Re: Re:Probiotics/ Hyperactivity--- Jody/Summer/All

May 14, 2006

Some may have to disagree with Elaine regarding the non use of bifidus... is

there a way to tell if our kids have enough bifidus?... will a CDSA tell?... it

seems like my son may need some... I'm going to have to 'retool'/restart this

summer.

Agape,

kikijabunce wrote:

I am reading GAPS too. Wonderful book by the way. What I have

learned from much research. Dr. Haas book, Elaine's, GAPS and

countless others is that BIFIDUS strains although in normal numbers

are benifitual...if the vicious cycle starts this should not be one

of the probiotics given....cuased pathology and problems. Check

BTVC book to learn more. In high numbers the good guys become " bad

guys " and it is a balancing act to get them back into check.

Antifungals and enzymes from what I now understand can even cause

this balancing act to take longer to happen. Implimenting with diet

is the best option for some.

Antoinette

> Hi Molly I can relate. My son, who never has a lack of energy

is off

> the charts with any type of probiotics. I gave up trying to

introduce

> the yogurts [nut based] and have switched to the non-dairly

probiotic

> SCdophillus...i found that even giving him the tiniest amount

possible

> out of the capsule, it made him hyper, so i am trying to give it

after

> supper, as it seems to take an few hours or so to 'hit' him. So

far it

> hasn't affected his sleep, and goodness knows he couldn't possibly

get

> up any earlier anyway! Aside from the probiotics and the obvious

> connection to hyperness, the miniscule amount of probiotic and its

> bowel affect seems to make him feel a bit on edge, or not quite

> himself....die off, i am sure. So i am trying to persevere with

the

> smallest amount that he can tolerate, with minimal side effects.

> I know how frustrating it is to have a kid whose body/mind won't

be

> still enough to even do the things they want to do never mind the

> things we want them to!

> Good luck! and by the way, i've learned to always trust those

> instincts too.

>

> Cindy, IBS, SCD 11 months

> Brady, 5, ASD, CP, SCD 11 months

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the

book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

May 15, 2006

This sounds wise to me. The two most numerous beneficial gut flora are

acidolphilus and bifidus...

antbiotics, stress, steroids and other factors have kept his good gut flora

from residence... My son has been on antibiotics, rotating 4 kinds to kill off

Lyme's for the past year, and on prednisolone for the past 9 months...He just

came off all that this month...

My gut (:-)) is telling me he needs a full spectrum of gut flora.

Agape,

Gertrude Snicklegrove wrote:

I can't answer your question about which test for bifidus, but I can tell you

my personal opinion regarding Bifidus. For one, it is part of the normal

intestinal flora. It is passed onto young ones in breast milk. For people like

myself who could not breastfeed, I hardly think overgrowing Bifidus is a

problem.

The problem is gut damage that leads to overgrowing Bifidus, if not the

Bifidus, over growing yeast, clostridia, and so and and so forth. I do not

believe there is anything wrong with Bifidus itself. For those few people this

might be a problem for, not consuming it would be an excellent idea.

I think SCD, starting with intro, where these things are excluded for a bit is

a first rate idea, one borrowed from many ancient healing systems. Elimination,

then reintroduction. There are trillions of organisms in our intestines. There

are those who do have overgrowth, whether by yeast, bifidus, something else, and

upon a slow and careful reintroduction, this may be felt out.

Summer

davis wrote: