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I am just not sure about this. I understand even after removing the

SCD foods and the doing the inro and all- we are watching for food

intolerances as we intro new foods, but what are we watching for?

Diarrhea, constipation, hyperness, what? Is there any dead give-aways?

When my son was on milk, wheat, etc. he would get spaced out and

sometimes before SCD without no-phenol I would notice some red cheeks

(not every time) with apples or something. Is that all I look for?

What else? This is very confusing.

Some days seem to just be better than others and I find myslef trying

to attach a food to any off behavior, etc. - when maybe that's not

it!?!

Any advice appreciated,

Laurie

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i remember those early days well. . . sort of confusing guesswork. i

hope you are keeping a good log of new foods and behaviors. i would

question any unusual behaviors and stool appearence & frequency,

physical discomfort and physical changes. i always would recommend a

new food be introduced with a very small portion until you know if

it is a food not tolerated. this isnt alway easy especially in the

beginning when there arent too many foods to pick from . as you get

further along in the diet it is safer to go slow with small

portions.

donna

>

> I am just not sure about this. I understand even after removing

the

> SCD foods and the doing the inro and all- we are watching for food

> intolerances as we intro new foods, but what are we watching for?

>

> Diarrhea, constipation, hyperness, what? Is there any dead give-

aways?

> When my son was on milk, wheat, etc. he would get spaced out and

> sometimes before SCD without no-phenol I would notice some red

cheeks

> (not every time) with apples or something. Is that all I look for?

> What else? This is very confusing.

>

> Some days seem to just be better than others and I find myslef

trying

> to attach a food to any off behavior, etc. - when maybe that's not

> it!?!

>

> Any advice appreciated,

> Laurie

>

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Dear Laurie,

My gut became so damaged I became " intolerant " or sensitive to just about

everything. No joke. This is why I didn't have those expensive tests done. It

was obviously gluten and dairy...but food in general was becoming a problem.

What was I to do...cut out food. I am not joking here. My Celiac became this

bad!

Remember that Elaine told us that unless it causes severe reaction or

anaphylaxis to go a head and eat a well balanced diet, without so much fear.

Don't worry so much, because as we heal our guts the SCD way with " fanatical

adherence " to her ways and not others, that we will heal out of most of these

sensitivities. Thank the lord!

Because we are now on two months plus and going strong. We just where able to

put in the nut flours! We made waffles and they where soooooo good! We are

also able to eat un cooked and raw fruit with no distressing symptoms. Just in

two months this much healing!

Backed off the goat yogurt...but will add this back too, in a while. I think

Elaine was trying to tell us that nothing needs to be removed permanently (as

long as it doesn't cause deadly reaction), and it is SCD safe.

These where our symptoms of sensitivity/or not being ready to eat a food yet:

a.. returned diarrhea

b.. gas and bloating

c.. cramping

d.. Sometimes it seemed to cause behavior problems

These are the symptoms we had of Die Off:

a.. irritability

b.. rage attacks

c.. sleep disturbance

d.. nausea and dizziness

e.. feeling toxic

Everyone is different. Remember when the gut heals the behavior problems vanish

or are better delt with. Because these odd sensitivities vanish or lessen as

the immune system heals with the healing gut.

Hope this helps and gives you hope and motivation to continue the SCDiet

Elaine's way. We have not had much success with enzymes...make us sick. So

trying to figure out what to do about those.

Elaine said that we wouldn't need them anyway once the gut heals. This is why

she never promoted them. So many have healed without them following her advice.

Talk to Lucy R at Lucy's Kitchen she will testify to this and she almost died!

Elaine's SCD saved her...so many out there who have been saved without enzymes.

Protease kept my intestines RAW! Ask Lucy about this one too. I urge you to

call her. Her number is in back of BTVC book...or e-mail her from her web site.

Sincerely, Antoinette

(2 mo SCD entire family thanks to Celiac disease/malabsorption that caused ASD

problems in all of us...just because of our damaged guts and healing for the

first time the SCD way)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

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Laurie,

Oh yes, I have the same questions myself. We never tested for food

intolerances and I'm relunctant to do so. I do notice that I feel better now

that I'm off wheat and lactose but it wasn't immediate. I have a pain on my

side sometimes after eating nuts or other foods. I think this is one symptom.

In a child it is harder to tell.

Laurie wrote:

I am just not sure about this. I understand even after removing the

SCD foods and the doing the inro and all- we are watching for food

intolerances as we intro new foods, but what are we watching for?

I would say you will definately look for diarrhea and/or perhaps

constipation though less likely...I'm no expert. Look for undigested foods in

stool. Those foods would be the ones the child is not tolerating well at the

time. Behavioral yes, but be careful not to over interpret as food related.

Some days seem to just be better than others and I find myslef trying

to attach a food to any off behavior, etc. - when maybe that's not

it!?!

Yes, I did this too. My child is seeming so gregarious these days.

Is it a coicidence that I just added enzymes or are they really the cause of his

change from being a little tentative and unsure to be outgoing? Or could it be

that he is almost three and this is pretty normal " turning three " behavior.

He's more sure of himself in space and time. He's not a baby anymore and

doesn't need to have me in eyeshot to feel safe.

My child also has temper tantrums. Is it a food intolerance? I could easily go

down that path but I have to be careful. One thing, I rage, so he's learned to

deal with his anger from me. Two, he's a toddler. Three, he's tired...over

tired, overstimulated and, yes, probably hungry because of all the stimulation

taking his attention away from eating.

I think it's good that you asked this question. I think it's important for us

to relax with our child's behaviors. We need to know what is perfectly normal

and what is down right correlated to diet. I think we also would benefit from

guidelines on what to look for in terms of food intolerances. It's so hard to

do when it isn't our bodies that we are dealing with but someone else's body. I

think that is why so many of rely on the look, smell and consistency of our

children's poops.

Try and take a deep breath. Healing will come. Keep asking questions of

this forum and of yourself.

Warmly,

gwen

luca-3

SCD 2 months second time around for digestive issues.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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These tests for food intolerances are not needed if one adheres to the strictest

SCD diet. I have learned from those who knew her well that, Elaine did not like

them and thought them to be a waste of money too. So I am not alone here.

Many a DAN! doctor wants you to do these tests....but what he/she may not

realize is that eating a strict SCDiet the gut heals out of such intolerances!

So why do the tests...if in a year you can eat what ever you want on the SCDiet?

There for I conclude that the tests are a waste of time and money! One year

into the SCDiet and the test would come back looking like the person had no more

intolerances!

But if one does not adhere to the magic of the SCDiet...and cheats or eats other

ways.....yes these problems will continue because the " vicious cycle " has not

been broken. Making it appear that these tests are wonderful...until you have

taken everything out of the diet...your poor child is starving...with only a

hand full of things to eat.

Try to follow what Elaine said in her BTVC book. To only take out foods that

cause anaphylactic reaction, or cause the most severe distress. For

anaphylactic reactions take it out forever. For the other try again in a

few/three months.

Wait to see the miracle, stop cheating if you maybe doing this...and have

" fanatical adherence " and heal out of these stressful problems...that will

VANISH! Be it phenols, oxalates, casein....the list goes on....you see God

didn't want us to be restricted to just eating dirt and water...and either did

Elaine. The SCDiet is expensive, save your money to buy SCD safe foods.

The other thing goofy with these tests is that they do not test for the T cell

response that Elaine spoke of in her book being the CAUSE of sensitivity to

foods. Not being caused by a IgG,IgA and IgE immune reaction!

You see the food intolerance tests only check for the IgG and IgA, skin tests

only check IgE....so how can they work in light of this information. So you are

bound to get many false negatives and false positives.

Look at us we are all celiac...biopsy approved. Our blood claimed that we are

IgG and IgA negative to gluten! If we eat gluten...with a damaged gut...we get

SICK, even a painful gluten related rash called Dermatitis Herpetiformis! You

see it's a T cell response!!! This is the case with most of us who have a

vicious cycle going! Especially our ASD kids. So beware of expensive tests.

2 mo+ and already showing signs of healing out of " sensitivity and allergies to

foods.....it works it truly does. Talk to those who have more time. They will

tell you. All these testimonies can not be lying.

It takes time to heal though so be patient.

Sincerely, Antoinette Re: Food intolerances...what am I looking for?

Laurie,

Oh yes, I have the same questions myself. We never tested for food

intolerances and I'm relunctant to do so. I do notice that I feel better now

that I'm off wheat and lactose but it wasn't immediate. I have a pain on my

side sometimes after eating nuts or other foods. I think this is one symptom.

In a child it is harder to tell.

Laurie wrote:

I am just not sure about this. I understand even after removing the

SCD foods and the doing the inro and all- we are watching for food

intolerances as we intro new foods, but what are we watching for?

I would say you will definately look for diarrhea and/or perhaps

constipation though less likely...I'm no expert. Look for undigested foods in

stool. Those foods would be the ones the child is not tolerating well at the

time. Behavioral yes, but be careful not to over interpret as food related.

Some days seem to just be better than others and I find myslef trying

to attach a food to any off behavior, etc. - when maybe that's not

it!?!

Yes, I did this too. My child is seeming so gregarious these days.

Is it a coicidence that I just added enzymes or are they really the cause of his

change from being a little tentative and unsure to be outgoing? Or could it be

that he is almost three and this is pretty normal " turning three " behavior.

He's more sure of himself in space and time. He's not a baby anymore and

doesn't need to have me in eyeshot to feel safe.

My child also has temper tantrums. Is it a food intolerance? I could easily

go down that path but I have to be careful. One thing, I rage, so he's learned

to deal with his anger from me. Two, he's a toddler. Three, he's tired...over

tired, overstimulated and, yes, probably hungry because of all the stimulation

taking his attention away from eating.

I think it's good that you asked this question. I think it's important for

us to relax with our child's behaviors. We need to know what is perfectly

normal and what is down right correlated to diet. I think we also would benefit

from guidelines on what to look for in terms of food intolerances. It's so hard

to do when it isn't our bodies that we are dealing with but someone else's body.

I think that is why so many of rely on the look, smell and consistency of our

children's poops.

Try and take a deep breath. Healing will come. Keep asking questions of

this forum and of yourself.

Warmly,

gwen

luca-3

SCD 2 months second time around for digestive issues.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

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Antoinette-

It is wonderful you and your family are doing so well with this diet.

While I completely agree with you about the food intolerance issues

being just the result of " leaky gut " , I think it is not fair to make

generalizations about DAN doctors not realizing or understanding the

SCDiet. I believe you are new to all of this and the DAN movement,

having just had your first appts with a DAN, right?

Several DAN's, particularly the good ones, are well aware of SCD,

especially if they have been keeping up with the most recent

conferences. In addition, many DAN's are they themselves parents of ASD

kids, and are just as motivated to help their child are we are ours.

SCD is not however the magic bullet for everyone, I don't believe any of

the things we do for our kids is the " right thing " across the board for

all kids. Each recovered child has his/her own unique path to

recovery... be it ABA, GFCF, chelation, homeopathy or SCD.

My own DAN in a very well known practice had his whole family on SCD for

a year. The benefits for their son peaked at 9 months and they stuck

with it another 3 with no changes. So they went back to GFCF with no

problems and greater variety. While I believe this diet has tremendous

benefit for many of our children, I doubt it will cure them. Not the

majority at least. There are many, many more issue with our kids than

the gut issues, and while SCD may be a big puzzle piece, it is hardly

the whole puzzle.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

SCD 8 wks

>

> Many a DAN! doctor wants you to do these tests....but what he/she may

not

> realize is that eating a strict SCDiet the gut heals out of such

> intolerances! So why do the tests...if in a year you can eat what

ever

> you want on the SCDiet?

>

> There for I conclude that the tests are a waste of time and money!

One

> year into the SCDiet and the test would come back looking like the

person

> had no more intolerances!

>

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