Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Dr. R., This is just a solution and I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, but what if you set stricter guide lines for approval? I know on your site there is a particular weight limit and BMI limit. Are all these patients inside that realm? Are to many acceptions being made? Just asking. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Are there no other surgeons in the US doing MGB? Could some patients be referred to another Dr. in another region or something? Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Dr. Rutledge, I would like to second the idea of charging more for the " surgeon " part of the procedure and apply this to employing someone to do only insurance claims. I know that Debbie and Barbara must be totally overwhelmed with all they have to do. I myself have talked with them several times to ask questions and get their views on different things. I didn't realize they were responsible for insurance claims also. I am a self pay patient so this does not effect my surgery, but I cannot imagine what all the others must be feeling right now. I know that I look at this at my chance to get my life back. If I thought that I were going to lose this chance I would be so devastated I would not be able to speak. Please try and come to a solution that does not exclude anyone from having this chance at life. I know you will do your best. Sincerely, Debbie Acord See you at clinic on Tues. Aug. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Hi, Even if we come up with a " solution " to the insurance issue we still need some way to allow some patients to get the surgery and turn others down. I received 22 new patient information forms today! I need some fair and equitable method of selecting patients. RR Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S. The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery 4301 Ben lin Blvd. Durham, N.C. 27704 Telephone #: Fax #: Email: DrR@... ************************************************ Please Visit our Web site: http://clos.net ************************************************ Durham Regional Hospital: Also, Please consider joining the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at http://www.onelist.com MiniGastricBypass is a general discussion of the Mini-Gastric Bypass ( http://www.onelist.com/community/MiniGastricBypass ) Talk with lots of other Pre and Post Op patients and friends. Keep up to date on the latest news about the Mini-Gastric Bypass. Dr. Rutledge > Dr. Rutledge, > I would like to second the idea of charging more for the " surgeon " > part of the procedure and apply this to employing someone to do only > insurance claims. I know that Debbie and Barbara must be totally > overwhelmed with all they have to do. I myself have talked with them > several times to ask questions and get their views on different > things. I didn't realize they were responsible for insurance claims > also. > I am a self pay patient so this does not effect my surgery, but I > cannot imagine what all the others must be feeling right now. I know > that I look at this at my chance to get my life back. If I thought > that I were going to lose this chance I would be so devastated I > would not be able to speak. Please try and come to a solution that > does not exclude anyone from having this chance at life. > I know you will do your best. > Sincerely, > Debbie Acord > See you at clinic on Tues. Aug. 1 > > > > > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Dr R, I don't know how you do it in the world of medicine,BUT in business world,when we have too many calls,WE STOP THE AD!Maybe you could close the site down for a while(everyone hit print),and hire a nurse to answer questions and guide those who already know about it,works well at the pediatricians,esp w/ new Moms.I also think it's a good idea to consider switching from a clinic to pre-op appts for ins approved only.IF,that would take less of your time.You need to be performing surgery not answering email and monitoring us.And you definitely don't need to be getting the word out,IF your goal is to slow the rate of prospective patients.BTW LET GO,a little,you'll live longer. Janet ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 In a message dated 7/29/2000 10:01:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ybuzzy@... writes: > > Why not do fewer surgeries per week and take some time to smell the roses? > I > have been planning on waiting until Fall for surgery and I am sure that > everyone > else on the list would be willing to wait a few months if this ensures that > we > can still get the surgery. I've been fat for 25 years, a few more months > makes > little difference and, frankly, I would rather be patient 1 to 4 or 5 as > opposed > to 9 on your 3rd or 4th surgery day of the week!! I am not, in any way, > questioning your skill or competence but no one can operate by rote on so > many > patients day after day and not lose of of their edge - rest, please. We > will > wait. Joanne in Ohio I totally agree.. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 I totally agree!! I think the reason that the insurance people in your office can't keep up is because you are doing too many surgeries per week!! Everyone, you and your patients will be better off if you slow down a little! I have always worried that it is made to sound attractive that you can do the surgery in 30 minutes and do 9 per day - way too many to my way of thinking! You are not a machine and must be exhausted at the end of a day like that. Every one of us out here wants the surgery, we want to be healthy and thin and if you risk your own health and well being by burning out we may never be able to have the surgery that could change our lives. Why not do fewer surgeries per week and take some time to smell the roses? I have been planning on waiting until Fall for surgery and I am sure that everyone else on the list would be willing to wait a few months if this ensures that we can still get the surgery. I've been fat for 25 years, a few more months makes little difference and, frankly, I would rather be patient 1 to 4 or 5 as opposed to 9 on your 3rd or 4th surgery day of the week!! I am not, in any way, questioning your skill or competence but no one can operate by rote on so many patients day after day and not lose of of their edge - rest, please. We will wait. Joanne in Ohio Janet Whitaker wrote: > Dr R, I don't know how you do it in the world of medicine,BUT in > business world,when we have too many calls,WE STOP THE AD!Maybe you could > close the site down for a while(everyone hit print),and hire a nurse to > answer questions and guide those who already know about it,works well at the > pediatricians,esp w/ new Moms.I also think it's a good idea to consider > switching from a clinic to pre-op appts for ins approved only.IF,that would > take less of your time.You need to be performing surgery not answering email > and monitoring us.And you definitely don't need to be getting the word > out,IF your goal is to slow the rate of prospective patients.BTW LET GO,a > little,you'll live longer. Janet > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 Thank you, Holly. Joanne in Ohio happygirl0925@... wrote: > In a message dated 7/29/2000 10:01:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > ybuzzy@... writes: > > > > > Why not do fewer surgeries per week and take some time to smell the roses? > > > I > > have been planning on waiting until Fall for surgery and I am sure that > > everyone > > else on the list would be willing to wait a few months if this ensures > that > > we > > can still get the surgery. I've been fat for 25 years, a few more months > > makes > > little difference and, frankly, I would rather be patient 1 to 4 or 5 as > > opposed > > to 9 on your 3rd or 4th surgery day of the week!! I am not, in any way, > > questioning your skill or competence but no one can operate by rote on so > > many > > patients day after day and not lose of of their edge - rest, please. We > > will > > wait. Joanne in Ohio > I totally agree.. > Holly > > > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2000 Report Share Posted July 30, 2000 Dr. R, I still feel the seriousness of a patients health should be the deciding factor. You might set up a chart and the persons that qualified would have to have 4 of the co-morbidities listed the qualify. Of course, you would have to make the chart of co- morbidities and decide of the number needed to qualify. This would eliminate some people who need the surgery, just not quite as badly as some of the other people. Kind of like waiting for a heart transplant. Just a thought. Dinah in Alabama > Hi, > > Even if we come up with a " solution " to the insurance issue we still need > some way to allow some patients to get the surgery and turn others down. > > I received 22 new patient information forms today! > > I need some fair and equitable method of selecting patients. > > RR > > Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S. > The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery > 4301 Ben lin Blvd. > Durham, N.C. 27704 > Telephone #: > Fax #: > Email: DrR@c... > > ************************************************ > Please Visit our Web site: http://clos.net > ************************************************ > > Durham Regional Hospital: > > Also, Please consider joining the > Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List > at http://www.onelist.com > > MiniGastricBypass is a general discussion of the Mini-Gastric Bypass > ( http://www.onelist.com/community/MiniGastricBypass ) > > Talk with lots of other Pre and Post Op > patients and friends. > Keep up to date on the latest news about > the Mini-Gastric Bypass. > Dr. Rutledge > > > > Dr. Rutledge, > > I would like to second the idea of charging more for the " surgeon " > > part of the procedure and apply this to employing someone to do only > > insurance claims. I know that Debbie and Barbara must be totally > > overwhelmed with all they have to do. I myself have talked with them > > several times to ask questions and get their views on different > > things. I didn't realize they were responsible for insurance claims > > also. > > I am a self pay patient so this does not effect my surgery, but I > > cannot imagine what all the others must be feeling right now. I know > > that I look at this at my chance to get my life back. If I thought > > that I were going to lose this chance I would be so devastated I > > would not be able to speak. Please try and come to a solution that > > does not exclude anyone from having this chance at life. > > I know you will do your best. > > Sincerely, > > Debbie Acord > > See you at clinic on Tues. Aug. 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > > > To Unsubscribe Send and Email to: > MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2000 Report Share Posted July 30, 2000 Yes, maybe require a higher bmi than 40? Dinah > Dr. R., > This is just a solution and I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, but > what if you set stricter guide lines for approval? I know on your site there > is a particular weight limit and BMI limit. Are all these patients inside > that realm? Are to many acceptions being made? > Just asking. > Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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