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Congratulations Michigan Group !!!!!!!!

you really are an Angel :-)

in SC

Pre-op

386 lbs.

Waiting on ins. approval

If you see someone without a smile,

Give them one of yours.

If you and I should meet and

You forget me, you have lost nothing.

If you meet JESUS and you forget him,

you will have lost everything.

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In a message dated 7/18/00 8:40:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

gardiner20@... writes:

<< Every once in a while. . . there is a person that renews your faith

in the human race. An angel from up above. For us Michiganders,

that special someone is .

For the past three weeks, has worked day and night, educating

our Michigan Blue Cross Blue Shield attornys about the mistruths of

the MGB. They had denied 9 of us at last count. There excuse. . ...

not that we were not medically necessary.... not that we were

excluded. . . .but that the procedure was experimental.....

How does an individual fight that?

If it was not for with the help of Dr. Rutledge, we

would never have accomplished the agonizing appeal process many of us

we had to go through to gain approval. bypassed all that and

went to the top.

wasted no time getting to the top eschelon of BCBS. She had

kept us abreast of each and every problem that BCBS had come up with,

along with the concerns they had to disapprove this procedure. When

BCBS had a question, had the answer right off the top of her

head. She knows this procedure so well, she did not even have to

think twice about the issue at hand.

Three weeks and two days. . . . it seemed like a lifetime. Now the

hard part is over. We were approved today. We are on our way to

North Carolina.

Dr. R is even giving us a Michigan Day. . .

, I just want to thank you for all you have done, this comes

from all of us. We could have never done this without you. Flo

thank for the advice. It was the best advice I have ever taken.

It was also the cheapest. would not take a dime for all the

hours she spent getting us approve. We really appeciate this .

Dr. Rutledge, you should really consider hiring this angel. She

would be wonderful to work with your insurance approvals and denials.

And she is so experienced!!!!!

Well North Carolina here we come. And . . . . were not going

without you!!!!!!

From the bottom of our hearts. . . .

The Michigan Crew

>>

How ironic. Isn't Michigan also the state where one insurance company

recommends the MGB over other surgeries?

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) ins letter sent 7/14

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In a message dated 7/18/00 8:40:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

gardiner20@... writes:

<< Every once in a while. . . there is a person that renews your faith

in the human race. An angel from up above. For us Michiganders,

that special someone is .

For the past three weeks, has worked day and night, educating

our Michigan Blue Cross Blue Shield attornys about the mistruths of

the MGB. They had denied 9 of us at last count. There excuse. . ...

not that we were not medically necessary.... not that we were

excluded. . . .but that the procedure was experimental.....

How does an individual fight that?

If it was not for with the help of Dr. Rutledge, we

would never have accomplished the agonizing appeal process many of us

we had to go through to gain approval. bypassed all that and

went to the top.

wasted no time getting to the top eschelon of BCBS. She had

kept us abreast of each and every problem that BCBS had come up with,

along with the concerns they had to disapprove this procedure. When

BCBS had a question, had the answer right off the top of her

head. She knows this procedure so well, she did not even have to

think twice about the issue at hand.

Three weeks and two days. . . . it seemed like a lifetime. Now the

hard part is over. We were approved today. We are on our way to

North Carolina.

Dr. R is even giving us a Michigan Day. . .

, I just want to thank you for all you have done, this comes

from all of us. We could have never done this without you. Flo

thank for the advice. It was the best advice I have ever taken.

It was also the cheapest. would not take a dime for all the

hours she spent getting us approve. We really appeciate this .

Dr. Rutledge, you should really consider hiring this angel. She

would be wonderful to work with your insurance approvals and denials.

And she is so experienced!!!!!

Well North Carolina here we come. And . . . . were not going

without you!!!!!!

From the bottom of our hearts. . . .

The Michigan Crew

>>

Okay , you just went from comet to soft scrub.

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) ins letter sent 7/14

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Don't you ever sleep either? You did a wonderful thing. I'm sure these

Michigan people are grateful beyond words.

Kay

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> Goofygrits@... wrote:

> >

> > Congratulations Michigan Group !!!!!!!!

> >

> > you really are an Angel :-)

>

> Shhhhhh. Whaddya tryin' to do, ruin my reputation??!

>

> :)

>

> Kind regards,

>

>

>

>

> >

> > in SC

> > Pre-op

> > 386 lbs.

> > Waiting on ins. approval

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> , I just want to thank you for all you have done, this comes

> from all of us. We could have never done this without you. Flo

> thank for the advice. It was the best advice I have ever taken.

> It was also the cheapest. would not take a dime for all the

> hours she spent getting us approve. We really appeciate this .

>

> Dr. Rutledge, you should really consider hiring this angel. She

> would be wonderful to work with your insurance approvals and

denials.

> And she is so experienced!!!!!

>

> Well North Carolina here we come. And . . . . were not going

> without you!!!!!!

>

>

> From the bottom of our hearts. . . .

>

> The Michigan Crew

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> From the bottom of our hearts

Oh gosh, this has to be one of the best posts I've read tonight, and

ALL of them have been wonderful! This is SUPPORT. I am so happy for

all the Michigan preops. And hats off to for her expertise and

willingness to help unselfishly.

ebbieday in VA

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Aw, you make me blush. Thanks for the kind words.

It wasn't my doing, though, it took the talents of several folks -- you

coordinating it all and locating all the people and information and

staying on top of everything. Then it was Dr. Rutledge's facts,

statistics and his recent arguments I gave them, and of course, Debbie,

in Dr. R.'s office putting up with all the phone calls and providing all

the past history -- I was just the conduit. Ultimately, it was truth

that won this battle.

I'm really glad it worked out well and everyone is going to get to go.

Kind regards,

gardiner20@... wrote:

>

> Every once in a while. . . there is a person that renews your faith

> in the human race. An angel from up above. For us Michiganders,

> that special someone is .

>

> For the past three weeks, has worked day and night, educating

> our Michigan Blue Cross Blue Shield attornys about the mistruths of

> the MGB. They had denied 9 of us at last count. There excuse. . ...

> not that we were not medically necessary.... not that we were

> excluded. . . .but that the procedure was experimental.....

>

> How does an individual fight that?

>

> If it was not for with the help of Dr. Rutledge, we

> would never have accomplished the agonizing appeal process many of us

> we had to go through to gain approval. bypassed all that and

> went to the top.

>

> wasted no time getting to the top eschelon of BCBS. She had

> kept us abreast of each and every problem that BCBS had come up with,

> along with the concerns they had to disapprove this procedure. When

> BCBS had a question, had the answer right off the top of her

> head. She knows this procedure so well, she did not even have to

> think twice about the issue at hand.

>

> Three weeks and two days. . . . it seemed like a lifetime. Now the

> hard part is over. We were approved today. We are on our way to

> North Carolina.

>

> Dr. R is even giving us a Michigan Day. . .

>

> , I just want to thank you for all you have done, this comes

> from all of us. We could have never done this without you. Flo

> thank for the advice. It was the best advice I have ever taken.

> It was also the cheapest. would not take a dime for all the

> hours she spent getting us approve. We really appeciate this .

>

> Dr. Rutledge, you should really consider hiring this angel. She

> would be wonderful to work with your insurance approvals and denials.

> And she is so experienced!!!!!

>

> Well North Carolina here we come. And . . . . were not going

> without you!!!!!!

>

> >From the bottom of our hearts. . . .

>

> The Michigan Crew

>

> >From the bottom of our hearts

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Goofygrits@... wrote:

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> Congratulations Michigan Group !!!!!!!!

>

> you really are an Angel :-)

Shhhhhh. Whaddya tryin' to do, ruin my reputation??!

:)

Kind regards,

>

> in SC

> Pre-op

> 386 lbs.

> Waiting on ins. approval

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Debbie (ebbieday) wrote:

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> > , I just want to thank you for all you have done, this comes

> > from all of us. We could have never done this without you. Flo

> > thank for the advice. It was the best advice I have ever taken.

> > It was also the cheapest. would not take a dime for all the

> > hours she spent getting us approve. We really appeciate this .

> >

> > Dr. Rutledge, you should really consider hiring this angel. She

> > would be wonderful to work with your insurance approvals and

> denials.

> > And she is so experienced!!!!!

> >

> > Well North Carolina here we come. And . . . . were not going

> > without you!!!!!!

> >

> >

> > From the bottom of our hearts. . . .

> >

> > The Michigan Crew

> Oh gosh, this has to be one of the best posts I've read tonight, and

> ALL of them have been wonderful! This is SUPPORT. I am so happy for

> all the Michigan preops. And hats off to for her expertise and

> willingness to help unselfishly.

>

> ebbieday in VA

Glad to help and it's so exciting to see all these people on their way

now!

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> The Michigan Crew

> >>

> Okay , you just went from comet to soft scrub.

>

> Regards,

> Debbie in IL

> Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

> Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) ins letter sent 7/14

LOL!

Dang, I knew it would was going to ruin my reputation!!

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> ,

> Don't you ever sleep either? You did a wonderful thing. I'm sure

> these Michigan people are grateful beyond words.

> Kay

I've always been kind of a high energy person and up late -- some

genetic throwback to the neanderthal hunter/gatherer thing, I guess. :)

Kind regards,

>

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> > Goofygrits@... wrote:

> > >

> > > Congratulations Michigan Group !!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > you really are an Angel :-)

> >

> > Shhhhhh. Whaddya tryin' to do, ruin my reputation??!

> >

> > :)

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > in SC

> > > Pre-op

> > > 386 lbs.

> > > Waiting on ins. approval

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Heftygurll@... wrote:

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> YAY for you and to all you fellow Michiganders!! Good luck to

> all

> of you!!

>

>

>

Thanks -- we're planning a Durham or bust party soon!

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> > YAY for you and to all you fellow Michiganders!! Good luck

to

> > all

> > of you!!

> >

> >

> >

>

> Thanks -- we're planning a Durham or bust party soon!

>

> Kind regards,

>

>

, You must be a very passionate woman! Being your friend would be

a pleasure, but I sure wouldn't want to be your enemy. I am a very

empathethic person and I can feel the Joy of all the pre-opts from

Michigan. Once again Thank YOu

Marjory

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> , You must be a very passionate woman!

Passionate's my middle name, heheh! Why else do you think I'm trying to

find another Frenchman, anyway??! (No Kens for me, thanks!) :) :) :)

Parle moi d'amour, princes, et de bon vin!! J'aime la vie -- la libre!

> Being your friend would be

> a pleasure, but I sure wouldn't want to be your enemy.

It's takes too much energy to have an enemy, so I don't have any. Maybe

I'm just getting old. :)

> I am a very empathethic person and I can feel the Joy of all the > pre-opts

from Michigan.

Isn't it great!!

> Once again Thank YOu

> Marjory

My pleasure! Thanks for the kind words, Marjory!

Kind regards,

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YEAHHHHHHHHH MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH LINDAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH DR.R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whew! I am tired!!! xoxox

Margie Sc July26th!! LOL

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In a message dated 7/18/00 9:33:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

lindat@... writes:

<< I was just the conduit. >>

Well, I heard that if anyone conduit, it's !

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) ins letter sent 7/14

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This is fantastic news! Lives saved is always fantastic news!

Having worked with and for attorneys my whole law enforcement career, I have

never had

the same skepticism of attorneys that many other people have. I told the jokes,

and enjoyed

them, but I knew many many attorneys who used their abilities to help others. My

best friend

is an attorney and I wont' go into detail....but my daughter had a near-fatal

accident last

winter and if wasn't for her, my daughter would have experienced financial ruin

because the

driver was not insured.

is a keeper. She tells it like it is and this scares some people.

But many

attorneys are realists and this is what makes them good at what they do (not all

of them

certainly, LOL).

I'm so happy for " The Michigan Crew " . This is indeed bulk good news! And good

news for

you too !

Flo from land who's melting by the minute

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Hollywood, land

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I am just one of the many Michiganders that has helped with all her

efforts on our behalf. I just want to thank you from the bottom of my

heart ! Looking at the other side thanks to you. And many thanks to

for talking to me and keeping me updated on the progress with BC/BS

of Mich.

from Michigan

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Wonderful! Wonderful!!! I am crying with happiness for you all!!!!

Sara

gardiner20@... wrote:

> Every once in a while. . . there is a person that renews your faith

> in the human race. An angel from up above. For us Michiganders,

> that special someone is .

>

> For the past three weeks, has worked day and night, educating

> our Michigan Blue Cross Blue Shield attornys about the mistruths of

> the MGB. They had denied 9 of us at last count. There excuse. . ...

> not that we were not medically necessary.... not that we were

> excluded. . . .but that the procedure was experimental.....

>

> How does an individual fight that?

>

> If it was not for with the help of Dr. Rutledge, we

> would never have accomplished the agonizing appeal process many of us

> we had to go through to gain approval. bypassed all that and

> went to the top.

>

> wasted no time getting to the top eschelon of BCBS. She had

> kept us abreast of each and every problem that BCBS had come up with,

> along with the concerns they had to disapprove this procedure. When

> BCBS had a question, had the answer right off the top of her

> head. She knows this procedure so well, she did not even have to

> think twice about the issue at hand.

>

> Three weeks and two days. . . . it seemed like a lifetime. Now the

> hard part is over. We were approved today. We are on our way to

> North Carolina.

>

> Dr. R is even giving us a Michigan Day. . .

>

> , I just want to thank you for all you have done, this comes

> from all of us. We could have never done this without you. Flo

> thank for the advice. It was the best advice I have ever taken.

> It was also the cheapest. would not take a dime for all the

> hours she spent getting us approve. We really appeciate this .

>

> Dr. Rutledge, you should really consider hiring this angel. She

> would be wonderful to work with your insurance approvals and denials.

> And she is so experienced!!!!!

>

> Well North Carolina here we come. And . . . . were not going

> without you!!!!!!

>

> >From the bottom of our hearts. . . .

>

> The Michigan Crew

>

> >From the bottom of our hearts

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I am sincerley thrilled for all of you Michigan Folks!!!! I know

first hand how very difficult Blue Cross can be. Today is my one

year anniversary of fighting for my gastric by-pass. I'm still

waiting, but I will NOT give up! Hey , when you get rested up

from the Michigan fight, how about helping out us poor Alabama Folks?

I've even tried the State Insurance Commission, and they sent me a

letter after two months stating that they were under the impression

that my denial was based on a policy exclusion(There is no exclusion

in my policy except that they can deny anything that they deem " not

medically necessary " ). If they deny me this time, I don't know what

else I can give them to prove medical necessity. Letters from six

doctors all stating that I need the surgery, ten years of documented

diet history, five co-morbids and a BMI of 40 and they still deny

me saying that I have not been twice my body weight for the last two

years. That is not even the Standard of Care! I'm going to send out

my sleep study info as well as the results of a medical exam stating

an additional co-morbid of extremely high cholesterol. Wish me luck.

It must be luck that decides whether or not you get an approval from these

people.

Congratulations Michigan!

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C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S !!!

That is fantastic news!

Sincerely,

Bernardine

MGB 7/24/00

> Every once in a while. . . there is a person that renews your faith

> in the human race. An angel from up above. For us Michiganders,

> that special someone is .

>

> For the past three weeks, has worked day and night, educating

> our Michigan Blue Cross Blue Shield attornys about the mistruths of

> the MGB. They had denied 9 of us at last count. There excuse. .

....

> not that we were not medically necessary.... not that we were

> excluded. . . .but that the procedure was experimental.....

>

> How does an individual fight that?

>

> If it was not for with the help of Dr. Rutledge, we

> would never have accomplished the agonizing appeal process many of

us

> we had to go through to gain approval. bypassed all that and

> went to the top.

>

> wasted no time getting to the top eschelon of BCBS. She had

> kept us abreast of each and every problem that BCBS had come up

with,

> along with the concerns they had to disapprove this procedure.

When

> BCBS had a question, had the answer right off the top of her

> head. She knows this procedure so well, she did not even have to

> think twice about the issue at hand.

>

> Three weeks and two days. . . . it seemed like a lifetime. Now the

> hard part is over. We were approved today. We are on our way to

> North Carolina.

>

> Dr. R is even giving us a Michigan Day. . .

>

> , I just want to thank you for all you have done, this comes

> from all of us. We could have never done this without you. Flo

> thank for the advice. It was the best advice I have ever taken.

> It was also the cheapest. would not take a dime for all the

> hours she spent getting us approve. We really appeciate this .

>

> Dr. Rutledge, you should really consider hiring this angel. She

> would be wonderful to work with your insurance approvals and

denials.

> And she is so experienced!!!!!

>

> Well North Carolina here we come. And . . . . were not going

> without you!!!!!!

>

>

> From the bottom of our hearts. . . .

>

> The Michigan Crew

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From the bottom of our hearts

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That is absolutely wonderful!!! Congratulations to the 9 of you who

have finally been approved!! , I hope you are on cloud nine

knowing you helped so many see a dream come to realization!! You

deserve a gold star, and then some!!!

Tricia in IL

gardiner20@... wrote:

>

> Every once in a while. . . there is a person that renews your faith

> in the human race. An angel from up above. For us Michiganders,

> that special someone is .

>

> For the past three weeks, has worked day and night, educating

> our Michigan Blue Cross Blue Shield attornys about the mistruths of

> the MGB. They had denied 9 of us at last count. There excuse. . ...

> not that we were not medically necessary.... not that we were

> excluded. . . .but that the procedure was experimental.....

>

> How does an individual fight that?

>

> If it was not for with the help of Dr. Rutledge, we

> would never have accomplished the agonizing appeal process many of us

> we had to go through to gain approval. bypassed all that and

> went to the top.

>

> wasted no time getting to the top eschelon of BCBS. She had

> kept us abreast of each and every problem that BCBS had come up with,

> along with the concerns they had to disapprove this procedure. When

> BCBS had a question, had the answer right off the top of her

> head. She knows this procedure so well, she did not even have to

> think twice about the issue at hand.

>

> Three weeks and two days. . . . it seemed like a lifetime. Now the

> hard part is over. We were approved today. We are on our way to

> North Carolina.

>

> Dr. R is even giving us a Michigan Day. . .

>

> , I just want to thank you for all you have done, this comes

> from all of us. We could have never done this without you. Flo

> thank for the advice. It was the best advice I have ever taken.

> It was also the cheapest. would not take a dime for all the

> hours she spent getting us approve. We really appeciate this .

>

> Dr. Rutledge, you should really consider hiring this angel. She

> would be wonderful to work with your insurance approvals and denials.

> And she is so experienced!!!!!

>

> Well North Carolina here we come. And . . . . were not going

> without you!!!!!!

>

> >From the bottom of our hearts. . . .

>

> The Michigan Crew

>

> >From the bottom of our hearts

>

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Wow - how wonderful!!!! Good luck to all!!! Joanne in Ohio

gardiner20@... wrote:

> Every once in a while. . . there is a person that renews your faith

> in the human race. An angel from up above. For us Michiganders,

> that special someone is .

>

> For the past three weeks, has worked day and night, educating

> our Michigan Blue Cross Blue Shield attornys about the mistruths of

> the MGB. They had denied 9 of us at last count. There excuse. . ...

> not that we were not medically necessary.... not that we were

> excluded. . . .but that the procedure was experimental.....

>

> How does an individual fight that?

>

> If it was not for with the help of Dr. Rutledge, we

> would never have accomplished the agonizing appeal process many of us

> we had to go through to gain approval. bypassed all that and

> went to the top.

>

> wasted no time getting to the top eschelon of BCBS. She had

> kept us abreast of each and every problem that BCBS had come up with,

> along with the concerns they had to disapprove this procedure. When

> BCBS had a question, had the answer right off the top of her

> head. She knows this procedure so well, she did not even have to

> think twice about the issue at hand.

>

> Three weeks and two days. . . . it seemed like a lifetime. Now the

> hard part is over. We were approved today. We are on our way to

> North Carolina.

>

> Dr. R is even giving us a Michigan Day. . .

>

> , I just want to thank you for all you have done, this comes

> from all of us. We could have never done this without you. Flo

> thank for the advice. It was the best advice I have ever taken.

> It was also the cheapest. would not take a dime for all the

> hours she spent getting us approve. We really appeciate this .

>

> Dr. Rutledge, you should really consider hiring this angel. She

> would be wonderful to work with your insurance approvals and denials.

> And she is so experienced!!!!!

>

> Well North Carolina here we come. And . . . . were not going

> without you!!!!!!

>

> >From the bottom of our hearts. . . .

>

> The Michigan Crew

>

> >From the bottom of our hearts

>

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