Re: Back to Intro questions

[Guest guest]

When we did the intro, we only used fresh pressed garlic. No other

spices. We did this for 10 days since are intestines where KNOWN to

be so damaged that we trusted no other. It was not fun doing this

for so long. But we are now reaping the benifits. We killed many

bad gut guys that week plus. IT is personal choice how long you

want to do this. Dr. Haas and Elaine say when the diarrhea

ends...but you said you have no more diarrhea. So it is up to you.

Remember that what the body can not digest still can do harm. We

still can not eat dry SCD cooked beans, and whole nuts, and things

that are hard to digest. They cause gas and fermentation

still...with KiKI diarrhea come back.

And then we repopulated the gut with that wonderful 24 hour SCD

yogurt and SCD acidolphilus. A yogurt of some kind will be needed.

Remember that the casein is rendered harmless in a 24 hour batch of

SCD yogurt. WE too where casein free...doing fine with this. YEAH!@!

We also had success doing what Elaine said and using less honey

cutting it down to 1/3. I wouldn't suggest cutting it completely

out if you have a " skinny " problem like we did. This helped to

reassure that our kids where getting enough carbohydrate. KiKI

could not afford to loose anymore weight. She showed no ill signs

from this. Her DIE OFF WAS STILL HUGE even with a treat of honey.

We told our son (since he likes variety too) that this is what the

doctor ordered. When he would complain, we had it lined up for one

of my friends to talk to him on the phone, as the " doctor " , telling

him that he needed to do this so his gut would heal. THis helped

him to comply better. He stopped complaining because he didn't want

to talk to the " doctor " .

His " pot belly " is gone for the first time since he was THREE MONTHS

OLD. He is no longer FERMENTING undigested food and bad gut guys!

Beware of Die off, if you have it. Also remember Acitvated Charcoal

works well if signs of die off come.

Antoinette (Much success with fanatical adherance to the SCDiet 2+

months entire family of five)

>

> We are going back to square one here and I wondered a couple of

things:

>

> 1. What spices can I use or do you suggest to season intro meats

with?

> My son does not like bland (my other son does), so any ideas that

are

> legal for seasonings for turkey, chicken and the chicken soup are

> appreciated.

>

> 2. Also, am I NOT using honey on the intro for like the homemade

> jello, etc?

>

> 3. Is 3 days between new foods long enough usually or should I

wait

> longer? Our diarrhea has been gone since going from GFCF to GFCFSF

and

> sugar free.

>

> Ok, I think that's it!?! I would appreciate anyone else's

suggestions

> about intro menu items as I know this will get old with him QUICK!

He

> is variety kind of dude.

>

> Thanks,

> Laurie` IBS/ gall bladder; mom to Ally 10, Chase 3 (chronic

> constipation), 2 ASD non-verbal and 6 months (very

happy

> and very healthy since Mom got a clue and stopped vaccinating!)

>

[Guest guest]

What if you donot have diarrhea before the SCD, do you still need the intro

diet? My kids have loose BMs, they are formed and one per day.

Any views, suggestions. We have been on SCD for one month.

Tara

Re: Back to Intro questions

When we did the intro, we only used fresh pressed garlic. No other

spices. We did this for 10 days since are intestines where KNOWN to

be so damaged that we trusted no other. It was not fun doing this

for so long. But we are now reaping the benifits. We killed many

bad gut guys that week plus. IT is personal choice how long you

want to do this. Dr. Haas and Elaine say when the diarrhea

ends...but you said you have no more diarrhea. So it is up to you.

Remember that what the body can not digest still can do harm. We

still can not eat dry SCD cooked beans, and whole nuts, and things

that are hard to digest. They cause gas and fermentation

still...with KiKI diarrhea come back.

And then we repopulated the gut with that wonderful 24 hour SCD

yogurt and SCD acidolphilus. A yogurt of some kind will be needed.

Remember that the casein is rendered harmless in a 24 hour batch of

SCD yogurt. WE too where casein free...doing fine with this. YEAH!@!

We also had success doing what Elaine said and using less honey

cutting it down to 1/3. I wouldn't suggest cutting it completely

out if you have a " skinny " problem like we did. This helped to

reassure that our kids where getting enough carbohydrate. KiKI

could not afford to loose anymore weight. She showed no ill signs

from this. Her DIE OFF WAS STILL HUGE even with a treat of honey.

We told our son (since he likes variety too) that this is what the

doctor ordered. When he would complain, we had it lined up for one

of my friends to talk to him on the phone, as the " doctor " , telling

him that he needed to do this so his gut would heal. THis helped

him to comply better. He stopped complaining because he didn't want

to talk to the " doctor " .

His " pot belly " is gone for the first time since he was THREE MONTHS

OLD. He is no longer FERMENTING undigested food and bad gut guys!

Beware of Die off, if you have it. Also remember Acitvated Charcoal

works well if signs of die off come.

Antoinette (Much success with fanatical adherance to the SCDiet 2+

months entire family of five)

>

> We are going back to square one here and I wondered a couple of

things:

>

> 1. What spices can I use or do you suggest to season intro meats

with?

> My son does not like bland (my other son does), so any ideas that

are

> legal for seasonings for turkey, chicken and the chicken soup are

> appreciated.

>

> 2. Also, am I NOT using honey on the intro for like the homemade

> jello, etc?

>

> 3. Is 3 days between new foods long enough usually or should I

wait

> longer? Our diarrhea has been gone since going from GFCF to GFCFSF

and

> sugar free.

>

> Ok, I think that's it!?! I would appreciate anyone else's

suggestions

> about intro menu items as I know this will get old with him QUICK!

He

> is variety kind of dude.

>

> Thanks,

> Laurie` IBS/ gall bladder; mom to Ally 10, Chase 3 (chronic

> constipation), 2 ASD non-verbal and 6 months (very

happy

> and very healthy since Mom got a clue and stopped vaccinating!)

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Hi, my son never had diarrhea. The first time we started the diet (about a

year ago), we only did the intro for about a day and adding things quickly.

We saw some reactions and it was really difficult to figure out what was

causing it. (we did see a lot of progress regardless. The reactions were red

face and specific behavioral issues). A couple of months ago (after going

off the diet a few months), we did the intro again and for real this time.

He had solid poops after 3 days! I too asked the same question as you.but I

would really recommend the intro for at least 2 days to give their bodies a

rest. Then add foods one at a time and see how they react.

You can try the diet without the intro and go back to it later if you want.

Most people do go back to the intro at some point. HTH!

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Tara

Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:26 AM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Re: Back to Intro questions

What if you donot have diarrhea before the SCD, do you still need the intro

diet? My kids have loose BMs, they are formed and one per day.

Any views, suggestions. We have been on SCD for one month.

Tara

Re: Back to Intro questions

When we did the intro, we only used fresh pressed garlic. No other

spices. We did this for 10 days since are intestines where KNOWN to

be so damaged that we trusted no other. It was not fun doing this

for so long. But we are now reaping the benifits. We killed many

bad gut guys that week plus. IT is personal choice how long you

want to do this. Dr. Haas and Elaine say when the diarrhea

ends...but you said you have no more diarrhea. So it is up to you.

Remember that what the body can not digest still can do harm. We

still can not eat dry SCD cooked beans, and whole nuts, and things

that are hard to digest. They cause gas and fermentation

still...with KiKI diarrhea come back.

And then we repopulated the gut with that wonderful 24 hour SCD

yogurt and SCD acidolphilus. A yogurt of some kind will be needed.

Remember that the casein is rendered harmless in a 24 hour batch of

SCD yogurt. WE too where casein free...doing fine with this. YEAH!@!

We also had success doing what Elaine said and using less honey

cutting it down to 1/3. I wouldn't suggest cutting it completely

out if you have a " skinny " problem like we did. This helped to

reassure that our kids where getting enough carbohydrate. KiKI

could not afford to loose anymore weight. She showed no ill signs

from this. Her DIE OFF WAS STILL HUGE even with a treat of honey.

We told our son (since he likes variety too) that this is what the

doctor ordered. When he would complain, we had it lined up for one

of my friends to talk to him on the phone, as the " doctor " , telling

him that he needed to do this so his gut would heal. THis helped

him to comply better. He stopped complaining because he didn't want

to talk to the " doctor " .

His " pot belly " is gone for the first time since he was THREE MONTHS

OLD. He is no longer FERMENTING undigested food and bad gut guys!

Beware of Die off, if you have it. Also remember Acitvated Charcoal

works well if signs of die off come.

Antoinette (Much success with fanatical adherance to the SCDiet 2+

months entire family of five)

>

> We are going back to square one here and I wondered a couple of

things:

>

> 1. What spices can I use or do you suggest to season intro meats

with?

> My son does not like bland (my other son does), so any ideas that

are

> legal for seasonings for turkey, chicken and the chicken soup are

> appreciated.

>

> 2. Also, am I NOT using honey on the intro for like the homemade

> jello, etc?

>

> 3. Is 3 days between new foods long enough usually or should I

wait

> longer? Our diarrhea has been gone since going from GFCF to GFCFSF

and

> sugar free.

>

> Ok, I think that's it!?! I would appreciate anyone else's

suggestions

> about intro menu items as I know this will get old with him QUICK!

He

> is variety kind of dude.

>

> Thanks,

> Laurie` IBS/ gall bladder; mom to Ally 10, Chase 3 (chronic

> constipation), 2 ASD non-verbal and 6 months (very

happy

> and very healthy since Mom got a clue and stopped vaccinating!)

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

My son was this way. He was lucky. His sister battled that

horrible (celiac crises) diarrhea. His poops where always firm...or

just thick and one a day.

This is what we did. We still respected the easier to digest foods

and did not feed him anything such as raw carrots, apple or fruit

peels, onions, beans or nuts that would be hard to digest and

continue the vicious cycle because they might sit in the gut and

ferment and feed the bad guys. We still do not take no chances with

hard to digest foods. We are not ready yet.

We took it slow...and still are going slow. 2+ months and will not

be adding the above untill 6 months out. See stages on the Pecan

Bread Web site...this has been helpful to our success. We use it as

a Guide line.

Hope this helps, Antoinette

> >

> > We are going back to square one here and I wondered a couple

of

> things:

> >

> > 1. What spices can I use or do you suggest to season intro

meats

> with?

> > My son does not like bland (my other son does), so any ideas

that

> are

> > legal for seasonings for turkey, chicken and the chicken soup

are

> > appreciated.

> >

> > 2. Also, am I NOT using honey on the intro for like the

homemade

> > jello, etc?

> >

> > 3. Is 3 days between new foods long enough usually or should I

> wait

> > longer? Our diarrhea has been gone since going from GFCF to

GFCFSF

> and

> > sugar free.

> >

> > Ok, I think that's it!?! I would appreciate anyone else's

> suggestions

> > about intro menu items as I know this will get old with him

QUICK!

> He

> > is variety kind of dude.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Laurie` IBS/ gall bladder; mom to Ally 10, Chase 3 (chronic

> > constipation), 2 ASD non-verbal and 6 months

(very

> happy

> > and very healthy since Mom got a clue and stopped vaccinating!)

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

tara,

my son also had loose BMS once per day. formed but often skinny, and

on the soft side. big difference between him and his brother with the

constipation, and dry hard stool.

he too had an overgrowth of something and i think i had lost sight of

what was a healthy normal stool. now he has formed stool with a decent

width and a length of about 2 " - 7 " . now that we have been scd for 2

yrs i am seeing this consistantly. it amazes me what i didnt

understand about the stool shape consistency for along time. most

people talk about diarhea and constipation but there is plenty of us

with kids who have something in between that is not a good solid stool

(indicative of good working intestine and absorbtion).

the intro diet with a slow adding of foods based on recommended phases

at www.pecanbread.com is what i think all of us should do when we

start the scd. the fact is that you want to clear out all the

unwanted and undigested junk from the intestines before you start

adding foods one at a time. that is the only way to see if the new

food added is a safe digestable food for that intestine. if you add it

to a mixture of undigested foods in there, it wont give you the same

indication if there is a problem with a new food.

donna

>

> What if you donot have diarrhea before the SCD, do you still need

the intro diet? My kids have loose BMs, they are formed and one per

day.

>

> Any views, suggestions. We have been on SCD for one month.

>

> Tara