Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 , I would recommend that you remove the peanut butter and all nuts. I know the beginning can be boring, but just make sure that you have a lot of food on hand. The same things seem a bit less boring if they are ready to eat...LOL. Easier than making something else anyway. I would keep nuts out of your diet the entire time you are nursing. Nuts and peanuts are incredibly problematic for allergic kids. They seem to be the things that most often cause anaphylaxis and death among those with food allergies. Better to avoid them. For variety, try making the banana pancakes, sneaky veggie pancakes, chicken pancakes (turned into pizzas), etc. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 - I applaud your efforts to help your daughter while breastfeed and yourself for the long run. I wish I would have known about SCD when I was breastfeeding. My son could not tolerate milk, wheat, corn, garlic, chocolate, caffeine, green beans, cucumber, lettuce. I was close to being on SCD anyway except for all the sugar!!!! I agree with Jody on the nut thing. We found out 2 months ago that Caden is allergic to all tree nuts (but not peanuts). This was after being on SCD for 13months and having tree nuts almost everyday :-( He never showed us any signs that he was allergic. With all the gas, it definitally sounds like you have a yeast problem. Are you having any signs of die off yet like, green BM, nausea, vomiting, sunny nose, cold or flu symtoms??? These are signs of die-off. I would think that after the first wave of die off and after you are feeling better then you could start the enzymes and other yeast killers. You could try prescription one like nystatin. If she will tolerate it you could also use garlic (it really helped control Caden's yeast.) Hope this helps andrea mother of caden and Emmalynn -- In pecanbread , " tarinya2 " wrote: > > OK, I know most of the people who do the SCD have pretty major issues > with either gut disorders or autism, but hopefully we can fit in and > get some help, too, with our minor issues...I am exclusively > breast-feeding my almost 4 month old DD. About a month ago she > started showing symptoms of food allergies, right after I starting > eating a lot more dairy. After doing some research, I found that food > intolerances in an exclusively breast fed baby are generally caused by > the mother's leaky gut, so apparently I'm not breaking down the milk > proteins properly. I also have some problems that may be leaky gut > related (acne, low blood sugar, gas for no apparent reason), along > with some things that I think may be caused by a yeast overgrowth, > plus DD has a yeast rash. > > So...I decided to do the SCD, minus dairy at this point. I started a > few days ago and did the intro diet on pecanbread.com for 1 day > (couldn't go longer because I was barely functional that day from not > eating enough)--basically I ate chicken broth w/chicken & carrots, > hamburger patties, and eggs. This was Tuesday...Wednesday I added > applesauce and zucchini, Friday I added salmon, and today I added > avocado & banana. Oh, and I have been using just a little nut butter > every day but the intro day for extra calories. I know I'm adding > things faster than recommended--I'm trying to balance going slow with > feeling halfway functional, which is hard if I'm not getting enough > calories. > > Now for my questions...does anyone have any experience with the SCD > and the issues I've mentioned? > > When should I expect to see some sort of improvement by? I should > mention that I don't have any digestive symptoms other than gas, and > DD seems to have normal BF baby poop, except for some blood in her > stools sometimes (hence the food intolerance diagnosis). My gas has > gotten better but I still have a lot of it...the day after the intro > diet I had very little, though--not sure if that means anything or > not. So I really don't even know what to look for as far as > improvement, unless my acne/blood sugar issues or DD's allergy > symptoms go away. > > Am I going to totally sabotage myself by adding food faster than > recommended? I think I am at a point now where I can hold tight and > not add any new foods for a while. Should I try to cut out the nut > butter for a while, too? > > Also, does anyone have any experience with getting rid of yeast > overgrowth? I eventually want to add digestive enzymes in between > meals (and with meals, too) to help kill the yeast. I would also like > to take some sort of yeast killer, but I don't trust grapefruit seed > extract and can't use oil of oregano while nursing. Any suggestions? > > Hopefully this all makes sense...thanks in advance for any help:) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Can I just ask, does your child actually eat raw garlic or do you use garlic oil? Kerri SCD 3 months Re: introduction and some questions > - I applaud your efforts to help your daughter while > breastfeed and yourself for the long run. I wish I would have known > about SCD when I was breastfeeding. My son could not tolerate milk, > wheat, corn, garlic, chocolate, caffeine, green beans, cucumber, > lettuce. I was close to being on SCD anyway except for all the > sugar!!!! > > I agree with Jody on the nut thing. We found out 2 months ago that > Caden is allergic to all tree nuts (but not peanuts). This was > after being on SCD for 13months and having tree nuts almost > everyday :-( He never showed us any signs that he was allergic. > > With all the gas, it definitally sounds like you have a yeast > problem. Are you having any signs of die off yet like, green BM, > nausea, vomiting, sunny nose, cold or flu symtoms??? These are > signs of die-off. I would think that after the first wave of die > off and after you are feeling better then you could start the > enzymes and other yeast killers. > > You could try prescription one like nystatin. If she will tolerate > it you could also use garlic (it really helped control Caden's > yeast.) > > Hope this helps > andrea mother of caden and Emmalynn > > > -- In pecanbread , " tarinya2 " wrote: >> >> OK, I know most of the people who do the SCD have pretty major > issues >> with either gut disorders or autism, but hopefully we can fit in > and >> get some help, too, with our minor issues...I am exclusively >> breast-feeding my almost 4 month old DD. About a month ago she >> started showing symptoms of food allergies, right after I starting >> eating a lot more dairy. After doing some research, I found that > food >> intolerances in an exclusively breast fed baby are generally > caused by >> the mother's leaky gut, so apparently I'm not breaking down the > milk >> proteins properly. I also have some problems that may be leaky gut >> related (acne, low blood sugar, gas for no apparent reason), along >> with some things that I think may be caused by a yeast overgrowth, >> plus DD has a yeast rash. >> >> So...I decided to do the SCD, minus dairy at this point. I > started a >> few days ago and did the intro diet on pecanbread.com for 1 day >> (couldn't go longer because I was barely functional that day from > not >> eating enough)--basically I ate chicken broth w/chicken & carrots, >> hamburger patties, and eggs. This was Tuesday...Wednesday I added >> applesauce and zucchini, Friday I added salmon, and today I added >> avocado & banana. Oh, and I have been using just a little nut > butter >> every day but the intro day for extra calories. I know I'm adding >> things faster than recommended--I'm trying to balance going slow > with >> feeling halfway functional, which is hard if I'm not getting enough >> calories. >> >> Now for my questions...does anyone have any experience with the SCD >> and the issues I've mentioned? >> >> When should I expect to see some sort of improvement by? I should >> mention that I don't have any digestive symptoms other than gas, > and >> DD seems to have normal BF baby poop, except for some blood in her >> stools sometimes (hence the food intolerance diagnosis). My gas > has >> gotten better but I still have a lot of it...the day after the > intro >> diet I had very little, though--not sure if that means anything or >> not. So I really don't even know what to look for as far as >> improvement, unless my acne/blood sugar issues or DD's allergy >> symptoms go away. >> >> Am I going to totally sabotage myself by adding food faster than >> recommended? I think I am at a point now where I can hold tight > and >> not add any new foods for a while. Should I try to cut out the nut >> butter for a while, too? >> >> Also, does anyone have any experience with getting rid of yeast >> overgrowth? I eventually want to add digestive enzymes in between >> meals (and with meals, too) to help kill the yeast. I would also > like >> to take some sort of yeast killer, but I don't trust grapefruit > seed >> extract and can't use oil of oregano while nursing. Any > suggestions? >> >> Hopefully this all makes sense...thanks in advance for any help:) >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Not by itself. But I would put it in things like his ketchup, spagetti sauce, hamgurgers,etc. I also gave him garlic in a capsule. It was garlic and parsley. He would drink it if I mixed it with grape juice and water (yuck!!!!) but it worked!!! I think garlic oil would work too! andrea > >> > >> OK, I know most of the people who do the SCD have pretty major > > issues > >> with either gut disorders or autism, but hopefully we can fit in > > and > >> get some help, too, with our minor issues...I am exclusively > >> breast-feeding my almost 4 month old DD. About a month ago she > >> started showing symptoms of food allergies, right after I starting > >> eating a lot more dairy. After doing some research, I found that > > food > >> intolerances in an exclusively breast fed baby are generally > > caused by > >> the mother's leaky gut, so apparently I'm not breaking down the > > milk > >> proteins properly. I also have some problems that may be leaky gut > >> related (acne, low blood sugar, gas for no apparent reason), along > >> with some things that I think may be caused by a yeast overgrowth, > >> plus DD has a yeast rash. > >> > >> So...I decided to do the SCD, minus dairy at this point. I > > started a > >> few days ago and did the intro diet on pecanbread.com for 1 day > >> (couldn't go longer because I was barely functional that day from > > not > >> eating enough)--basically I ate chicken broth w/chicken & carrots, > >> hamburger patties, and eggs. This was Tuesday...Wednesday I added > >> applesauce and zucchini, Friday I added salmon, and today I added > >> avocado & banana. Oh, and I have been using just a little nut > > butter > >> every day but the intro day for extra calories. I know I'm adding > >> things faster than recommended--I'm trying to balance going slow > > with > >> feeling halfway functional, which is hard if I'm not getting enough > >> calories. > >> > >> Now for my questions...does anyone have any experience with the SCD > >> and the issues I've mentioned? > >> > >> When should I expect to see some sort of improvement by? I should > >> mention that I don't have any digestive symptoms other than gas, > > and > >> DD seems to have normal BF baby poop, except for some blood in her > >> stools sometimes (hence the food intolerance diagnosis). My gas > > has > >> gotten better but I still have a lot of it...the day after the > > intro > >> diet I had very little, though--not sure if that means anything or > >> not. So I really don't even know what to look for as far as > >> improvement, unless my acne/blood sugar issues or DD's allergy > >> symptoms go away. > >> > >> Am I going to totally sabotage myself by adding food faster than > >> recommended? I think I am at a point now where I can hold tight > > and > >> not add any new foods for a while. Should I try to cut out the nut > >> butter for a while, too? > >> > >> Also, does anyone have any experience with getting rid of yeast > >> overgrowth? I eventually want to add digestive enzymes in between > >> meals (and with meals, too) to help kill the yeast. I would also > > like > >> to take some sort of yeast killer, but I don't trust grapefruit > > seed > >> extract and can't use oil of oregano while nursing. Any > > suggestions? > >> > >> Hopefully this all makes sense...thanks in advance for any help:) > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > > websites: > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > > and > > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 " We found out 2 months ago that Caden is allergic to all tree nuts (but not peanuts). This was after being on SCD for 13months and having tree nuts almost everyday :-( He never showed us any signs that he was allergic. " I have to say that I find this hard to believe. Nut allergies are VERY serious. I can see that perhaps he is sensitive (IgG) to the nuts because of leaky gut issues. Whatever someone eats while leaky gut is an issue will show up on an IgG test. If you remove all of the foods and do the test 6 months later, the test will show positive to the new foods. That's just the nature of the " beast " . Whatever is eaten leaks through until the gut heals completely. That doesn't mean that he is actually allergic to nuts, but that his gut isn't healed completely yet. Allergic reactions (IgE) are serious and nut allergies tend to be life threatening. People with true nut allergies carry epi pens because it is so serious. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Good for you in your efforts to find te source of your child's difficulties. I've been through 3.5 years of nursing a highly allergic child who was finally diagnosed with autism at 20 months (we had known since 12 months and started some biomedical interventions at that time). My own diet has been clean of his allergens for 3 years now, so I have been on an extremely restrictive diet. We started SCD 2 months ago and are currently eating about 12 foods, rotated so that we eat 3 foods each day. Some typical days in our diet look like this - Day 1: lamb, asparagus, butternut squash; Day 2: buffalo, brussel sprouts, beets; Day 3: elk, celeriac, spinach. While SCD will help your own digestion and your ability to break down proteins, some proteins will probably still get through your breastmilk. SCD will certainly help, especially if you have other symptoms of digestive dysbiosis, like gas, GI disturbances, reflux, poor stools, etc. Still, I would caution you to be cautious and avoid allergenic foods while nursing. There are kids who are simply allergic/sensitive to proteins for their own immune reasons, and will continue to react to the presence of those foods in your breastmilk. If your child has allergic tendencies, it is a good idea to restrict your/her diet to low-allergen foods. The most common allergens which are still permitted in the general SCD diet include nuts, milk, coconut, fish and eggs. If I were you, I would avoid these foods on the base diet, and introduce them one at a time and slowly to observe whether your child reacts to them. The exception is nuts, which you should avoid the entire time while nursing, and not feed the child until the child is at least 3 years old. This is standard allergy advice (some allergists say 5 years old). Some low-allergen foods that would fit in the SCD are lamb, butternut squash, zucchini, summer squash, cauliflower, turkey, beets, asparagus, celeriac (later in the diet), brussel sprouts, avocado, pears, cranberry, blueberry, blackberry, wild meats like elk and venison, duck. On a restricted diet you will need to eat more frequently as you adjust to the new foods. Many mothers on restriction diets or elimination diets cook large amounts of food to have on hand when hunger strikes. You cna make up for carbohydrates by eating higher- calorie fatty meats like lamb and buffalo. Roasts of lamb with squash and beets can be a yummy nibble food as well as a staple for meals. Eat frequently and plentifully. This is hard work, and you are wonderful to do this for your child. You'll want to be sure and get a lot of emotional support as you adjust to the diet. This group is a great place. I've been through restricted diets and nursing for several years, so please feel free to email me if I can help! Suzanne Tom, ASD, > -- In pecanbread , " tarinya2 " <tarinya2@> wrote: > > > > OK, I know most of the people who do the SCD have pretty major > issues > > with either gut disorders or autism, but hopefully we can fit in > and > > get some help, too, with our minor issues...I am exclusively > > breast-feeding my almost 4 month old DD. About a month ago she > > started showing symptoms of food allergies, right after I starting > > eating a lot more dairy. After doing some research, I found that > food > > intolerances in an exclusively breast fed baby are generally > caused by > > the mother's leaky gut, so apparently I'm not breaking down the > milk > > proteins properly. I also have some problems that may be leaky gut > > related (acne, low blood sugar, gas for no apparent reason), along > > with some things that I think may be caused by a yeast overgrowth, > > plus DD has a yeast rash. > > > > So...I decided to do the SCD, minus dairy at this point. I > started a > > few days ago and did the intro diet on pecanbread.com for 1 day > > (couldn't go longer because I was barely functional that day from > not > > eating enough)--basically I ate chicken broth w/chicken & carrots, > > hamburger patties, and eggs. This was Tuesday...Wednesday I added > > applesauce and zucchini, Friday I added salmon, and today I added > > avocado & banana. Oh, and I have been using just a little nut > butter > > every day but the intro day for extra calories. I know I'm adding > > things faster than recommended--I'm trying to balance going slow > with > > feeling halfway functional, which is hard if I'm not getting enough > > calories. > > > > Now for my questions...does anyone have any experience with the SCD > > and the issues I've mentioned? > > > > When should I expect to see some sort of improvement by? I should > > mention that I don't have any digestive symptoms other than gas, > and > > DD seems to have normal BF baby poop, except for some blood in her > > stools sometimes (hence the food intolerance diagnosis). My gas > has > > gotten better but I still have a lot of it...the day after the > intro > > diet I had very little, though--not sure if that means anything or > > not. So I really don't even know what to look for as far as > > improvement, unless my acne/blood sugar issues or DD's allergy > > symptoms go away. > > > > Am I going to totally sabotage myself by adding food faster than > > recommended? I think I am at a point now where I can hold tight > and > > not add any new foods for a while. Should I try to cut out the nut > > butter for a while, too? > > > > Also, does anyone have any experience with getting rid of yeast > > overgrowth? I eventually want to add digestive enzymes in between > > meals (and with meals, too) to help kill the yeast. I would also > like > > to take some sort of yeast killer, but I don't trust grapefruit > seed > > extract and can't use oil of oregano while nursing. Any > suggestions? > > > > Hopefully this all makes sense...thanks in advance for any help:) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 While this is generally true, there are some people who do have mild IgE reactions to nuts, just as to other foods. My son is one of them. IgE reactions that are as delayed as several months are rare but not unknown. This pattern is more typical of leaky gut and IgG reactions, but my own son has leaky gut with mostly IgE reactions, and only some IgG reactions. I've moderated a food allergy group for babies and mothers for several years, and we would see these cases from time to time. With nut reactions (as well as in any infant with an allergic tendency - be it IgE or IgG), it it a very good recommendation to avoid nuts and peanuts too. While these allergies may start out mild, continued exposure can lead to more severe reactions, and ultimately to anaphlyaxis. If you don't yet have an Epi-pen Jr., it would be a good idea to ask your allergist for a prescription. Suzanne > > > " We found out 2 months ago that Caden is allergic to all tree nuts > (but not peanuts). This was after being on SCD for 13months and > having tree nuts almost everyday :-( He never showed us any signs > that he was allergic. " > > > I have to say that I find this hard to believe. Nut allergies are > VERY serious. > > I can see that perhaps he is sensitive (IgG) to the nuts because of > leaky gut issues. Whatever someone eats while leaky gut is an issue > will show up on an IgG test. If you remove all of the foods and do > the test 6 months later, the test will show positive to the new foods. > That's just the nature of the " beast " . Whatever is eaten leaks > through until the gut heals completely. That doesn't mean that he is > actually allergic to nuts, but that his gut isn't healed completely yet. > > Allergic reactions (IgE) are serious and nut allergies tend to be life > threatening. People with true nut allergies carry epi pens because it > is so serious. > > > Jody > mom to -7 and -9 > SCD 1/03 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 The nut (and egg) allergies were IgE and we have 4 epi pens now. Hopefully we will never have to use them. We have not done IgG testing to test for intolerances yet. andrea > > > " We found out 2 months ago that Caden is allergic to all tree nuts > (but not peanuts). This was after being on SCD for 13months and > having tree nuts almost everyday :-( He never showed us any signs > that he was allergic. " > > > I have to say that I find this hard to believe. Nut allergies are > VERY serious. > > I can see that perhaps he is sensitive (IgG) to the nuts because of > leaky gut issues. Whatever someone eats while leaky gut is an issue > will show up on an IgG test. If you remove all of the foods and do > the test 6 months later, the test will show positive to the new foods. > That's just the nature of the " beast " . Whatever is eaten leaks > through until the gut heals completely. That doesn't mean that he is > actually allergic to nuts, but that his gut isn't healed completely yet. > > Allergic reactions (IgE) are serious and nut allergies tend to be life > threatening. People with true nut allergies carry epi pens because it > is so serious. > > > Jody > mom to -7 and -9 > SCD 1/03 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Wow. I had never heard of anyone having true allergies to nuts, but not showing any outward signs of allergies. What about coconut? Is he allergic to that as well? How about tell us what he is not allergic to. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Jody, Coconut and peanuts were fine. Nuts (almonds were the worst followed by walnut which I never remember him eating) and egg were the only food allergies that came up. The other things that came up were every mold that she tested for, a few trees (can't remeber which ones) and bermuda grass (good thing we planted fescue!!!) The only outward signs that he had allergies was a bumpy type rash on his upper arms, thighs and cheecks. All the doctors have said that it is keretosis. But he has had that since 6 months olds. He never had wheezing,hives, etc after eating nuts or eggs. And he had them almost every day. I'm hoping that he will out grow them. I'm am not terrably concern about an anphalactic reaction since that has not been a problem but we are still avoiding nuts so it does not happen. Any thoughts?? andrea > > Wow. I had never heard of anyone having true allergies to nuts, but > not showing any outward signs of allergies. > > What about coconut? Is he allergic to that as well? > > How about tell us what he is not allergic to. > > > Jody > mom to -7 and -9 > SCD 1/03 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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