sticking out. I wanted to slap

her in the face hard. They don't have a clue, but it is our life and

she should respect your opinion. Give it a try Karla it can't hurt.

By the way my husband didn't say a word the whole time but just

his presence showed her he was supportive of the MGB surgery.

My heart is with you!

Marjory Sumlin

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In a message dated 07/21/2000 10:37:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< I always have to put my anger into

action. I will scrub walls,pull weeds,beat rugs...hard! >>

Dear ,

It's kinda nice knowing someone else Cleans when they are

Angry! ROFLMAO I really thought my mom, my sister, and myself were the only

ones that did that!! he he I really do have a Clean House!! xoxox Margie Sc

July26th!!!

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In a message dated 7/21/2000 11:29:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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> Dear ,

> It's kinda nice knowing someone else Cleans when they

> are

> Angry! ROFLMAO I really thought my mom, my sister, and myself were the

only

> ones that did that!! he he I really do have a Clean House!! xoxox Margie

Sc

> July26th!!!

>

Next time any of you get really mad...come on over ok!~I'll have a mop

waiting..LOL!

Holly

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<< Next time any of you get really mad...come on over ok!~I'll have a mop

waiting..LOL!

Holly

>>

No Problemo!!

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Hey Guys,

You can add my name to that cleaning list too!!! I used to throw anything

that was within my reach but I got tired of replacing stuff. Now I clean

with a vengence. Much less violent!

Hugs and Blessings,

Rose

Pre-Op

Surgery Date

August 14th

Dr Shikora

Boston, MA

In My HANDS I Hold Today...

In My DREAMS I Hold Tomorrow...

In My FAITH I Hold Forever.

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Amy,

Your husbands junk? Oh my that is such a NO-NO!!! I've learned that no

matter how hard I tried or how conniving I thought I was, he always found

his junk and brought it back into the house.

I've since stopped trying to unmake his pack-rat-like ways and I've just

learned to live with it. Instead...I find ways to hide it, the less it

shows, the happier I am.

Hugs and Blessings,

Rose

Pre-Op

Surgery Date

August 14th

Dr Shikora

Boston, MA

In My HANDS I Hold Today...

In My DREAMS I Hold Tomorrow...

In My FAITH I Hold Forever.

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In a message dated 7/21/00 12:29:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

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<< How can I learn to do this? My house could really use it, and I would feel

SO MUCH BETTER! Anyone want to come clean and organize a whole house for

about a week? I would pay expenses. I need a bulldozer, and someone who

can be tough with my husband about getting rid of HIS junk!!!

Let me know...

Amy.

>>

You know, Amy, it is always more fun to clean someone else's house than your

own. Do you know what I do to make sure I clean? Invite company over all

the time! That " forces " me to do it! lol

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) ins letter re-re-sent 7/21

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In a message dated 7/21/00 12:38:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

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<<

Your husbands junk? Oh my that is such a NO-NO!!! I've learned that no

matter how hard I tried or how conniving I thought I was, he always found

his junk and brought it back into the house.

>>

lol! I recently donated several boxes of Tom's old clothes to charity and I

don't think he's even noticed yet! I figure if it hasn't been worn in over a

year, ya' don't need it. (Except for me of course--I have clothes all the

way from size 8-24!) This same theory applies to boxes in the basement. We

have numerous boxes with 4 or more moving tags on them, meaning we have just

schlepped them from one house to the next without even using! Supposed to be

one of my projects for the new millenium.... we'll see, lol!

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) ins letter re-re-sent 7/21

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In a message dated 07/21/2000 3:42:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< Gee, would all of you cleaning people come to my house - I hate to clean

no

matter what my mood!!! I'll do something to make you angry and you can just

clean, clean, clean!!! Joanne in Ohio

>>

LOL Joanne, I knew that would happen!! If I could I would do it, just to

laugh and have fun while I am doin it!! LOL marge

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How can I learn to do this? My house could really use it, and I would feel

SO MUCH BETTER! Anyone want to come clean and organize a whole house for

about a week? I would pay expenses. I need a bulldozer, and someone who

can be tough with my husband about getting rid of HIS junk!!!

Let me know...

Amy.

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Hey Guys,

You can add my name to that cleaning list too!!! I used to throw anything

that was within my reach but I got tired of replacing stuff. Now I clean

with a vengence. Much less violent!

Hugs and Blessings,

Rose

Pre-Op

Surgery Date

August 14th

Dr Shikora

Boston, MA

In My HANDS I Hold Today...

In My DREAMS I Hold Tomorrow...

In My FAITH I Hold Forever.

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Gee, would all of you cleaning people come to my house - I hate to clean no

matter what my mood!!! I'll do something to make you angry and you can just

clean, clean, clean!!! Joanne in Ohio

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> Hey Guys,

>

> You can add my name to that cleaning list too!!! I used to throw anything

> that was within my reach but I got tired of replacing stuff. Now I clean

> with a vengence. Much less violent!

>

> Hugs and Blessings,

> Rose

> Pre-Op

> Surgery Date

> August 14th

> Dr Shikora

> Boston, MA

>

> In My HANDS I Hold Today...

> In My DREAMS I Hold Tomorrow...

> In My FAITH I Hold Forever.

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>>I recently donated several boxes of Tom's old clothes

to charity and I don't think he's even noticed yet! <<

Debbie,

OMGawd...I tossed a purple shirt with huge sorta like pirate sleeves away

that belonged to my hubby more than 20 years ago...it was a horror to iron,

and he still brings that up and complains about it. Nope, I don't throw any

of his clothes away now unless they are too torn to repair, as in socks and

underwear. He's on his own if he wants his closet to be overstuffed, so be

it, I'm keeping my nose outta it.

Hugs and Blessings,

Rose

Pre-Op

Surgery Date

August 14th

Dr Shikora

Boston, MA

In My HANDS I Hold Today...

In My DREAMS I Hold Tomorrow...

In My FAITH I Hold Forever.

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Amy,

You are in luck. I have the answer for you. My son operates a bulldozer and my

daughter is superorganized. I told her she should do it for a living. It comes

so naturally to her that she thought I was kidding. I never thought about

making it a joint venture between the two of them though .LOL

Darlene

Amy Poe wrote:

> How can I learn to do this? My house could really use it, and I would feel

> SO MUCH BETTER! Anyone want to come clean and organize a whole house for

> about a week? I would pay expenses. I need a bulldozer, and someone who

> can be tough with my husband about getting rid of HIS junk!!!

>

> Let me know...

> Amy.

>

> Re:

>

> Hey Guys,

>

> You can add my name to that cleaning list too!!! I used to throw anything

> that was within my reach but I got tired of replacing stuff. Now I clean

> with a vengence. Much less violent!

>

> Hugs and Blessings,

> Rose

> Pre-Op

> Surgery Date

> August 14th

> Dr Shikora

> Boston, MA

>

> In My HANDS I Hold Today...

> In My DREAMS I Hold Tomorrow...

> In My FAITH I Hold Forever.

>

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In a message dated 7/21/00 4:59:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, hojo.lee@...

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<< Deb,

Does this mean that you are going to take another 1000 yrs to do it????

LOL

Joannie

>>

LOL I just might at the rate I'm going!!!

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) ins letter re-re-sent 7/21

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In a message dated 7/21/00 6:13:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

JULIE0630@... writes:

<< OMGawd...I tossed a purple shirt with huge sorta like pirate sleeves away

that belonged to my hubby more than 20 years ago...it was a horror to iron,

and he still brings that up and complains about it. Nope, I don't throw any

of his clothes away now unless they are too torn to repair, as in socks and

underwear. >>

LOL Tom is color blind, to boot, so a lot of times he'll say, " Didn't I have

a burgundy shirt that looked like that? " and I'll say, " Nope, you must be

thinking of the red one. " (I know I'm evil..) Actually, though, in my

defense most of what I got rid of was tshirts with various logos on front,

given to him by his suppliers. Many were duplicates, most never worn-- so

what's to miss?? LOL.

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) ins letter re-re-sent 7/21

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Deb,

Does this mean that you are going to take another 1000 yrs to do it????

LOL

Joannie

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> In a message dated 7/21/00 12:38:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> JULIE0630@... writes:

>

> <<

> Your husbands junk? Oh my that is such a NO-NO!!! I've learned that

> no

> matter how hard I tried or how conniving I thought I was, he always

> found

> his junk and brought it back into the house.

>

> >>

> lol! I recently donated several boxes of Tom's old clothes to charity

> and I

> don't think he's even noticed yet! I figure if it hasn't been worn in

> over a

> year, ya' don't need it. (Except for me of course--I have clothes all

> the

> way from size 8-24!) This same theory applies to boxes in the

> basement. We

> have numerous boxes with 4 or more moving tags on them, meaning we

> have just

> schlepped them from one house to the next without even using! Supposed

> to be

> one of my projects for the new millenium.... we'll see, lol!

>

> Regards,

> Debbie in IL

> Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

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GREAT! When can I expect them?

~Amy <needing a lot of help to organize her house...and her life!>

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> Hey Guys,

>

> You can add my name to that cleaning list too!!! I used to throw

anything

> that was within my reach but I got tired of replacing stuff. Now I clean

> with a vengence. Much less violent!

>

> Hugs and Blessings,

> Rose

> Pre-Op

> Surgery Date

> August 14th

> Dr Shikora

> Boston, MA

>

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> In My DREAMS I Hold Tomorrow...

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In a message dated 07/22/2000 11:40:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

valmaboyz@... writes:

<< WELL...surprise, surprise,

surprise! I actually FIT. I could sit in the seat. By the end of the game

I

was tired of it, and it was a close fit, but I did fit and my knees weren't

touching the seat in front of me. It was amazing. I was thrilled. A little

thing I know, but my miracle IS happening and yours will too! Just like

Flo,

I too am melting.

Safe journey,

MGB 03 MAY 00

Safely on the other side!!!!

Dr. Rutledge clos.net

Self-funded company plan administered by Interactive Medical

Denied on appeal as an excluded benefit

Self Pay >>

Dear ,

I am so happy to hear all the new and fun experiences

that happen after surgery. It really is an inspiration to us all, just like

you are! Happy Days are ahead!! Good Luck and Keep melting!! xoxox Margie Sc

July 26thhhhhhh

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Hi Friends,

Well, and I went to the doctor yesterday--actually made a day of it.

We both had our blood drawn, EKG's, she had her follow-up physical, and I had

the dreaded mammogram. Chris' bloodwork was the only difficult part of the

day. She has small veins that are difficult to find, so I always insist on a

phlebotomist. Well, when she is in the chair and I see one of our fav nurses

going to draw her blood, I asked where the phleb. was. Oh, she quit, she

tells me, I'm going to draw it. I told her my concerns and the problems

has had and she assured me all would be well. After looking for a vein

for about 5 full min. she started digging in her left arm for it. Then she

goes to the other arm and finally calls for help. Another nurse comes in and

she tries on the other side. I am freaking out now and they say they will

find one. I finally said no, stop, I will take her elsewhere. I told them

it wasn't their fault, and I wasn't mad, but that I wanted what was best for

my daughter. Since we have an HMO, she couldn't go downstairs with me while

I had my mam. Noooo, I had to go to a blood drawing station across town.

Thank God the lovely woman was very sympahtetic. had bruises on both

arms and she was just so wonderful with her. Within 2 min she was done and

apologized for how long it took! said, " It's okay, I spent 20 min at

the other place and they didn't even get anything. " I'm sure the whole

ordeal was worse for me than as she really didn't complain much. Wish

I could have traded veins with her, though--mine are always jabbed first

time, no prob.

Thursday I go for my physical and the dreaded pap test. My doc's letter will

be ready by then so I will be mailing off my packet probably Friday. Things

are moving along, slowly (or so it seems) but surely.

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

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In a message dated 7/26/2000 1:22:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

DebLaMan@... writes:

<< Thursday I go for my physical and the dreaded pap test. My doc's letter

will

be ready by then so I will be mailing off my packet probably Friday. Things

are moving along, slowly (or so it seems) but surely. >>

Good luck Deb,

tell I'm sorry about the pain of blood drawing, I've been there

and done that. When I was on Optifast, one of the times they drew blood, the

underside of my arm turned almost black from my elbow to my armpit, needless

to say I told them that the girl who drew it would never get the pleasure of

doing mine ever again. I hope your approval comes through and God Speed to

your baby!!!!!

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

5' 0 "

216.5 Lbs.

BMI 42

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

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In a message dated 7/26/00 11:53:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

vaschutz@... writes:

<< Hi Debbie,

I'm so sorry (and you) had to go through all that to get her blood

drawn.

One time I had to have blood drawn, and I told the person doing it that

sometimes people have problems finding my veins. She said that she had not

had

to stick a person more than once in several years. Guess what, I broke her

record. She stuck me several times and finally sent me away to have lunch

and

come back later for more tries. She eventually got it, but it was very

traumatic for me (and her too, I think, since I messed up her perfect

streak.)

Luckily with the last couple of blood tests I have had, there has been no

problem finding a vein the first time.

I hope you can have surgery with Chris. Good luck!

Sara

>>

Thanks ! Oh, I forgot to post this suggestion for those who have

problems in this area, like you and The phlebotomist told us that she

should always drink a couple big glasses of water (allowed for fasting

bloodwork) before future bloodwork, as it helps plump up the veins. I didn't

know that!

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

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