Question about rotating nuts

[Guest guest]

I would like to rotate the variety of nut that I use for nut flour. I am

avoiding almond flour. So, what four nuts would I use? Pecan obviously.

I have heard of other people using walnut as part of a mix of flour, but

never solo. I have not seen Macadamia nut flour. I thought that cashews

were harder to digest, so is cashew flour harder to digest?

I'm wondering, what do other people use?

Carolyn

daughter, age 10, SCD one month

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

Can you rotate pecan, cashew, filbert (hazelnut) and brazil nut?

I use mostly the almond flour, but have purchased pecan meal, cashew

meal and brazil meal all from digestive wellness. I think they

carry the hazelnut too.

I do remember cashew being a harder to digest nut as it seems to be

more starchy. Maybe you could make the cashew butter banana muffins

as a trial for the rotation with cashews, if ok with cashew butter,

then trial the cashew meal (or flour).

Are you able to use peanut butter? The peanut butter brownies and

peanut butter cake made into muffins are both yummy.

If you are able to find walnut flour, maybe it would be easier to

digest than cashew. This should give you some options.

Check out www.digestivewellness.com if you haven't ordered from them

before.

Good luck!

(temporary moderator helper)

mom to Josh, 12, Aspergers, leaky gut, SCD 19 months

[Guest guest]

Gertrude,

Thank you, I learned something today. I knew peanuts were in the

legume family, but I had no idea that cashews were. That may explain

why they seem to be more starchy than others...?

I tend to make a few things with peanut butter, just for the cost

savings, even though it isn't a real " nut " .

Have a wonderful day!

[Guest guest]

,

Cashews I feel are waaaay more starchy then peanuts, and peanuts are a better

choice over them, especially the first year of SCD. I can tolerate peanut butter

much better than cashews at this point, and I have been on the diet 19 months.

Some people, overall, have troubles digesting legumes. Peas, peanuts, and

cashews do not agree with me, but it really Depends on the person. If I recall

correctly, Elaine said cashews were not to be introduced until significant gut

healing has taken place, I believe because of the starch, but don't quote me on

it.

You have a good one too!

Summer

dljalundy31 wrote:

Gertrude,

Thank you, I learned something today. I knew peanuts were in the

legume family, but I had no idea that cashews were. That may explain

why they seem to be more starchy than others...?

I tend to make a few things with peanut butter, just for the cost

savings, even though it isn't a real " nut " .

Have a wonderful day!

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[Guest guest]

Summer,

I love reading your posts and learn so much, but I have to

respectfully disagree on this. I tend to be Queen Obsesso Science

Nerd sometimes and for two years I have practically memorized food

families as I tried to rotate my son's diet. I had to restudy the

info everytime new hives came up, make new charts and menus, etc etc.

Peanuts (a legume) and cashews (the seed of the cashew apple) are in

totally different orders and families:

Order Roasales

Pea Family

subfamily papilionoidea

Peanut

(other legumes such as garbanzo, soy, etc here too)

Order Salpindales

Cashew Family

Cashew

Mango

Pistachio

Janet, mom to Cody- SCD 1 week, 2 days - multi food allergies

>

> Both peanuts and cashews are technically not nuts, but legumes.

>

[Guest guest]

you are right Janet, however cashews are considerably more starchy the other

nuts. They have a lower level of fat and higher level of carbohydrate and a

good amount of starch

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Question about rotating nuts

>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:44:54 -0000

>

>Summer,

>I love reading your posts and learn so much, but I have to

>respectfully disagree on this. I tend to be Queen Obsesso Science

>Nerd sometimes and for two years I have practically memorized food

>families as I tried to rotate my son's diet. I had to restudy the

>info everytime new hives came up, make new charts and menus, etc etc.

>

>Peanuts (a legume) and cashews (the seed of the cashew apple) are in

>totally different orders and families:

>

>Order Roasales

> Pea Family

> subfamily papilionoidea

> Peanut

> (other legumes such as garbanzo, soy, etc here too)

>

>Order Salpindales

> Cashew Family

> Cashew

> Mango

> Pistachio

>

> Janet, mom to Cody- SCD 1 week, 2 days - multi food allergies

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Both peanuts and cashews are technically not nuts, but legumes.

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

That is good to know so I can go easy on them w/ Cody.

Thanks!

Janet, mom to Cody- multi food allergies- SCD since 4-17-06

>

> you are right Janet, however cashews are considerably more starchy

the other

> nuts. They have a lower level of fat and higher level of

carbohydrate and a

> good amount of starch

[Guest guest]

Janet,

It's alright, you don't have to respectfully disagree, just right out say

Summer you are WRONG! lol Thanks for the information!!! See, this is a good

example, always verify information from internet nuts!

Summer

all4mytwo wrote:

Summer,

I love reading your posts and learn so much, but I have to

respectfully disagree on this. I tend to be Queen Obsesso Science

Nerd sometimes and for two years I have practically memorized food

families as I tried to rotate my son's diet. I had to restudy the

info everytime new hives came up, make new charts and menus, etc etc.

Peanuts (a legume) and cashews (the seed of the cashew apple) are in

totally different orders and families:

Order Roasales

Pea Family

subfamily papilionoidea

Peanut

(other legumes such as garbanzo, soy, etc here too)

Order Salpindales

Cashew Family

Cashew

Mango

Pistachio

Janet, mom to Cody- SCD 1 week, 2 days - multi food allergies

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[Guest guest]

I came across something that said that peas contained lactose, and I

did a search and found the following, which may be more plausible.

This was the night that BJ had a difficult time falling asleep -

uncommon for him. He had eaten a large bowl of peas at dinner.

http://www.wegmans.com/eatwelllivewell/foodAllergies/notalike.asp

" Some lactose-intolerant people may not be able to tolerate

raffinose, a sugar found in beets, green peas, lima beans, chick peas

(garbanzos) and molasses. "

With a little research I found that cashews have a toxic liquid that

needs to be separated when the nuts are cracked open. Cashews used

to be called " blister nuts " . You have to wonder if all the toxins

are removed from the nuts.

http://www.thenutfactory.com/kitchen/facts/facts-cashews.html

BTW peanuts cause me tinnitus (ringing in the ears).

I find cross reactions fascinating.

Sue B, BJ SCD 11 months

> Some people, overall, have troubles digesting legumes. Peas,

peanuts, and cashews do not agree with me, but it really Depends on

the person. If I recall correctly, Elaine said cashews were not to be

introduced until significant gut healing has taken place, I believe

because of the starch, but don't quote me on it.

[Guest guest]

I came across something that said that peas contained lactose, and I

did a search and found the following, which may be more plausible.

This was the night that BJ had a difficult time falling asleep -

uncommon for him. He had eaten a large bowl of peas at dinner.

http://www.wegmans.com/eatwelllivewell/foodAllergies/notalike.asp

" Some lactose-intolerant people may not be able to tolerate

raffinose, a sugar found in beets, green peas, lima beans, chick peas

(garbanzos) and molasses. "

With a little research I found that cashews have a toxic liquid that

needs to be separated when the nuts are cracked open. Cashews used

to be called " blister nuts " . You have to wonder if all the toxins

are removed from the nuts.

http://www.thenutfactory.com/kitchen/facts/facts-cashews.html

BTW peanuts cause me tinnitus (ringing in the ears).

I find cross reactions fascinating.

Sue B, BJ SCD 11 months

> Some people, overall, have troubles digesting legumes. Peas,

peanuts, and cashews do not agree with me, but it really Depends on

the person. If I recall correctly, Elaine said cashews were not to be

introduced until significant gut healing has taken place, I believe

because of the starch, but don't quote me on it.

[Guest guest]

>http://www.wegmans.com/eatwelllivewell/foodAllergies/notalike.asp

> " Some lactose-intolerant people may not be able to tolerate

>raffinose, a sugar found in beets, green peas, lima beans, chick peas

>(garbanzos) and molasses. "

interesting because I cannot tolerate any of these foods

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[Guest guest]

Janet,

Thank you for sharing your knowledge about this with all of us. I

do remember rotation diet that lasted about 5 months for my son

before we found SCD. I remember the nightmares of making the food

charts and planning meals for him. I had no interest in looking it

up to confirm as I have put the rotation thing far far away and

doing SCD there is no looking back. So I may have gone forward

thinking that cashews were a legume possibly. Now, I'm back on the

right track. It's always good to learn something new! I know those

of you who are rotating nuts have a good reason to do so. I decided

not to do it unless is seemed necessary. And so far it's not

bothering my son, and I am pleased as he is eating healthier than he

has ever in his life, thanks to SCD! This in turn is making our

entire family eat better. I got a kick out of your Queen Obsesso

Science Nerd title!!!

mom to Josh, 12, Aspergers, leaky gut, SCD 19 months

[Guest guest]

,

I am also going to try not using a strict rotation diet with SCD so

it's really encouraging to hear that it's working for someone else. I

did order a variety of nut flours from Digestive Wellness and I will

try to avoid feeding Cody too much of any one kind (esp. almond as I

read the posts!) Plus I am trying to minimize the nut goodies in

general as recommended on the list. I think his major problem is with

digesting the illegal carbs. I have never seen him so symptom free

since about 4 months old before the antibiotic nightmare, eczema,

allergies, etc. began! The funny thing is that his Immunolabs tests

showed high IgG reactions to nuts, bananas, pumpkin, squashes, etc

that he's eating now and said that oats, rye, barley, rice, etc were

fine even though he had positive celiac markers and visible hives and

wheezing from the grains. I have decided to forgo the allergy tests

this year and just see how he does w/ SCD for a while.

Janet, mom to:

Cody- almost 5 yrs old- SCD since 4-17-06- multifood allergies

>

> Janet,

> Thank you for sharing your knowledge about this with all of us. I

> do remember rotation diet that lasted about 5 months for my son

> before we found SCD.....

[Guest guest]

LOL- Summer, you are a hoot!

And, , I agree cashews seem to be more of a problem food.

My asthma and allergy filled family grew up with tons of peanut

butter with no problem but both of my sisters and my mom get very

ill from cashews and walnuts.

But, even weirder is that cashew and poison ivy and poison oak are

all in the same family, but my sisters and mom don't break out if

they are exposed to poison oak or ivy.

Food families are a weird and complex thing- hey, kinda like my own

family!

Janet, mom to:

Cody- SCD since 4-17-06- multi food allergies- almost 5 yrs old

>

> funny enough, I still agree regardless that peanuts are easier to

digest

> than cashews, I do fine with small amounts of peanut butter, but

terribly

> with cashews, almost to the point of having an actual allergy to

them