Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Sorry I mean " Dear Angie " ...got name wrong...ANTOINETTE Re: Re: Overwhelmed vegetarian Lyn said:........ " But the initial 2-5 day period is mind-boggling for a vegetarian. " ........ I respond in a lengthy and heart felt message: Dear Lyn, You will have to start the " die off " with the intro diet, found on pecan web site. If you don't the microorganisms will not start to die....we did it longer than just the three days recommended by most...but then we had more GI problems going on....it is individual. The activated charcoal is a God send (we started without it and PAID!). It soaks up all the toxins that the bad guys release when they die....making a person feel dizzy, nauseous, poop/eliminate more, sweat, low grade fever (do not medicate this), achy joints and muscles,....irritability.....easy crying.....even has a part in causing " cravings " for sweets! It is not fun...warn you now. Hang close to serve and we will help guide/support you through it! Warm Epson Salt soaks in the bath help with the " pain " and discomfort. About the vegetarian part.....may want to pray on that one. We too have experimented with many ways of eating during our " lives journey " ....this was one of them. During this time of my life I was my sickest, and was following strict nutritional guide lines for being " vegetarian " . If I knew now what I now know about B12 deficiencies and vitamin B problems being caused by the Illeum (the part of the small intestine that absorbs being so sick and damaged, I would have never done this to my self. I was undiagnosed at the time (the doctors missed that my intestines where damaged up until I was 37 years old!)....didn't know that my gut was so sick and suffered the consequences being ASD myself.....You see I was undiagnosed at the time....and we just didn't know. If your child has ASD you can assume that his Ileum is compromised and that he has B12 and B problems. This is why your DAN! recommended this diet..so that his gut could heal. The problem with the vegetarian diet is that it is naturally low in these very vitamins...especially B12....which by the way is not absorbed well by anybodies gut in just pill form....compromise this with a damaged ASD gut and it is worse. Even us meat eaters are having to get B12 shots and use B12 inhalers/sprays and gels in the beginning of healing the gut.......to get over this deficiency hump this is a must for many of us....not eating meat could spell disaster for the success of your ASD son...since meat is naturaly VERY high in this very vitamin. B12 deficiency can cause problems with attention, depression, irritability, cloudy thinking, and even mental illness and ASD symptoms....I urge you to research the affects of B12 deficiency. Although primitive man before the spear and arrow where created never hunted like like a wolf....scientific proof showed that human evolved by scavenging for meat....foods high in B12...a mater of fact the native American's (the last " hunter gatherers " of America) use to enjoy eating the warm liver raw...to help themselves with this very deficiency...they knew...BEING VERY IN TUNED TO MOTHER NATURE AND WHAT THEIR BODIES NATURALLY NEEDED. This is why we don't have fangs....but when we developed the spear could hunt even better....I urge you to learn about the human bodies natural genetic predisposition for needing meat in the diet. Do research on the original diet of mankind and learn what the human body is design for....genetically preconditioned to eat and do well on. You will discover why the SCD works (if implemented with meats)! I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE VEGETARIAN ON scd HAD THE SAME SUCCESS.... I URGE YOU TO DO THIS FURTHER INVESTIGATION, for you sick and nutritionally deprived son.....all ASD kids are " starving " in a since due to their damaged guts...not just the vegetarian ones! This means that their brains are starving too! This is why the SCDiet works so well and fast for many ASDer's...because once the gut heals...and it heals rather fast once the die off has occurred....the brain starts to get the nutrients it needs....finally...to develop normally...vanishing many ASD problems. But only if they get what they need! Even Elaine in her BTVC book said that it mind boggled her how a vegetarian could possibly get enough naturally occurring B12 in the diet (that occurs only in meat and some grains)....she couldn't even come up with a solution for those vegetarians....AND SHE WAS A SMART LADY! The SCD diet saved our daughter/family...have a ways to go....still relatively " new " to the process of true healing. I wish we had started sooner...but better late than never. Please rethink this vegetarian theme and concentrate more on the morality issues of saving your son.......embrace the " human " inside of you that has proven to need meat in light of many scientists and looking into the " original diet of mankind (which I might add did not involved grain and all these complex carbs!) " ...and understand that this SCDiet may not work for your son unless your DAN! realizes the importance of making CERTAIN he is getting enough B12 and B vitamins eating in this manner (taking blood tests often to make sure he is OK....insist on it being done!)...something that would be done naturally if eating meat. Especially now that you have to take Grain and starches out of the diet.....the main thing many vegetarians rely on to break this imbalance. No judgment...just sharing experience strength and hope, You are a good mom for saving your son AND DOING THIS! Hang in there...and stick close to serve! WE ALL WELCOME YOU! Sincerely, Antoinette p.s. Almost two months entire family SCD, reasons Celiac Disease and ASD problems...mother to 23 month old Celiac ASD, and 4 year old Celiac ASD and 18 month old Hyperekplexia! Finally healing the SCD way....wouldn't go back to old ways if you paid us. We are getting our children back when no other way worked! a.. Visit your group " pecanbread<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread<http://groups.yahoo.com/gro\ up/pecanbread>> " on the web. b.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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