Re: Re:Labs/ asymptomatic hubby

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Janet wrote: " My hubby is 29 yrs old, excellent health and shape. Had his

blood

analyzed and it was beautiful- even the ND had no suggestions for

him except to try enzymes when he ate a lot of meat. He pretty much

eats whatever I cook and then while he's working will pick up fast

food now and then for a change. He'll even drink a little carrot

juice for me occasionally SCD hasn't been too much of a change

for us since we were down to only 2 grains my son could have anyway

and then they caused problems. If anything we've added back in more

variety for him (nut flours and eggs and bananas and pumpkin) so

that is good! "

I'm wondering about this subject of testing in light of my own quest to get to

the bottom of our health issues.

Could it be that a biopsy that reveals a damaged gut could also be a damaged

gut and not necessarily celiac? I mean, we are talking about damaged guts here

a lot. Many of us haven't had biopsies. in fact, a lot of people with

dysbiosis would just do a special diet and treatments for bacteria, yeast, what

have you. They wouldn't go in for a celiac test. Then these people, after

getting better might introduce gluten back into their diet. They might be fine

with that.

For myself and my son, we seem fairly atypcial of celiac. Sure, he is small

for his age, but so am I. Malasorption could be the issue but that might not

mean he is a Celiac. Somehow I have it in my mind that Celiac Disease is

serious whereas dysbiosis, which leads to malabsorption, isn't so dire.

As for non-diagnosed Celiac leading to autoimmue disorders...well we just

don't know for every single person. some people will...perhaps a lot...and some

might just be down right okay. Not everyone has a problem with gluten, even if

they have dysbiosis, gut damage etc. Perhaps my son's gut damage isn't that

extensive. Perhaps he would do fine on enzymes and a regular diet...I don't

know. I'm a little nervous to try that now, but some people have done fine

leaving SCD and just using enzymes.

As for Janet's hubbie doing great, there's a lot of factors that play into

health. If we all did SCD with a bad attitude and didn't get out and enjoy

ourselves, we probably wouldn't do as well as we would if we had a great

attitude, didn't get too upset about infractions, were joyful about the process

and included lots of sunshine, exercise and passion on our paths to wellness.

That's been the key for me. Perhaps, for instance, my chronic sinus infection

years ago, was due to yeast. But I got rid of my chronic sinus infection with

determination, loads of vitamin C and a Netty pot. I don't suffer anymore. In

fact, I feel more sick when I don't exercise, don't eat, and don't meditate.

What I'm aiming at here, is that we need to be joyful about feeling good. I

struggle with this concept myself. I want to have the feeling that everything

will be okay...which is reality (in my opinion) but I have this pull, like a

desire in a way, to believe that there's something horrible happening to my son

and to myself and to my mother. And that if I don't adhere to this diet, or do

enzymes, or find the right doc, that all will come crashing down and my son will

end up with an autoimmune disorder.

Waht I find so helpful on here, are the little triumphants that people post.

They are guideposts. Life is just that, up and down. I strive to walk the

middle ground with it all, which ain't always easy.

I cheer for your hubbie who feels good about his body and feels safe in this

world. I want to get back to that place because I know how it feels. Been

there, done that.

Thank you. I learn so much from you people.

gwen

luca-3

scd 2 months for digestive issues

" Today a new sun rises for me; everything lives,

everything is animated, everything seems to speak

to me of my passion, everything invites me to cherish it. "

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As I see it the issue with just relying on enzyme is it stll makes your body

work hard, and eventually it wears out

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Re:Labs/ asymptomatic hubby

>Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:58:56 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Janet wrote: " My hubby is 29 yrs old, excellent health and shape. Had his

>blood

>analyzed and it was beautiful- even the ND had no suggestions for

>him except to try enzymes when he ate a lot of meat. He pretty much

>eats whatever I cook and then while he's working will pick up fast

>food now and then for a change. He'll even drink a little carrot

>juice for me occasionally SCD hasn't been too much of a change

>for us since we were down to only 2 grains my son could have anyway

>and then they caused problems. If anything we've added back in more

>variety for him (nut flours and eggs and bananas and pumpkin) so

>that is good! "

>

>

>

> I'm wondering about this subject of testing in light of my own quest to

>get to the bottom of our health issues.

>

> Could it be that a biopsy that reveals a damaged gut could also be a

>damaged gut and not necessarily celiac? I mean, we are talking about

>damaged guts here a lot. Many of us haven't had biopsies. in fact, a lot

>of people with dysbiosis would just do a special diet and treatments for

>bacteria, yeast, what have you. They wouldn't go in for a celiac test.

>Then these people, after getting better might introduce gluten back into

>their diet. They might be fine with that.

>

> For myself and my son, we seem fairly atypcial of celiac. Sure, he is

>small for his age, but so am I. Malasorption could be the issue but that

>might not mean he is a Celiac. Somehow I have it in my mind that Celiac

>Disease is serious whereas dysbiosis, which leads to malabsorption, isn't

>so dire.

>

> As for non-diagnosed Celiac leading to autoimmue disorders...well we

>just don't know for every single person. some people will...perhaps a

>lot...and some might just be down right okay. Not everyone has a problem

>with gluten, even if they have dysbiosis, gut damage etc. Perhaps my son's

>gut damage isn't that extensive. Perhaps he would do fine on enzymes and a

>regular diet...I don't know. I'm a little nervous to try that now, but

>some people have done fine leaving SCD and just using enzymes.

>

> As for Janet's hubbie doing great, there's a lot of factors that play

>into health. If we all did SCD with a bad attitude and didn't get out and

>enjoy ourselves, we probably wouldn't do as well as we would if we had a

>great attitude, didn't get too upset about infractions, were joyful about

>the process and included lots of sunshine, exercise and passion on our

>paths to wellness. That's been the key for me. Perhaps, for instance, my

>chronic sinus infection years ago, was due to yeast. But I got rid of my

>chronic sinus infection with determination, loads of vitamin C and a Netty

>pot. I don't suffer anymore. In fact, I feel more sick when I don't

>exercise, don't eat, and don't meditate.

>

> What I'm aiming at here, is that we need to be joyful about feeling

>good. I struggle with this concept myself. I want to have the feeling

>that everything will be okay...which is reality (in my opinion) but I have

>this pull, like a desire in a way, to believe that there's something

>horrible happening to my son and to myself and to my mother. And that if I

>don't adhere to this diet, or do enzymes, or find the right doc, that all

>will come crashing down and my son will end up with an autoimmune disorder.

>

> Waht I find so helpful on here, are the little triumphants that people

>post. They are guideposts. Life is just that, up and down. I strive to

>walk the middle ground with it all, which ain't always easy.

>

> I cheer for your hubbie who feels good about his body and feels safe in

>this world. I want to get back to that place because I know how it feels.

>Been there, done that.

>

> Thank you. I learn so much from you people.

>

> gwen

> luca-3

> scd 2 months for digestive issues

>

>

>

>

> " Today a new sun rises for me; everything lives,

>everything is animated, everything seems to speak

>to me of my passion, everything invites me to cherish it. "

>

>--Anne de Lenclos--

>

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