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In a message dated 7/31/00 7:24:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

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<< I haven't ready all the posts from the weekend, but I understand Dr.

R's becoming very overwhelmed...

If the surgery is self-pay, can it be taken as a tax deduction?

Also, anyone have an idea what a good " average " cost would be?

Thanks much

Waunakee, WI

>>

Even if your insurance pays the bulk, all expenses that you incur, to include

travel, are tax deductible--you just need to get to a pretty big dollar

amount, generally.

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

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In a message dated 7/31/00 7:24:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

sosweet52@... writes:

<< I haven't ready all the posts from the weekend, but I understand Dr.

R's becoming very overwhelmed...

If the surgery is self-pay, can it be taken as a tax deduction?

Also, anyone have an idea what a good " average " cost would be?

Thanks much

Waunakee, WI

>>

Even if your insurance pays the bulk, all expenses that you incur, to include

travel, are tax deductible--you just need to get to a pretty big dollar

amount, generally.

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

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In a message dated 7/31/00 7:42:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

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<< , there's lots of information on the cost on Dr. R's website. I

believe it's about $12,000

but if it was done at the Ambulatory Clinic that would reduce it

another 3-4 thousand.

Flo who's melting in land

>>

Hi Flo,

Is this actually the case? I know that a " deposit " of $11,000 is required at

the hospital, but I thought that a refund is most always given-- usually in

the area of 2-3 thousand. No? I also wonder what does if the costs go

over--or do they really have a flat fee? (Wouldn't that be refreshing?)

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

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, there's lots of information on the cost on Dr. R's website. I believe

it's about $12,000

but if it was done at the Ambulatory Clinic that would reduce it another

3-4 thousand.

Flo who's melting in land

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> ** Original Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:18:58 -0400

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>

> I haven't ready all the posts from the weekend, but I understand Dr.

> R's becoming very overwhelmed...

>

>

> If the surgery is self-pay, can it be taken as a tax deduction?

>

> Also, anyone have an idea what a good " average " cost would be?

>

> Thanks much

>

>

>

> Waunakee, WI

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 7/31/00 1:04:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

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<< Deb, Dr. R posted that their fee was $7,000...I would assume you would

have to put that up

front but I sure don't know for sure. He has only done one surgery there so

if he's going to

take some patients there, I'm sure he'll get all the info. You might want to

email him and ask

him if you're going to be self pay.

Flo

>>

Hi Flo,

Funny thing, you must be reading my mind - lol - I spoke to Barbara about

that very thing today, since I am (hopefully) going on the 10th, which just

happens to be a Thursday. She said that he will only do the " most healthy "

patients there. I guess I will find out soon if I qualify as one!

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

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---For an average read post " COSTS " # 38884 from today. and yes for

tax deduction.

" COSTS "

In MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com, DebLaMan@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/31/00 7:24:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> sosweet52@h... writes:

>

> << I haven't ready all the posts from the weekend, but I understand

Dr.

> R's becoming very overwhelmed...

>

>

> If the surgery is self-pay, can it be taken as a tax deduction?

>

> Also, anyone have an idea what a good " average " cost would be?

>

> Thanks much

>

>

>

> Waunakee, WI

>

>

> >>

> Even if your insurance pays the bulk, all expenses that you incur,

to include

> travel, are tax deductible--you just need to get to a pretty big

dollar

> amount, generally.

>

> Regards,

> Debbie in IL

> Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

> Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

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---For an average read post " COSTS " # 38884 from today. and yes for

tax deduction.

" COSTS "

In MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com, DebLaMan@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/31/00 7:24:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> sosweet52@h... writes:

>

> << I haven't ready all the posts from the weekend, but I understand

Dr.

> R's becoming very overwhelmed...

>

>

> If the surgery is self-pay, can it be taken as a tax deduction?

>

> Also, anyone have an idea what a good " average " cost would be?

>

> Thanks much

>

>

>

> Waunakee, WI

>

>

> >>

> Even if your insurance pays the bulk, all expenses that you incur,

to include

> travel, are tax deductible--you just need to get to a pretty big

dollar

> amount, generally.

>

> Regards,

> Debbie in IL

> Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

> Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

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Deb, Dr. R posted that their fee was $7,000...I would assume you would have to

put that up

front but I sure don't know for sure. He has only done one surgery there so if

he's going to

take some patients there, I'm sure he'll get all the info. You might want to

email him and ask

him if you're going to be self pay.

Flo

> ** Original Subject: RE: Change is a comin...

> **

> ** Original Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:28:32 -0400

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> In a message dated 7/31/00 7:42:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> florence@... writes:

>

> << , there's lots of information on the cost on Dr. R's website. I

> believe it's about $12,000

> but if it was done at the Ambulatory Clinic that would reduce it

> another 3-4 thousand.

>

> Flo who's melting in land

> >>

> Hi Flo,

> Is this actually the case? I know that a " deposit " of $11,000 is required at

> the hospital, but I thought that a refund is most always given-- usually in

> the area of 2-3 thousand. No? I also wonder what does if the costs go

> over--or do they really have a flat fee? (Wouldn't that be refreshing?)

>

> Regards,

> Debbie in IL

> Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

> Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

>

> Regards,

> Debbie in IL

> Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

> Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

>

>

>

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In a message dated 7/31/2000 7:58:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

bardell@... writes:

<< I am scheduled as self-pay for the 10th at Surgical Center. >>

Good Luck Tricia!!!!!!! Let us know what the new place is like. If I wind up

having to self pay I would be interested in going there. Were there any

special requirements to be eligible to have it there other than it being on

Thursday? thanks for any info you could share!!!

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

5' 0 "

216.5 Lbs.

BMI 42

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Flo, you are correct...the fee is $7,000, you have to pay up front...the

good news is they take plastic!! Then anesthetic bill must be

prepaid...$600 and of course, the good Doc's fee.

I am scheduled as self-pay for the 10th at Surgical Center. I am

still hopeful that my hubby's employer is going to approve me, and if

they don't I'll still hound them post-op! We decided to not wait any

longer, so we are flipping up the couch cushions and digging deep for

all the change we can get!!

Tricia in IL

MGB 8/10

florence@... wrote:

>

> Deb, Dr. R posted that their fee was $7,000...I would assume you would

> have to put that up

> front but I sure don't know for sure. He has only done one surgery

> there so if he's going to

> take some patients there, I'm sure he'll get all the info. You might

> want to email him and ask

> him if you're going to be self pay.

>

> Flo

>

> > ** Original Subject: RE: Change is a comin...

> > **

> > ** Original Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:28:32 -0400

>

> > ** Original Message follows...

>

> >

> > In a message dated 7/31/00 7:42:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > florence@... writes:

> >

> > << , there's lots of information on the cost on Dr. R's

> website. I

> > believe it's about $12,000

> > but if it was done at the Ambulatory Clinic that would reduce

> it

> > another 3-4 thousand.

> >

> > Flo who's melting in land

> > >>

> > Hi Flo,

> > Is this actually the case? I know that a " deposit " of $11,000 is

> required at

> > the hospital, but I thought that a refund is most always given--

> usually in

> > the area of 2-3 thousand. No? I also wonder what does if the

> costs go

> > over--or do they really have a flat fee? (Wouldn't that be

> refreshing?)

> >

> > Regards,

> > Debbie in IL

> > Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

> > Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

> >

> > Regards,

> > Debbie in IL

> > Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

> > Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

> >

> >

> >

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> I haven't ready all the posts from the weekend, but I understand Dr.

> R's becoming very overwhelmed...

>

> If the surgery is self-pay, can it be taken as a tax deduction?

>

> Also, anyone have an idea what a good " average " cost would be?

>

> Thanks much

>

>

> Waunakee, WI

>

>

>

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At this point---$3400-20% for Dr. R. $11,000 to hospital up front. If

you leave early and have no complications you will get $$$back-20%. I

will be getting $2800 back. Hotel gas and food are extra. We spent

about $600 but we came from the upper peninsula of Michigan. 1150 miles.

Dena Lawton355/328 July 12thMGB

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Hi,

>

> << I am scheduled as self-pay for the 10th at Surgical Center. >>

>

IMPORTANT Note!

The fee at the surgical center is a " Flat Fee. " ($7.000.00)

What that means is your a guaranteed that price.

The Hospital self pay fee ($11,000.00) is not a " Flat Fee " it is a " down

payment/deposit/earnest money " and you are at risk of getting a bigger bill

as well as the usual expectation of a smaller bill and a refund than the

deposit.

I will wait and let this sink in...

RR

Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S.

The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery

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> In a message dated 7/31/2000 7:58:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> bardell@... writes:

>

> << I am scheduled as self-pay for the 10th at Surgical Center. >>

>

> Good Luck Tricia!!!!!!! Let us know what the new place is like. If I wind

up

> having to self pay I would be interested in going there. Were there any

> special requirements to be eligible to have it there other than it being

on

> Thursday? thanks for any info you could share!!!

>

> Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> 5' 0 "

> 216.5 Lbs.

> BMI 42

> A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

>

>

>

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In a message dated 8/1/2000 6:21:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Dr_Rutledge@... writes:

<< The fee at the surgical center is a " Flat Fee. " ($7.000.00)

>>

Dr. R are you saying this is a flat rate, even if there were to be a

complication you wouldn't be charged more?

Cathy Morrow in Lenoir, NC

5' 0 "

216.5 Lbs.

BMI 42

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