Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hoping someone out there can hep me with these beginners' questions... After months of consideration and weeks of delay, DH & I have finally decided that both the kids are going on the SCD as of this coming weekend. DD (3 years, 3 months) has autism with several markers for severe yeast overgrowth, leaky gut syndrome (52 IgG/IgE food allergies), amino acid imbalances, nutritional imbalances...too much to list. I am positive that she needs SCD and am hopeful that it will be a turning point in improving her health. She's been GFCF since last September and had initial improvement but has hit a plateau. DS (9 months) is showing early signs of problems and had 4+ level of Klebsiella pneumoniae on his CDSA, so I figure he's got gut dysbiosis too and might as well start off on SCD. I was just hoping to get some advice on a few things. 1) I'd love it if anyone could point me toward nut-free and egg-free recipes for healthy muffins, waffles, cakes, etc...anything that resembles some kind of baked goods. I am having a real problem with this; all recipes I can find contain nuts or eggs or both. I ordered the cookbook recommended on pecanbread but it has not arrived yet. (She had very high allergic responses to nuts and eggs in her blood tests; I may try to introduce them after she's been on SCD for several months but I want to continue to avoid them for now.) 2) Any recommendations for lunchbox-friendly items that are nut and egg-free? (Especially intro-diet-friendly, because I'm anticipating we may need to be on that several days.) I've been sending DD to preschool with GFCF sandwiches. The bread is obviously going to be illegal when we start SCD and I doubt an SCD-safe nutfree, eggfree bread exists. I was going to try sending the chicken soup from BTVC in a thermos, but she hates it and will not eat it. My next thought was maybe homemade jerkey strips with SCD ketchup to dip??? I have no other ideas. She is a picky eater and requires a great deal of coaxing to try to new foods. 3) Because of her health issues, DD needs a couple of different supplements (mostly different amino acids, which I'm checking to be sure are SCD safe). We have yet to find a good way to get these into her, and the recommendations I thought sounded most promising (adding them to melted chocolate and then chilling it) will not work on SCD. Any recommendations for how to deliver necessary but bad-tasting supplements? We've tried fruit smoothies, mixing with juice, etc. and she is just spitting them back at us and throwing a fit. 4) If I'm going to continue to breastfeed DS (and DD occasionally...she is still not weaned), is it important that I adopt the SCD diet too? Thanks for any advice... --Krissi 2 kids with dysbiosis, preparing to start SCD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Here are things I'd consider if I found myself in your situation... Get Dr. Natasha -McBride's book " Gut and Psychology Syndrome. " Very helpful. A phone consult with Dr. Natasha, actually two consults, one for each of your children. Cost is surprisingly low. But if you're making an international phone call, shop for low rates! (We paid more for the phone call than for Dr. Natasha's time!) Dr. Natasha will tell you to wean your oldest because of casein and lactose in breastmilk. She's pro-breastfeeding but asserts " Children don't need to be breastfed after 12 months of age. " I would continue breastfeeding if I thought best, but give Houston Zyme Prime and Houston AFP Peptizyde enzymes with each nursing to digest lactose and casein. (Dr. Natasha won't think this will be effective...but many parents are using the Houston enzymes as a substitute for GFCF diet and people say it's working...) I would work hard with probiotics and other things reco'd by Dr. Natasha to improve DS's gut flora BEFORE introducing any non-breastmilk foods. If I'd already started non-breastmilk foods, I'd consider dropping all those foods and just nursing heavily til gut flora was much improved. Then slowly and carefully introduce only SCD-legal foods. I wouldn't wean until I felt the time was right. I'd consider starting Houston enzymes (as above) with nursings now, to help insure casein and lactose didn't contribute to problems. I few weeks ago I posted " Kayla's menus and recipes " or maybe it was " Kayla's recipes and menus " . Find it in the archives. Look for " Fluffy Soup " . We started out with Fluffy Soup made from zucchini and crockpot chicken broth, with a little seasalt. My extremely picky eater loved this Fluffy Soup and as explained in that post of mine, it was my way of introducing many new foods, and getting many supps down painlessly. Children are picky eaters because food makes them sick because they can't digest it right. When you get your daughter's gut healing on a diet of foods she can actually digest well, she'll be much more willing to eat, try new foods, etc. I couldn't believe how quickly my child converted from picky eater to eagerly trying new foods, on Dr. Natasha's version of SCD. We started out with only 8 or 10 foods and within a few months she was eating about 50 foods eagerly...including many vegies (broccoli, cauliflower, kale, etc.), liver, etc., etc. (Pre-SCD the only vegies she would eat were the soft center section of zucchini where the seeds are [cooked] and a few tiny bites of spinach [raw only]. All other vegies I'd tried had been " failures " .) Dr. Natasha recommends ABA as a way of getting kids eating " right " . I think this is realistic only if child is well established on an ABA program and parents are well trained in ABA and comfortable with it. ABA was never a good fit for my child and me. I just did Dr. Natasha's anti-diarrhea diet (not explained in her book, BTW; but you can find it in recent posts) and added foods to Fluffy Soup til my daughter felt well enough to start mooching foods off my dinner plate! From there it was easy and soon this non-eating child would open her mouth eagerly when I said " I have a new food for you to try! " (Almost fainted the first time she did that!) Good luck to you! Kayla > some beginners questions, need nutfree and eggfree > recipes > > > Hoping someone out there can hep me with these beginners' questions... > > After months of consideration and weeks of delay, DH & I have finally > decided that both the kids are going on the SCD as of this coming > weekend. DD (3 years, 3 months) has autism with several markers for > severe yeast overgrowth, leaky gut syndrome (52 IgG/IgE food allergies), > amino acid imbalances, nutritional imbalances...too much to list. I am > positive that she needs SCD and am hopeful that it will be a turning > point in improving her health. She's been GFCF since last September and > had initial improvement but has hit a plateau. DS (9 months) is showing > early signs of problems and had 4+ level of Klebsiella pneumoniae on his > CDSA, so I figure he's got gut dysbiosis too and might as well start off > on SCD. > > I was just hoping to get some advice on a few things. > > 1) I'd love it if anyone could point me toward nut-free and egg-free > recipes for healthy muffins, waffles, cakes, etc...anything that > resembles some kind of baked goods. I am having a real problem with > this; all recipes I can find contain nuts or eggs or both. I ordered the > cookbook recommended on pecanbread but it has not arrived yet. (She had > very high allergic responses to nuts and eggs in her blood tests; I may > try to introduce them after she's been on SCD for several months but I > want to continue to avoid them for now.) > > 2) Any recommendations for lunchbox-friendly items that are nut and > egg-free? (Especially intro-diet-friendly, because I'm anticipating we > may need to be on that several days.) I've been sending DD to preschool > with GFCF sandwiches. The bread is obviously going to be illegal when we > start SCD and I doubt an SCD-safe nutfree, eggfree bread exists. I was > going to try sending the chicken soup from BTVC in a thermos, but she > hates it and will not eat it. My next thought was maybe homemade jerkey > strips with SCD ketchup to dip??? I have no other ideas. She is a picky > eater and requires a great deal of coaxing to try to new foods. > > 3) Because of her health issues, DD needs a couple of different > supplements (mostly different amino acids, which I'm checking to be sure > are SCD safe). We have yet to find a good way to get these into her, and > the recommendations I thought sounded most promising (adding them to > melted chocolate and then chilling it) will not work on SCD. Any > recommendations for how to deliver necessary but bad-tasting > supplements? We've tried fruit smoothies, mixing with juice, etc. and > she is just spitting them back at us and throwing a fit. > > 4) If I'm going to continue to breastfeed DS (and DD occasionally...she > is still not weaned), is it important that I adopt the SCD diet too? > > Thanks for any advice... > --Krissi > 2 kids with dysbiosis, preparing to start SCD > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read > the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and > read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Here are things I'd consider if I found myself in your situation... Get Dr. Natasha -McBride's book " Gut and Psychology Syndrome. " Very helpful. A phone consult with Dr. Natasha, actually two consults, one for each of your children. Cost is surprisingly low. But if you're making an international phone call, shop for low rates! (We paid more for the phone call than for Dr. Natasha's time!) Dr. Natasha will tell you to wean your oldest because of casein and lactose in breastmilk. She's pro-breastfeeding but asserts " Children don't need to be breastfed after 12 months of age. " I would continue breastfeeding if I thought best, but give Houston Zyme Prime and Houston AFP Peptizyde enzymes with each nursing to digest lactose and casein. (Dr. Natasha won't think this will be effective...but many parents are using the Houston enzymes as a substitute for GFCF diet and people say it's working...) I would work hard with probiotics and other things reco'd by Dr. Natasha to improve DS's gut flora BEFORE introducing any non-breastmilk foods. If I'd already started non-breastmilk foods, I'd consider dropping all those foods and just nursing heavily til gut flora was much improved. Then slowly and carefully introduce only SCD-legal foods. I wouldn't wean until I felt the time was right. I'd consider starting Houston enzymes (as above) with nursings now, to help insure casein and lactose didn't contribute to problems. I few weeks ago I posted " Kayla's menus and recipes " or maybe it was " Kayla's recipes and menus " . Find it in the archives. Look for " Fluffy Soup " . We started out with Fluffy Soup made from zucchini and crockpot chicken broth, with a little seasalt. My extremely picky eater loved this Fluffy Soup and as explained in that post of mine, it was my way of introducing many new foods, and getting many supps down painlessly. Children are picky eaters because food makes them sick because they can't digest it right. When you get your daughter's gut healing on a diet of foods she can actually digest well, she'll be much more willing to eat, try new foods, etc. I couldn't believe how quickly my child converted from picky eater to eagerly trying new foods, on Dr. Natasha's version of SCD. We started out with only 8 or 10 foods and within a few months she was eating about 50 foods eagerly...including many vegies (broccoli, cauliflower, kale, etc.), liver, etc., etc. (Pre-SCD the only vegies she would eat were the soft center section of zucchini where the seeds are [cooked] and a few tiny bites of spinach [raw only]. All other vegies I'd tried had been " failures " .) Dr. Natasha recommends ABA as a way of getting kids eating " right " . I think this is realistic only if child is well established on an ABA program and parents are well trained in ABA and comfortable with it. ABA was never a good fit for my child and me. I just did Dr. Natasha's anti-diarrhea diet (not explained in her book, BTW; but you can find it in recent posts) and added foods to Fluffy Soup til my daughter felt well enough to start mooching foods off my dinner plate! From there it was easy and soon this non-eating child would open her mouth eagerly when I said " I have a new food for you to try! " (Almost fainted the first time she did that!) Good luck to you! Kayla > some beginners questions, need nutfree and eggfree > recipes > > > Hoping someone out there can hep me with these beginners' questions... > > After months of consideration and weeks of delay, DH & I have finally > decided that both the kids are going on the SCD as of this coming > weekend. DD (3 years, 3 months) has autism with several markers for > severe yeast overgrowth, leaky gut syndrome (52 IgG/IgE food allergies), > amino acid imbalances, nutritional imbalances...too much to list. I am > positive that she needs SCD and am hopeful that it will be a turning > point in improving her health. She's been GFCF since last September and > had initial improvement but has hit a plateau. DS (9 months) is showing > early signs of problems and had 4+ level of Klebsiella pneumoniae on his > CDSA, so I figure he's got gut dysbiosis too and might as well start off > on SCD. > > I was just hoping to get some advice on a few things. > > 1) I'd love it if anyone could point me toward nut-free and egg-free > recipes for healthy muffins, waffles, cakes, etc...anything that > resembles some kind of baked goods. I am having a real problem with > this; all recipes I can find contain nuts or eggs or both. I ordered the > cookbook recommended on pecanbread but it has not arrived yet. (She had > very high allergic responses to nuts and eggs in her blood tests; I may > try to introduce them after she's been on SCD for several months but I > want to continue to avoid them for now.) > > 2) Any recommendations for lunchbox-friendly items that are nut and > egg-free? (Especially intro-diet-friendly, because I'm anticipating we > may need to be on that several days.) I've been sending DD to preschool > with GFCF sandwiches. The bread is obviously going to be illegal when we > start SCD and I doubt an SCD-safe nutfree, eggfree bread exists. I was > going to try sending the chicken soup from BTVC in a thermos, but she > hates it and will not eat it. My next thought was maybe homemade jerkey > strips with SCD ketchup to dip??? I have no other ideas. She is a picky > eater and requires a great deal of coaxing to try to new foods. > > 3) Because of her health issues, DD needs a couple of different > supplements (mostly different amino acids, which I'm checking to be sure > are SCD safe). We have yet to find a good way to get these into her, and > the recommendations I thought sounded most promising (adding them to > melted chocolate and then chilling it) will not work on SCD. Any > recommendations for how to deliver necessary but bad-tasting > supplements? We've tried fruit smoothies, mixing with juice, etc. and > she is just spitting them back at us and throwing a fit. > > 4) If I'm going to continue to breastfeed DS (and DD occasionally...she > is still not weaned), is it important that I adopt the SCD diet too? > > Thanks for any advice... > --Krissi > 2 kids with dysbiosis, preparing to start SCD > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read > the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and > read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 www.digestivewellness.com has SCD legal products for all stages of the diet. Agape, " K. sson " wrote: Hoping someone out there can hep me with these beginners' questions... After months of consideration and weeks of delay, DH & I have finally decided that both the kids are going on the SCD as of this coming weekend. DD (3 years, 3 months) has autism with several markers for severe yeast overgrowth, leaky gut syndrome (52 IgG/IgE food allergies), amino acid imbalances, nutritional imbalances...too much to list. I am positive that she needs SCD and am hopeful that it will be a turning point in improving her health. She's been GFCF since last September and had initial improvement but has hit a plateau. DS (9 months) is showing early signs of problems and had 4+ level of Klebsiella pneumoniae on his CDSA, so I figure he's got gut dysbiosis too and might as well start off on SCD. I was just hoping to get some advice on a few things. 1) I'd love it if anyone could point me toward nut-free and egg-free recipes for healthy muffins, waffles, cakes, etc...anything that resembles some kind of baked goods. I am having a real problem with this; all recipes I can find contain nuts or eggs or both. I ordered the cookbook recommended on pecanbread but it has not arrived yet. (She had very high allergic responses to nuts and eggs in her blood tests; I may try to introduce them after she's been on SCD for several months but I want to continue to avoid them for now.) 2) Any recommendations for lunchbox-friendly items that are nut and egg-free? (Especially intro-diet-friendly, because I'm anticipating we may need to be on that several days.) I've been sending DD to preschool with GFCF sandwiches. The bread is obviously going to be illegal when we start SCD and I doubt an SCD-safe nutfree, eggfree bread exists. I was going to try sending the chicken soup from BTVC in a thermos, but she hates it and will not eat it. My next thought was maybe homemade jerkey strips with SCD ketchup to dip??? I have no other ideas. She is a picky eater and requires a great deal of coaxing to try to new foods. 3) Because of her health issues, DD needs a couple of different supplements (mostly different amino acids, which I'm checking to be sure are SCD safe). We have yet to find a good way to get these into her, and the recommendations I thought sounded most promising (adding them to melted chocolate and then chilling it) will not work on SCD. Any recommendations for how to deliver necessary but bad-tasting supplements? We've tried fruit smoothies, mixing with juice, etc. and she is just spitting them back at us and throwing a fit. 4) If I'm going to continue to breastfeed DS (and DD occasionally...she is still not weaned), is it important that I adopt the SCD diet too? Thanks for any advice... --Krissi 2 kids with dysbiosis, preparing to start SCD For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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