Re: Questions about post-op depression

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BJenk23768@... wrote:

>

> I wondered if anybody could help me here:

>

> In the clinic I attended, Dr. R. talked about depression being a

> possible

> complication after surgery, due to falling estrogen levels. Are there

> any

> post-ops who've been through post-op depression?

Trish, me and I think Genz, plus I heard from a lady who said she was

the " post-op depression " poster child -- she said, for exampled, " I

cried when I saw an ad on TV to donate blood. "

Actually, from what I could see, just about everybody hit a sort of

depression the third week, but it isn't solely attributable to

" hormones. " You are also changing your entire relationship with food

and while your brain will tell you " I can deal with that, " it's quite

another thing to have a lifelong set of habits changed overnight.

You'll see.

Now, that said, it's not *that* big of a deal -- steer clear of people

for a couple of weeks, though.

I was taking an anti-depressant before surgery and continued to take it

post surgery and the depression that hit didn't last but a few days for

me. Other people had different results.

You can't take estrogen as a hormone replacement because your body is

already producing estrogen suitable for your overweight body, so really,

you'll likely have too much estrogen for awhile, rather than not enough,

and it isn't *just* estrogen that is affected.

It's a bit of a roller coaster you just have to ride out.

> How did you treat it? I wondered if anyone had ever considered estrogen

replacement therapy as

> a possible treatment.

Antidepressants. I think another person did that, too.

> I'm a little concerned for myself - after labor and delivery in 1990,

> I experienced those hormonal blues.

It's similar to that, but with more of a real mean-feeling component

(b*tch factor X). Maybe it's because you don't get the baby to take

home!

> If you want to email me privately, here's my email address:

> bjenk23768@...

>

> Thanks!

>

> Blair

> MGB 7/24/00

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Dear Incredible Shrinking Woman:

I didn't say I *wanted* a baby to take home (unless you've got a spare

6' French " baby " with a deep baritone voice . . .)

Kind regards,

florence@... wrote:

>

> said:

>

> It's similar to that, but with more of a real mean-feeling component

> (b*tch factor X). Maybe it's because you don't get the baby to take

> home!

>

> Well hell , why didn't you tell us you wanted a baby to take

> home. We would have

> worked on that!

>

> Melting

>

> Florence Ballengee

> Hollywood, land

> florence@...

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said:

It's similar to that, but with more of a real mean-feeling component

(b*tch factor X). Maybe it's because you don't get the baby to take

home!

Well hell , why didn't you tell us you wanted a baby to take home. We would

have

worked on that!

Melting

Florence Ballengee

Hollywood, land

florence@...

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Hi Blair,

Everyone's experience is different. I suffer from treatment resistant

clinical depression

and have for years. I did not experience any post-op depression. My depression

is pre-existing and

since it is treatment resistant, I do not take anti-depressants. I am also on

hormone replacement

therapy. Per Dr. R's orders, I restarted

my hormones at 2 weeks post-op at the same dosage as pre-op. At 4 weeks my PCP

did my bloodwork and

checked my hormone levels and they were within normal range. I will have them

checked again at 2

months.

I have not experienced any food withdrawals. I am able to eat anything I

want, I just don't

want much. I have been in social settings involving food and it has not been a

problem. Actually,

ending my love affair with food has not been as difficult to adjust to as I had

imagined pre-surgery.

I feared that I wouldn't be able to eat much of a variety of foods and that fear

was totally

unfounded.

I introduced foods into my post-op diet very rapidly. If I wanted to

take a bite of

something....I did. If it went down well and I wanted more, I ate more. I never

felt deprived because

I ate what I wanted and it has not affected my weight loss. At 7 weeks post-op I

have lost 38 pounds

and 43 inches. Not bad considering I have been eating real food since day 6.

I recommend that everyone follow Dr. R's recommendations as best they

can. I had a hard time

tolerating fruit juices because they tasted too sweet. That is why I started

eating early on. Wishing

you the best.

Love,

Genz

wrote:

> BJenk23768@... wrote:

> >

> > I wondered if anybody could help me here:

> >

> > In the clinic I attended, Dr. R. talked about depression being a

> > possible

> > complication after surgery, due to falling estrogen levels. Are there

> > any

> > post-ops who've been through post-op depression?

>

> Trish, me and I think Genz, plus I heard from a lady who said she was

> the " post-op depression " poster child -- she said, for exampled, " I

> cried when I saw an ad on TV to donate blood. "

>

> Actually, from what I could see, just about everybody hit a sort of

> depression the third week, but it isn't solely attributable to

> " hormones. " You are also changing your entire relationship with food

> and while your brain will tell you " I can deal with that, " it's quite

> another thing to have a lifelong set of habits changed overnight.

> You'll see.

>

> Now, that said, it's not *that* big of a deal -- steer clear of people

> for a couple of weeks, though.

>

> I was taking an anti-depressant before surgery and continued to take it

> post surgery and the depression that hit didn't last but a few days for

> me. Other people had different results.

>

> You can't take estrogen as a hormone replacement because your body is

> already producing estrogen suitable for your overweight body, so really,

> you'll likely have too much estrogen for awhile, rather than not enough,

> and it isn't *just* estrogen that is affected.

>

> It's a bit of a roller coaster you just have to ride out.

>

> > How did you treat it? I wondered if anyone had ever considered estrogen

replacement therapy as

> > a possible treatment.

>

> Antidepressants. I think another person did that, too.

>

> > I'm a little concerned for myself - after labor and delivery in 1990,

> > I experienced those hormonal blues.

>

> It's similar to that, but with more of a real mean-feeling component

> (b*tch factor X). Maybe it's because you don't get the baby to take

> home!

>

>

> > If you want to email me privately, here's my email address:

> > bjenk23768@...

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Blair

> > MGB 7/24/00

>

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Blair,

I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this but if you will pay attention to

the posts you will occassionally see a little of the depression pop up now and

again. Someone who has had MGB recently will occassionally take an inocent

remark

very personally and a small war of words will occur. It is in striking contrast

to what is usually found and is ususally out of character for what you have

known

this person to post. It will frequently end as quickly as it starts.

As you have heard it is difficult to so dramatically change your eating style.

Always before you could cheat or stop the diet at your discretion. Once you

have

done this (had MGB) you have no choice but to learn to live with it. Learn a

new

way to eat. I was upset that I could not eat stringbeans and potatoes. Like

said you do not know the size of your stomach at first. I had a pot of

stringbeans and potatoes and fixed a small bowl of this. I was only able to eat

a

few bites and I know it is weird but it frustrated me not to be able to eat

more.

My surgery was 6-2-00 so I am still learning. I still do not know how much to

put

on a plate. When I feel full I must stop immediately or I feel as if I will

vomit

(never have). I have this terrible urge to finish the amount that is on my

plate.

These are frustrations that I am trying to learn to deal with. However, the

benefits ARE worth it.

Darlene

BJenk23768@... wrote:

> I wondered if anybody could help me here:

>

> In the clinic I attended, Dr. R. talked about depression being a possible

> complication after surgery, due to falling estrogen levels. Are there any

> post-ops who've been through post-op depression? How did you treat it? I

> wondered if anyone had ever considered estrogen replacement therapy as a

> possible treatment.

>

> I'm a little concerned for myself - after labor and delivery in 1990, I

> experienced those hormonal blues.

>

> If you want to email me privately, here's my email address: bjenk23768@...

>

> Thanks!

>

> Blair

> MGB 7/24/00

>

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